Allen Iverson - The New Detroit Piston

[Monkey_Mania]

I for one am shocked. The Pistons traded CHAUNCEY MOTHERFUCKING BILLUPS, and Antonio Mcdyess for Allen Iverson. Now I've heard this is to make room for the salary cap. So then they could sign some huge player in the offseason as theyre are numerous huge stars up for free agency. I'm looking for them to sign Chris Bosh. Would be cool.

So any Pistons fans out there? What do you think of this trade? Will it be a good one, or will it end up hurting them. I myself think it will be a good trade in the long run. I hate to see Billups go though. Now the only thing Im wondering is how will Iverson and Rasheed Wallace coexist on the same team???

 

[Marquis]

I am gonna cry. Billups is my all time favorite basketball player and its a big shame to see him go from the pistons. Now i know this is not a bad trade ether since they can use someone like Iverson on their team someone who will hog the ball and go for the shots. But i think this will hurt the teams morale since Billups was like a leader for the team. But yea its just to clear up salary cut for when Lebrons,Wade,Bosh contracts are up. But of all people to get rid of billups!?

 

[Big Sexy]

Chauncey is the man, but Stuckey is a beast and this is going to clear up a lot of salary cap space. Not only that, but I think Detroit will be a little better with AI instead of Chauncey. The Pistons haven't had a guy that could take over the game for a while, and AI has that ability.

 

[CCS]

As a proud fan of the Chicago Bulls , I am over joyed thay Chauncey Billups was traded for the overrated Allen Iverson. The Bull's should be over to take over as the best team in the central division. Hopefully Derrick Rose will emerge as a star and the Bulls will return to the top of the NBA. If they realy want to make another world title run they should let Ben Gordon go and sign Dwayne Wade next year. The Detroit Pistons are a veteran team on their downside. They just lost the heart and soul of their franchise (Chauncey Billups) so i dont expect them to make the playoffs this year.

 

[X]

1) Anyone who thinks this move will push the Pistons to the top of the NBA, or even the East, is an idiot. They got rid of two quality players for one quality player. Are the extra 10 points a game you might get from AI really worth more then what Billups & McDyess brought to the team? No. Not at all. Pistons are still the 3rd best team in the East at best.

2) The guy above me who thinks this will suddenly make the Bulls the best in their division is dreaming. The Bulls are terrible. Terrible. They'll be lucky to make the playoffs as an 8 seed.

 

[Monkey_Mania]

It really pisses me off. The Detroit Pistons were one of the last teams that actually played like a team. Now its going to be the Allen Iverson show. He will just hog the ball whenever he can, and not add to the team. I hope they release him at the end of the year. I really do. The Pistons should be able to pick up someone in the offseason, and then place in Rodney Stucky. Stucky is going to be huge in my estimation.

 

[strafro]

As a huge Pistons fan I will tell everyone why this is an amazing trade for the Detroit Pistons:

1) We finally get to get rid of Chauncey Billups, I for one cannot stand him on the court, he earned the nickname "Mr. Big Shot" by taking some of the dumbest shots ever, pull up 3s with 20 seconds on the shot clock, late turnovers and since he signed his huge contract, general laziness.

2) You trade a point guard to get a better point guard, easy enough to understand.

3) AI is in a contract year. This could be the biggest point of all, he's 33 years old and is probably looking to get one last huge contract to take him to the end of his career and will try to have a huge season.

4) The Nuggets plan to buyout Antonio McDyess's contract, making him a free agent, whom the Pistons will more than likely immediately sign (i.e Mike James in 2004 when we traded for Rasheed).

5) Someone above mentioned the freeing of salary cap to sign a bug star next year, which has been the talk of Detroit for the summer, freeing space to sign Lebron, Wade or Bosh.

6) One of the Pistons biggest problems is now solved, in late game situations, no one ever would step up and demand that last shot. The Pistons now have a player who wants the ball all the time and will be the one to get the ball in late game situations.

7) Did I mention we got rid of the heaping overrated player known as Chauncey Billups?


Now as much as I love the trade and think it is a great thing for Detroit, I am going to be realistic and say they are a legitimate contender, but only if they can get some sort of inside defensive presence to step up. I like the prospects of Amir Johnson down low and guys like Stuckey, Afflalo, McDyess, Maxiell and Walter Hermann off the bench make the Pistons an incredibly deep team, that has a lot of potential, I just don't see us being able to stop a team with a dominant inside presence. (i.e Boston)

So great trade, but not a title winning trade.

And the Pistons are the second best team in the East (behind Boston).

 

[Big Sexy]

7) Did I mention we got rid of the heaping overrated player known as Chauncey Billups?

I agree with all of your points except the first and last points. AI is a an upgrade but Chauncey was not overrated. Also it was Lindsey Hunter who was involved in the Rasheed trade, and he was the one who got cut and we resigned not mike james.

1) Anyone who thinks this move will push the Pistons to the top of the NBA, or even the East, is an idiot. They got rid of two quality players for one quality player. Are the extra 10 points a game you might get from AI really worth more then what Billups & McDyess brought to the team? No. Not at all. Pistons are still the 3rd best team in the East at best.

The Pistons were title contenders before this trade and this trade made them better so I don't know what you're talking about. And how can you say the Pistons are the third best team in the East. Who's better? Philly, Cleveland. The Pistons are at worst the second best team in the East and I think they are the best. Also McDysse is going to get cut by the Nuggets and we will most likely resign him.

The Bull's should be over to take over as the best team in the central division

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The bulls suck.

The Detroit Pistons are a veteran team on their downside. They just lost the heart and soul of their franchise (Chauncey Billups) so i dont expect them to make the playoffs this year.

You must have smoked some really strong chronic to say something like that.

 

[X]

The Pistons were title contenders before this trade and this trade made them better so I don't know what you're talking about. And how can you say the Pistons are the third best team in the East. Who's better? Philly, Cleveland.

Who's better? Oh, I don't know, maybe the NBA Champions? You know, that team in Boston you seem to have apparently forgotten about? And Philly? Please. Philly will make the playoffs as a number 6 at best I'd say. But yes, I'd also say that the Cavs are better then the Pistons right now. Mo Williams was a huge addition to that team. Obviously the season is extremely young, but thats just my opinion at the moment.

The Pistons are at worst the second best team in the East and I think they are the best.

How in God's name can you say the Pistons are better then the Celtics? That's absurd. Boston is most certainly a better team then the Pistons, and they proved that last year in the playoffs. Even with the addition of AI the Celtics are still a better team.

Also McDysse is going to get cut by the Nuggets and we will most likely resign him.

That's what everyone is saying, except for the VP of the Nuggets, who's saying that they won't cut him.

 

[agentmichaelscarn]

Im a die hard Piston fan and I love this trade. Not so much because I love AI but because it gives us so much cap room for 09 and 2010 when all the major FA are available. Guys like Lebron, Bosh, Wade, Nowitski, Redd, Amare Stoudamire, Boozer just to name a few. We will have enough money to not only sign one of those players but 2 of them.

As far as on the court, this trade may also help us because it will ultimately allow us to move Stuckey to PG and give him more playing time. For those that dont follow the Pistons they dont realize how good this kid is and the main reason why we did this deal. Stuckey completely outplayed Billups in the playoffs last year(particularly against Orlando) which is why Chauncey was expendable. Also Billlups was clearly on the decline, his defense is overrated he routinely gets scorched by quick PGs like Rondo, Parker and Paul. He is simply too slow to keep up with them. His shooting percentage keeps getting worse every year as well. He simply isnt the player he once was you combine that with the fact that he will be owed close to 40 million dollars for the next 4 years and you can see why he was let go.

And for anybody that watched the Pistons they will also know that we were known to go through 5 minute or so scoring droughts at crucial times because we never had a go to scorer which was our achilles heel. Now we got that with Iverson, he can attack the rack and draw a foul and create his own shot which is something we dont have, people forget he was 3rd in the NBA last year in scoring so he can still score. I know his defense isnt great but as I mentioned above either was Billups' his d was masked because of everybody around him was so good. As soon as he would get blown by he had Sheed, Ben Wallace(when he was here) and Tayshaun Prince there to save his ass. The way Detroit rotates on defense is uncanny. Detroit is a winning environment aswell, most of them have all won rings and have been to numerous conference finals. AI has never been in an environment like this before so I wouldnt judge what he done in the past because when you play with players like Detroit does that could completely change you. Rasheed Wallace was known as a headcase and a cancer before he got to Detroit but once he got here he was a completely different player because of his surroundings. So even though it may take some time for this team to gel come playoff time they are going to be awfully scary and if all goes as planned in a couple years they will be even scarier. This trade isnt just for the present but the future aswell.

 

[Swift]

This was a good trade. Plain and simple.

Ever since Iverson returned to Philly in that game last year, he's been having second thoughts about being in Denver. Watching the game they had against the Lakers, he was visibly frustrated when George Karl took him out of the game. It was becoming a recurring theme out there. If it was left up to Iverson, he'd play 40+ minutes in every game, regardless of which unit the opposing team was playing with.

If you notice, he really hasn't even lost that much in his game. If you remember, he basically did the same thing that Lebron James did for the Cavaliers, in single-handedly taking his team to the NBA finals, back in 2001. He's had to sacrifice some of his game in Denver, playing with other like-minded players, but in Detroit, he basically gets a team that is leaps and bounds ahead of what he had in the old 76ers, and the freedom to be that guy; that scoring threat once again.

He's played under Larry Brown before, who (along with Rick Carlisle, before him) fathered the way that the Pistons continue to play today; So it's not as if style that the Pistons have become known for would be totally foreign to him in learning.

Another thing you can't deny about Allen Iverson is his heart. You can't honestly say the same thing about the Pistons of the last 2 years. So now you have a guy who will not allow the Pistons to go into their little non-chalante phases where they act as if their entitled to wins in every game. Where the '04 Pistons were doing everything they could to win, today's Pistons seem to be doing just enough to compete. Now you have a gunner who can utilize the defense that the Pistons are capable of, in conjunction with his own exceptional offense.

The Nuggets have all the potential in the world, but even when Iverson refused to give up on the games, it was as if the rest of the team had no choice. They never seemed to aspire to play like NBA Champions. A perception and environment that is completely different in comparison to what Joe Dumars has for what the Pistons are supposed to be.

Even if it is just to clear up some cap space, this move was a good one, because at least Dumars' judgment shows that he'd like to get the most out of the time within the transition.

Chauncey might have needed this kick to help him get back into gear. If he plays like everyone knows he can, he's an exceptional point guard. But if he continues to act like he's entitled to winning, without having to put in much work, I don't see him doing much for the Nuggets.

If Chauncey plays like we know he can, the Nuggets are a better team.
If AI plays like we know he can, the Pistons are a better team.

One team gets a former NBA Champion.
One team gets one of the best scorers to ever play the game (3rd in ppg all-time).