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Anyone else bored with SD?

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I dunno. I understand if this get merged, but let's look at what is going on:

It just seems like we have seen enough Orton vs Sheamus vs Christian in some form or another to last a lifetime.. And we are still getting a combination of the three since after Extreme Rules. And in my opinion, they haven't been good. Orton is a terrible face. Seeing Christian trying his damnest to get heat is awkward; but not as awkward as Sheamus on the mic. The matches themselves feel swappable at this point.. And probably are. Sheamus vs Orton main evented last night, not 3 weeks removed from the last time they main evented.

Mark Henry is a bad ass mother fucker, but what's gonna happen when he gets beat? Maybe that is why monster pushes never work longer than a few months.

Cody Rhodes is the only guy with a visible gimmick, but how many times are we going to help him prattle on about being ugly without really taking it out on someone else in a feud not just a series of matches?

Sin Cara's wow factor seems to have worn off. It's only been three months. Yikes.

Seemingly, the only guy that the commentators have talked up consistently isn't doing shit but jobbing (Wade Barrett) while the guy who bent him over for the last three months beating his "Where's Waldo?" impression (Big Zeke).

Who gives a fuck about the divas on the show? Or can name them for that matter.

Some new dude is on a squashing spree. In other news, today is in fact Saturday for America.


I know that historically, SD has been booked completely different than Raw. With a strong emphasis on rasstlin' matches. But it just seems like the people writing don't care. I understand a slow build and all, but not everything needs to be or should be stretch just to say it was a "slow build." The only program that is getting something other than "same match, different week," is the main event program and we see the ratings for that one.

To be honest, it feels the only thing that has changed since the main event became exclusive Orton vs Sheamus vs Christian has been The Usos. They went from who cares to "Wow, they are the Usos? Who would've guessed."


Am I the only one who has noticed this?
 
I like the way they have booked this 3 way feud, it's made every single competitor a believable champion and therefor any 3 of them can come out on top. Sheamus has been good, I don't think his mic work has been particularly awkward though far from spell binding, I think Christian has been doing well as a heel as he always does... I agree that Orton is sort of floundering though & I don't think he has contributed anything particularly good to the feud but he's the center of it all & allows two heels to feud.

Mark Henry has never been so entertaining to watch & whilst as with any monster push it'll only last for a finate amount of time but I see his feud with the Big Show having more legs then if it were a smaller guy. These 2 are unlikely to ever put on a classic but they can provide an entertaining mid card feud with genuine heat behind it. Plus it looks like Mark Henrys storyline is extending all the way to Teddy Long

I agree the Cody Rhodes skit could get tired fairly soon if isn't freshened up a bit but it looks like they may be doing that with Ted DiBiase, I expect some changes in this dynamic very soon & both characters or Rhodes may get that big push (say in MITB) which finally allows him to elevate the gimmick to greater and more extreme heights.

Sin Cara has lost me a bit, I agree there, but he has put on some pretty fucking good matches when paired correctly and I can see him being a key part to the MITB match next Sunday. I will give him a few months before I finally drop my verdict on the matter

Wade Barrett has been booked pretty poorly as of late, but he's getting time on stick and quite frankly that's the only way he can get heat at the moment. Nothing he does in the ring strikes me so he needs to spend as much time on the stick as possible before getting a real push in the ring.

The Usos Vs Heat Slater & Just Gabriel - Best tag team feud for ages

AJ from the Divas has a lot of potential and they appear to be testing the water with Kaitlyn (hasn't impressed me to be honest) and Tamina... Tamina and AJ have potential to be decent workers and could improve the divas division, just wish they used Natalyia better.

I see plenty of value in Smackdowns product, it rarely bombs like Raw does and it's usually a good program but rarely ventures into must see, unlike Raw.
 
Personally I'm stil enjoying Smackdown more than RAW.

The whole Christian/Orton/Sheamus thing is still interesting to me. More because I'm a huge fan and supporter of Christian and Orton than many other WWE Superstars possibly, but the feud is still making me tune into the show. Christian trying hard to get heat? I don't see that at all. I know that he's playing a heel and all that and that gaining as much heat as possible is his main objective, but the whole thing with him is, that the turn symbolized what a lot of fans were thinking when Orton gained the belt from Christian originally. He's a frustrated guy who after over a decade of trying had what he worked for taken away from him.

Gaining heat doesn't seem to be his main objective from a character standpoint, it seems that he just wants the World Heavyweight Championship. Then Randy as a face still, it isn't bad to me. He's showing way more... Personality, than he has over the last few years, and when you consider that he never really changed gimmick when he reverted back to a face, it's kind of uplifting.

Mark Henry; fine, I agree on that. I don't enjoy watching him at all. I've never been a fan of Mizzark since the end of the Nation, and when you consider that was back in '99, you can see that it's a long time to be irrelevant in anyones mind.

Cody Rhodes is actually impressing me as of late, and I started a thread over a month ago slamming his rapid rise through Smackdown. I think its better in the long-haul, he wasn't being given time to mature as a heel or as a star of the show. The thing between him and DiBiase interests me too, because it's obvious they're playing up until DiBiase blows and turns on Rhodes, much like Riley on Miz, to get over Ted as a face, and when you consider how Ted never really got over as a heel, the potential in him being a good face is intriguing.

Sin Cara is being used okay. I still like the guy, I like him more now more-so than when he first debuted; I knew more of his work as Mistico and didn't like certain aspects of him, but the way he's so over with the crowd makes me happy to watch him. I just hate his lighting.

Barrett is being used as a Jack Swagger; as a joke. The fact they had Sheamus beat him down with a chair over others was kind of odd to me, I don't see why they'd pick Barrett over everyone else. But still, that could all change of Barrett is given Money in the Bank, and doing so would make him interesting once more.

Smackdown is seemingly interesting some people in some ways. I still like the show, as I said, more than RAW, because more on Smackdown interests me. Christian vs. Orton is my favorite feud in years, Danielson is one of my favorite wrestlers period, love what they're doing with the Uso's and it gives tag teams credibility again and overall, it's just appealing more to different people I suppose.
 
It just seems like we have seen enough Orton vs Sheamus vs Christian in some form or another to last a lifetime.. And we are still getting a combination of the three since after Extreme Rules. And in my opinion, they haven't been good. Orton is a terrible face. Seeing Christian trying his damnest to get heat is awkward; but not as awkward as Sheamus on the mic. The matches themselves feel swappable at this point.. And probably are. Sheamus vs Orton main evented last night, not 3 weeks removed from the last time they main evented.
I'm tired of hearing people whine about this storyline. They took the only 3 guys who were actually in the spot to be in a championship rivalry and did what they could. We're coming up to a turning point, MITB, so just give it some time.

Mark Henry is a bad ass mother fucker, but what's gonna happen when he gets beat? Maybe that is why monster pushes never work longer than a few months.
Umm, he might just retire, since its a good time for him to do that. Maybe they're building him up to give someone the opportunity to take him on.

Cody Rhodes is the only guy with a visible gimmick, but how many times are we going to help him prattle on about being ugly without really taking it out on someone else in a feud not just a series of matches?
When Ted turns on him, plain and simple.
Sin Cara's wow factor seems to have worn off. It's only been three months. Yikes.
I'll give you that one. The guy messes up so much its a wonder how he had any wow factor to begin with,

Seemingly, the only guy that the commentators have talked up consistently isn't doing shit but jobbing (Wade Barrett) while the guy who bent him over for the last three months beating his "Where's Waldo?" impression (Big Zeke).
So Zeke's getting a push and Barretts doing what every heel eventually does, lose. I dont see the problem with that.

I think Smackdown is way better than RAW. They know how to utilize their superstars and thats why everyone from the midcard to the main event has some sort of storyline they're involved in. It amazes me how a brand that has so many high caliber superstars like RAW has only 1 main storyline (Punk/Cena).
 
If you don't like Smackdown then you don't like the actual wrestling aspect of WWE as much as you like storylines and long winded promos. Smackdown has repetition problems, but that's the same throughout the whole of WWE. It'd be nice if something worth talking about happened on the show occasional, a massive angle for example. But it's a wrestling show, as opposed to Raw the talk show, and it pretty much always delivers.

Personally I can handle multiple Orton vs. Sheamus matches if they're on TV. Its when I'm asked to pay to watch them on PPV that I get all uppity.
 
Not really. Sometimes, I like SmackDown! more than Raw. I think each show can generally provide something different because the major focus of each show rests on different things.

Raw is the show where all the major happenings take place. It's the WWE flagship show, it's on USA rather than Syfy, it's usually live as opposed to taped and it draws the larger audience. Because of all that, You'll see more general emphasis placed on promos on Raw than you will on SD!. Also, because of all that, it's where much of the buzz regarding storylines takes place. That's not to say that SD! doesn't have good promo segments, but due to certain circumstances that I just pointed out, they don't carry as much weight as Raw. SmackDown! is the show where you're almost guaranteed to get better wrestling matches. Again, that's not to say that Raw doesn't have good matches but you usually get more of them on SmackDown!

I've got no problems at all with the Orton, Sheamus & Christian feuds. All the matches have been superb, the promo work has been spot on, Christian has been elevated to a spot that he should've been in a long time ago, Randy Orton is doing arguably the best work he's done in years and Sheamus is back on track and is back in a spot where he deserves to be.
 
I've been digging Smackdown lately. In fact, my only gripe with it is that I never seem to be able to watch the whole thing for one reason or another!

Smackdown has it's short comings, yes, but part of the excitement of being a member of the IWC is trying to figure out how Smackdown is going to make up for them. They seem to have a lackluster midcard right now with dull and duller (Big Zeke and Wade Barrett) laying smack in the middle of it with very talented guys on either side of them (Cody Rhodes, Daniel Bryan, and Sin Cara on the upper midcard and Trent Barreta, The Usos, Tyson Kidd, and Jinder Mahal on the lower midcard). And with Money in the Bank coming up, it seems likely that one of those upper midcard guys will be making the jump to the main event, leaving a spot wide open for one of the exciting young wrestlers to move up.

Furthermore, the main event is blossoming into something special. Mark Henry is at his all time best, and it's anybody's guess as to who will finally stop the big man. The title picture is getting very exciting as we have three guys whom all really seem to be in prime position to be champion.

And above all else, the wrestling on the show has been spectacular. Orton, Christian, and Sheamus all have great chemistry with each other (Sheamus is one of the best workers in the WWE as far as I'm concerned), Sin Cara is still breathtaking, Cody Rhodes is phenomenal, Jinder Mahal shows a ton of promise, and The Usos of all people have been putting on some of the best matches I've seen all year.

So no, Smackdown still rules.
 
Smackdown is a good alternative for Raw, and I watch it periodically. I find it to be a good show for what it is. Solid entertainment mixed with great in-ring work. It doesn't have the atmosphere as Raw, or the pure entertainment value, but it is a show with solid wrestling and good superstars. I like the show for what it is, though Raw is admittedly better.
 
I wouldn't say I'm bored with Smackdown. Yes it does have its weaknesses but so does RAW. Smackdown has consistently given me solid wrestling matches to watch and enjoy which is something that RAW typically lack because the shows are usually focused more on promos and building up matches and PPVs. Obviously, RAW does have its own fair share of wrestling matches but I feel they pale in comparison to the wrestling I see on Smackdown. I've also always been interested in Smackdown due to the fact that it's usually used as a breeding ground of sorts for the younger talent to get their feet wet so to speak before going into the deeper oceans of RAW. I always enjoy that.

Although to be fair, I can understand where you're coming from because they can only go with Orton/Christian for so long. The matches they have are always good but it can get stale after awhile. But personally, I'm not bored with Smackdown.
 
It just seems like we have seen enough Orton vs Sheamus vs Christian in some form or another to last a lifetime.. And we are still getting a combination of the three since after Extreme Rules. And in my opinion, they haven't been good. Orton is a terrible face. Seeing Christian trying his damnest to get heat is awkward; but not as awkward as Sheamus on the mic. The matches themselves feel swappable at this point.. And probably are. Sheamus vs Orton main evented last night, not 3 weeks removed from the last time they main evented.

The matches have been great. Orton and Christian have put on the three or four best matches of the year, and the Orton/Sheamus matches have been better than they were a year ago.

However, the story is boring me. Why? Because there really isn't much a story. Christian is sick of losing, Orton hates when Christian complains, and Sheamus is sick of being overlooked. Not an ounce of creativity has been injected into this situation, and it bothers me. Smackdown's creative team stinks.

Mark Henry is a bad ass mother fucker, but what's gonna happen when he gets beat? Maybe that is why monster pushes never work longer than a few months.

I don't believe this is designed to last longer than a few months. Miz-Ark is 40 years old, and I doubt he'll be active much longer. Probably more of a farewell, and it's been quite entertaining.

Cody Rhodes is the only guy with a visible gimmick, but how many times are we going to help him prattle on about being ugly without really taking it out on someone else in a feud not just a series of matches?

Agreed. He has a character, which is more than most on Smackdown can say. However, it's repetitive. He cuts basically the same promo every week, and once again, that shows just how lazy/uncreative the writers are on SD.

Sin Cara's wow factor seems to have worn off. It's only been three months. Yikes.

Tends to happen when you do nothing besides flip into the ring, turn down the lights, and demonstrate how a few spots should be executed. They really haven't given anyone a reason to become emotionally invested in this character.

Seemingly, the only guy that the commentators have talked up consistently isn't doing shit but jobbing (Wade Barrett) while the guy who bent him over for the last three months beating his "Where's Waldo?" impression (Big Zeke).

Neither man has done anything worth remembering. Zeke has never done anything worth talking about, and it's been a long time since Wade has.

Some new dude is on a squashing spree. In other news, today is in fact Saturday for America.

Jinder? That story has lost most of its steam.

So, generally, I agree with you. I think Smackdown is the most redundant wrestling show going on, and it's getting old. Things heated up a bit when Orton moved over, and Christian turned heel. However, they've been running with the same shit for a couple of months now, and most of it is past its expiration date.
 
I like the wrestling on SD, but I think there is a bit of a weak spot when it comes to the faces. The drama comes from the conflict between a guy you want to have win battling a guy you want to have lose. it gives you a chance to suspend disbelief and mark out for somebody. SD needs some more compelling faces. So does Raw, actually.
 
FINALLY! The point has come up! I've been waiting to talk about this subject for a while now. Is SD getting boring? Hell yeah!
Let's see,

Wade Barrett vs Big Zeke- Awesome at first but now it's kind of gone phhhfftt.

Sin Cara/ Daniel Bryan vs Cody Rhodes/Ted Dibiase- *bangs head* ARGH. I'm so sick of hearing Cody whine! And of course the only way he WINS matches is by cheating with Ted's help (natural of a heel of course but still infuriating; admit it, you'd like to see a clean victory). And Sin? He made my heart race... for about five weeks. Daniel Bryan needs a better gimmick.

Christian vs Orton vs Sheamus- We've SEEN Orton vs Sheamus before and now we're adding a crazed Christian to the mix. UGH. Not a good mix and frankly easy to determine who'll win. In this type of feud the good guy always wins-- especially if he's serious and does a toe-touch in the middle of the ring.

But wait! We've got some wake up calls.

Big Show vs Mark Henry- WOWZA! Course it started with the old Show vs Del Rio but it has exploded into a battle of giants. Mark Henry has SNAPPED and it's bloody fun to watch him tackle Show and watch Show pound him down. Can't wait for their MitB match!

Slater/Gabriel vs Usos- This is a fangirls dream feud. Mostly because we've got four hotties rolling around in the ring. For everyone else this is a look-in at the future. We've got the Usos, identical twin who are on fire since coming to SD. They're fun to watch and have a lot of talent to spare. We've got Heath Slater and Justin Gabriel who first teamed up back in NXT. That was a foreshdow match on its own! They're 3 time tag-team champs, best friends (it's obvious to anyone who's paying attention), and ex-Nexus/Corre members. Within a YEAR they have jump-started the WWE and are definatly and keystone in the company's future.

And finally we have the back stage dweller, whom we've only heard stories about. I mean of course Johnny Curtis. GET THIS BOY IN THE FRIGGEN RING.

Now, if I'm the only who thinks this way I'll just shut up
 
Not at all. Besides the main event and Bi Show and Henry, it's really a look at the future (look at my sig) Sin Cara, Cody Rhodes, Wade Barett especially, and the best tag team wrestling WWE has to offer. So Smackdown is very entertaining and to me almost as much as Raw but Raw has the whole Punk/Cena feud.
 
I don't think Smackdown is boring at all. There are times, for me, when I enjoy watching it better than RAW. SD! has more wrestling on it and even though it is the "B" show, it is still very enjoyable sometimes.

On SD! there are 2 or 3 great feuds on SD! that make me want to tune into Smackdown every Friday.

Mark Henry on SD! is enjoyable to watch. Like in 2004-2006, Henry is an indestructible force again in the WWE. These past few weeks, we've seen him take out the Big Show by smashing him through a table to pushing him and Drew off stage, maybe hurting Drew too. He seems unpredictable right now and we never know when he'll snap during a match or when he might take someone out. During Orton or Show's matches, in the back of our heads, Henry should be there.

Another great feud that I like is the Bryan/Rhodes feud. Bryan and Rhodes do have great wrestling skills and whenever they have a match, it's great. Being the Rhodes fan that I am, I always think it's enjoyable to see a Bryan/Rhodes match and/or segment. I love Cody's baggers. Also, we have Ted Dibiase in the feud too. Now, some people think that Ted might betray Cody and turn face. It's always a possibility, but with his run with Cody right now, I think it's safe for him to stay heel and keep teaming with Cody.

Lastly, we have the feud with Orton and Christian. Christian is pretty good on the mic and this angle with him crying about every title match's calls is funny to watch. Even though, I don't think Orton will lose the title to Christian, I look forward to MITB, to see what the end result is, including the new match rules that Christian put into his contract.

So, my answer to this question is no, I do not think that SD! is boring at all.
 

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