90's Region - Collective Soul vs Jimmy Eat World

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Collective Soul vs Jimmy Eat World

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  2. Jimmy Eat World

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  1. IrishCanadian25

    IrishCanadian25 Going on 10 years with WrestleZone

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    1st Round 90's Region Match

    Collective Soul vs Jimmy Eat World

    Please take into account the entire body of work of the artists, their mark on the music industry and/or society as a whole, their influence on other artists, lyrics, music, etc. If you have not already done so, please review the rules of the tournament and the Wrestlezone Forums. Have fun!​
     
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  2. X

    X RIP Sgt. Michael Paranzino / RIP CM

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    Again, Collective Soul is another band that reminds me of how bad 90s "alt-rock" could be at times. Similiar to Candlebox and Gin Blossoms in that almost every single song they did sounded like a polished and substandard attempt at grunge, albeit with a more poppy sense of song structure. I think I have one or two of their songs on my iPod.

    Jimmy Eat World is really a one album band to me. They've obviously released more then that, but I don't really enjoy any of their stuff except for Bleed American, but that album is fucking fantastic. There's not a weak track on the entire album, and that's saying something. Based on that album alone, they easily take Collective Soul for me.
     
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  3. Bernkastel

    Bernkastel Reaper of Miracles
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    I've never even heard of Jimmy Eat World, while on the other hand Collective Soul was always a favorite of mine growing up so I'm going to give them my vote out of defualt. Although I don't expect Collective Soul to that much further in the Tournament.
     
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  4. Shadowmancer

    Shadowmancer I am The Last Baron

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    Who said that Collective Soul was a bad band. Who cares if the sound was polished it doesn't take away from how good a band they are when you take into account their ability to make good music. Most of which doesn't make it to radio. Collective Soul the album is a solid effort right the way through. And the best songs weren't made into singles.

    She Gathers Rain
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    This is perhaps my favourite Collective Soul song. Not a single it has a great riff and solo. Combine in Ed Roland's vocal work and you have a great song that, is not a single. It is an example of how solid that album is.

    And then you have the Singles which don't prove that it was a terrible band. It would be like using Skid Row or White Snake to prove how bad 80's Hair Rock is. I think you may just be confusing bands there as these guys are solid, not innovative but that doesn't stop them being good.

    Shine

    [youtube]VZRwhpkcUBY[/youtube]

    Stuff to listen to is pretty much all of Collective Soul. It is that solid an album. Then the obligatory mention of Shine and Heavy. Whereas some of their new Stuff is iffy. These guys are Riff machines and pump out good songs.
     
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  5. Pickle

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    Like xFear said, Bleed American did not have one bad track. It was fantastic. Collective soul are meh. Their best tracks are slightly better than Jimmy Eat World's worst tracks, but that's about the nicest thing I can say about them.
     
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  6. justinsayne

    justinsayne Cody Rhodes is an excellant

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    Went with Jimmy Eat World on this one, basically cause I never really cared for Collective Soul, really never could understand what was so special about them, Jimmy Eat World on the other hand is a great band, anyone who claims they've never heard on them clearly has been visiting my Music Asylum thread, I featured Jimmy Eat World in their a couple weeks ago, Bleed America, as said before is a great album, but it's not their only good one, Clarity and Futures are both also good, and the new one, Chase this Light is also pretty good, I wouldn't say it's a must own, but it's definitely worth a listen
     
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  7. IrishCanadian25

    IrishCanadian25 Going on 10 years with WrestleZone

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    This is the WZ Tourney equivalent of the NCAA's "8 vs 9" matchup. VERY close.

    I am a huge Collective Soul fan. I went to see them in Atlantic City last year and they were fantastic. They had a greatest hits album after 7 years that was STACKED. Songs like Shine, Gel, The World I Know, December, Why, Precious Declaration, etc. were all very well peiced together and clean. There is a great vocal ability within the band and yes, their music is "polished" which is the way I like it.

    I also am a really big J.E.W. guy, and Justin's feature of them in the Music Asylum was among his best.
     
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    I thought I already explained what I meant by polished. I wasn't referring to the actual production quality, but the style of the music. Same thing with Collective Soul, though I admit that they have one good song in Shine. They sound like they heard "Smells Like Teen Spirit" on the radio, said "Hey look at all that money Nirvana is making!" and decided to start playing a more commercial-friendly version of "grunge" music.

    I tried to get into Collective Soul. With you and Shadow talking so highly of them, I checked out their entire back catalogue. I liked all of one song, and that was Shine. Everything else was amateur at best IMO.
     
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  9. Steamboat Ricky

    Steamboat Ricky WZCW's Living Legend

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    I'm totally marking out for JEW. They are classically my favorite musicians of all time, based primarily on my personal love for the Futures album. There is no competition in terms of my labeling it as the single greatest album ever recorded. I just can't describe how simply phenomenal it is. It was different than Bleed American, so you Bleed American marks might not appreciate it is much. But I personally think that the album is far and away simply incredible. In terms of Chase this Light I was honestly kind of disappointed. There are some great tracks, but there are also some that I just do not enjoy at all. It's a good mix of both Bleed American and Futures, but it simply cannot compare to the latter. I do, however, strongly recommend the tracks "Firefight" and "Dizzy," as they are two of my favorite Jimmy tracks ever.

    All in all, I am going to really push Jimmy as far as I can get them in the tourney. Maybe they can have a Vader-esque run through the 90s bracket? :p
     
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