First Vince really doesn't care about TNA & TNA will not even come close to winning this Monday Night War, here is why...
1. Hogan has no imagination, this was proved in WCW when he had creative control, I feel bad for the younger talent.
2. Bischoff - is a tool, add to that he has already failed to beat Vince. Look how he took over when he came to the ring, what a joke.
3. Hogan & Bischoff, the biggest hypocrites out there, all night long they were saying it is going to be different, things will change, Hogan even told Hall and Waltman that it won't be the same, and then all night long we see the NWO doing what they did ten years ago. Pathetic. Seriously Hall looks like Jerry Lewis, and Waltman freaking had sex with Chyna the chick with a dick.
4. Hall, Waltman, Flair, Hardy, Val Venus, Moore, The Nasty Boys seriously??? this is the giant additions to TNA, all of these were Vince's rejects, (exactly what Bischoff did in WCW and failed mind you).
5. Treating us like we are stupid, at the beginning of the show, Tenay and Tazz kept showing us the Limo and the eminent arrival of Hogan, then when Hogan is in ring he says he has been there all day long, talking and getting crap ready for the show. Pathetic writting. No threat there.
6. Do they really expect us to think that in approx. 4 - 6 months Hogan won't be in the ring fighting Jarrett or Angle? Please.
7. The only good thing TNA did was have Angle and Styles wrestle in a great match, Raw didn't do that.
This is nothing new and Vince has already beat this tactic, plus the fact that Vince is a BILLIONARE, has the resources to destroy TNA, much the same way he did against WCW and ECW. I really hope I am wrong in this but I know I'm not. Vince has the platform to push the talent, since TNA won't be a direct Monday night competitor, Vince has four shows, TNA one do the math.
Ok boss, I am gonna lay all this out for you nicely and in very basic vernacular just so you can keep up with what I am trying to explain to you. First of all from what I can tell is that you're an armchair wrestling expert that doesn't understand a single aspect of critical thinking. Here are responses to ALL 7 of your statements:
1. Do you think you could do any better? This topic I am going to cover in a very detailed manner, because you and anyone else that thinks they know it all about what goes on behind the scenes in wrestling obviously need to wake up. Yes, Hulk Hogan had his creative control when you happen to change the face of an industry and make it more accepted you kind of get that luxury, for as much as people like to gripe about this guy abusing power, I happen to remember him losing the title several times throughout his tenure in the company. Sting, Goldberg, Paul Wight, Lex Luger can all attest to that and please don't get technical about the "controversy" at Starrcade. The bottom line is, Hulk Hogan if he wanted to really play that creative control card would have started his WCW tenure with the title and he'd have never lost it. Unless you just happened to be behind the curtains of World Championship Wrestling for all those years Hogan was there and you are privy to something none of us fans know about, then please give us your smoking gun. Instead all you rely on is speculation and the whining and crying of armchair idiots that think they know everything about professional wrestling.
As far as feeling bad for the younger talent, I remember Hulk Hogan's feud with Kidman, say what you will but if the Hulkster was all that detrimental to Kidman's career, do you think Vince would have bought Kidman's contract when WCW was sold to WWF? And If I do remember correctly, Kidman enjoyed a few successful years "up North", in fact hes currently a trainer for Florida Championship Wrestling helping new talent elevate themselves to WWE. Im not going to say that Hulk Hogan had everything to do that, but Kidmans run for however brief it was definitely didnt hurt Kidmans future successes. Other talents in WCW that had a shot against Hogan and actually came out winning were guys like The Wall, Vampiro and Mike Awesome. Now to be fair The Wall never got to exploit his potential due to personal issues and his early passing, but he was one of the people along with Awesome and Kidman that got called up by WWF in the post-Monday Night War era. Vampiro had a successful career outside of the US, being one of Mexicos top stars before and after his WCW days. The same can be said for Mike Awesome, as I remember he enjoyed quite a successful run in ECW and in Japan. Granted his WCW run didn't see him rise to his full potential, but his matches in ECW and Japan are the stuff of legend to TRUE fans. In all of the above mentioned names in WCW, none of these guys were sent to the unemployment line after wrestling Hogan. Hulk Hogan did not derail the careers of these people. Where these folks carried their careers after meeting Hogan was all up to them. Sadly, for one reason or another Mike Awesome and The Walls lives ended prematurely.
In the case of Kidman and Vampiro, like I mentioned earlier they are still working in the business in one way or another. Whether they are totally content with their current roles in the business is more speculation that I am not going to even bother covering, because Id be no better than you or any of these people that act like they are insiders to the business. But Hulk Hogan didn't put them out of a job or hinder their careers like so many theorists like to say!
And yes before you say anything else, I am more than aware that there are some younger guys like Randy Orton that didnt get the W over Hogan, but lets be honest about something, shall we? At this point Orton was already a bonafide star competing with people the likes of Triple H, Shawn Michaels, Chris Benoit, Ric Flair and Mick Foley just to name a mere few. Orton was already a one time World Champion so he was already in the main event scene. Despite losing to Hogan at SummerSlam 2006, it doesnt look like his career has been hurting any for the past few years. Unless of course you consider four WWE Championships and two WrestleMania events to be a curse in your career.
Now despite my pro-Hogan stance, I am going to be objective and say that I would have been just as happy with Hogan losing to Randy Orton at SummerSlam 2006. But for one reason or another all the parties involved agreed to the ending of the match at SummerSlam, now I bet I will probably be hit with a statement like Oh yeah, well Hulk Hogan would have threatened to no-show the event if he wasnt given the W over Orton. Again, more speculation, speculation and fact are not synonyms people, just remember that.
Now as far as Hogans lack of imagination thats pretty subjective, with the exception of his epic clash with Ric Flair that the WWF failed to deliver, his early storylines in WCW (his feud with Brutus Beefcake, The Dungeon Of Doom and The Four Horsemen) now a days seem very farcical, but keep in mind this all went on at the same time that Vince McMahon had garbage men, plumbers and hog farmers in his roster of superstars. Thats not to say WCW was any better but it was no worse either. Again, I look back at a lot of these storylines now with Hogan feuding with the likes of the Yeti, The Giant and Kevin Sullivan as being pretty silly but it was par for the course in the 90s. The wrestling business overall wasnt anywhere near its height of popularity that it had in the 80s. So what do you really expect? All the same Hogans inclusion in to WCW, helped play a hand in pro wrestling from both WWF and WCW being a blast to watch in the late 90s into early 2000s.
2. Eric Bischoff is a tool, huh? Well, I dont know the man personally, so I cant comment on his personal character. All I could ask you kind sir is this question, when was the last time you went to work for a major corporation like Turner Broadcasting and take responsibility for a subsidiary of theirs that was considered a red headed step child and turn it in to a multi-million dollar entity that competed with and reigned supreme over the World Wrestling Federation for almost two years. Granted it didnt last forever, but do you think you could do any better? Eric Bischoff love him or hate him, has made positive contributions to professional wrestling. But like anybody else, even he only had so much control at the end of the day, because even in WCWs darkest days they were still putting up better numbers than a lot of Turner Broadcastings other programming, its just that when you are owned by a corporate juggernaut theres only so much you can do. Eric Bischoff was put into that position. Thats the one thing I will give credit to WWF/E for, its a self made company and thats why they were able to recover and take the fight back to WCW. But give Eric Bischoff and company credit, theyve done a better job than most have in trying to provide an alternative to Vinces wrestling programming.
3. Last nights TNA show did indeed feature the old nWo together, yes they had their little reunion pow wow in the ring, but wasnt that to be expected? Now I dont have a crystal ball telling me what is going to happen in the next few weeks. But, Im taking the wait and see approach unlike someone with your short sighted nature. Now, things are looking likely that the nWo was behind all the attacks that happened last night. But neither you or I know for sure whats going on yet. The Foley beatdown was obvious last night, but theres nothing saying for sure that Hulk Hogan is necessarily in cahoots with them, it just looks that way. I would let things play out before I draw any assumptions. I mean already whats going on last night was a lot better than when the nWo came back to WWF all those years ago. Im not saying that things wont be the same again, I am hoping its not, because I definitely dont want to see people like you being right about this. But hey if thats the case, Ill be more than happy to admit I am wrong IF and I stress IF things play out that way. But so far, my feeling is that they are throwing us a couple of red herrings right now with those segments that showed TNA superstars like Rhyno the Motor City Machine Guns being laid out, we dont know anything about whos really behind that, but it may not necessarily be Hogan and company. You are aware of what a red herring is right? Anyway, if you are not sure of the definition, you can go look that one up because Ill move on. Basically, wait till you see the bigger picture before you make your judgments. Because a swerve could be in the works, remember I said could, Im not a TNA writer nor can I read their minds like you seem to think you can do. As far as the personal conduct of Hall and Waltman, while I am amused by your statements I must say that we arent here to look at these people as humanitarians, if these guys can stay on the ball and serve their purpose, itll all work out in the end. Keep their personal lives out of this, unless it plays a factor once again in their roles in the company, then theres cause for worry. Which I will admit theres a risk with these guys, its none of our business what these people do in their personal lives. Again, just take a wait and see approach, let it play out. Hell, them showing up is no worse than Triple H playing with a bearded dwarf who acts like a 10 year old.
4. Now you mention the rejects of World Wrestling Entertainment, that ridiculous statement just makes me laugh, Ill admit Val Venis and Shannon Moore were released from WWE and Scott Halls personal demons got the better of him, thats a point I can concede. But, hey these things happen. At least they can say they worked there before and made it to the big time. With the overload of wrestlers in WWE, maybe Venis and Moore can find new life in TNA, just wait and see, thats all I can tell you. But now you have the audacity to refer to Flair, Jeff Hardy, and The Nasty Boys as WWEs rejects. Flair and Jeff Hardy had contracts that expired and they chose not to stay with the company, that was a decision they made. From what has been said they were both offered opportunities to stay, they just chose to move on, that was their right. As far as The Nasty Boys go, I am not sure how old you are man, but the Nasty Boys were one of the 90s most well known teams. Having both success in WWF and WCW these guys knew how to brawl, there was nothing elegant about what they did in that ring, but they always made things interesting. Any major team you can think of back in the day they feuded with, The Steiners, Harlem Heat, The Hart Foundation and The Road Warriors, some of the best talent in the world right there and The Nastys put on some very entertaining stuff. They were one of the Outsiders early feuds when Hall and Nash came back to WCW and The Nasty Boys showed that they are a team capable of putting talent over. Now that they are in TNA hunting down Team 3D, this could make a very interesting feud. Its not like they targeted Tag Champs, The British Invasion right off the bat. They got a lot more charisma than most of WWEs thrown together tag teams, so in this case just let things play themselves out.
5. Dude, you are so totally reaching if you are going to be picking this point apart. An easy in kayfabe solution could fix this whole How could Hogan be in the back all day if hes just arriving now at the arena?, since Hogans an authority figure in TNA, for all ya know maybe he had to step out of the arena for awhile and take care of some TNA Affairs, i.e. like meeting up with that other limo? Remember he is the boss. Yeah, that sounds silly but if you need an answer that bad for as to why there was that little contradiction, I just gave you one. A better explanation though is that Hogan had a simple botch in his life, it was kayfabe meeting real life, and unfortunately it came off sounding a little stupid, Ill admit that, but to bitch about this as being the worst case of writing ever, than you really need to get over yourself. Its not like Hogan said
6. Hogan coming back to wrestle, its frighteningly possible, its personally not something I want to see despite my being a huge fan of The Hulkster. Bottom line is though, for as old as this guy is and despite his limited mobility, theres still more people out there that like him than you think. It very well could happen if the majority of the fans want to see it. But so far the man held true to his word, if getting out there and working a match with TNA was truly his prerogative then Kurt Angle would have been told to sit this one out and let Hogan go one on one with AJ Styles, but that didnt happen. Id say that Hogan has made good on his claim to not actively compete these past couple of months. With the exception of the Australia tour (despite not being a huge success, it still was something that most non-WWE entities couldnt pull off) the Hulkster hasnt laced up the boots in quite a while. Again, Hogan wrestling is not up to just you and me, if enough people want to see it, and Hogan can somehow pull it off to their liking, then its a possibility.
7. Yes, the AJ Styles vs Kurt Angle match was without wearing out the pun, phenomenal. The other matches were well done too and Im not even a huge fan of womens wrestling but I give all the lady performers their credit, they put it together tonight. The opening contest left a little bit to be desired in my opinion, but just the same that is only my personal opinion. Overall, I enjoyed the show. RAW didnt inspire me as much despite Bret Harts return, which in itself was good to see but I dont think it was done flawlessly. The way I look at it is like this, RAW has been on for so long and the WWE has been around so long that they could have done a lot better and they should have because they are the bigger and better company as of right now.
TNA though, this is just a small part of the greater picture. If you were to rewind 15 years ago and watch the first Nitro, it wasnt the greatest thing either. With the exception of Lex Lugers shocking return and a very good Sting vs Flair match (again I could never remember a bad one between the two), there were some rough edges with Nitro. But its all a work in progress. This is just the beginning of something, TNA cant afford to make this a sprint, its got a be a marathon. This isnt about beating WWE and putting them out of business, its all about being able to hang, and if you give it time and see them try to make these changes instead of just nitpicking, we could see some good things happen. Even though things look to be starting off the same, lets just be patient.
IN CONCLUSION:
Im not going to say that I am gonna be right in the end about this, but until Im proven wrong, Im going to let everything play itself out. Because what happened last night on TNA has given us to an alternative to what WWE has been offering for the past couple years. Although to their credit such moves like making Sheamus a World Champion now and breaking up the WWE Title scenes monotony is a good sign. But even some of the skeptics out there cant even be happy with that. But at the end of the day it doesnt really matter, because you armchair critics and self professed experts hardly make a dent in how successful the wrestling business is, and you all need to be made aware of how your lack of critical thinking and open mindedness is a detriment to an artform I have grown up loving and you people just cant seem to be happy with.
Just be grateful that there are at least attempts to make a viable competitor out there to WWE. Nothing happens over night and TNA being around for seven years thus far is pretty impressive compared to failed endeavors like the XWF and the WWA. At the end of the day things should be all about being able to enjoy two separate wrestling entities like we were able to over a decade ago. So ladies and gents, just remember critical thinking is definitely a quality trait, go and learn a thing or two about it.
