TNA Charlotte: Round 1, Match 6: #26 John Morrison vs. #39 Jack Swagger

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  1. Y 2 Jake

    Y 2 Jake Slightly Autistic

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    You don't think they'll just throw him in a match with Evan Bourne or Tommy Dreamer?

    Surely the fault of Finlay and Hornswoggle. Nobody ever said Swagger wasn't green. So it should be up to Finlay to help the man. And while Finaly is a charisma vacuum, it's usually Hornswoggle who get's his heat.

    Swagger, the rookie, was to blame just as much as Finlay, the vet, was.

    Why do people like Morrison again?

    So he IS ready. Good. We both agree that WWE put the title on him because they saw more potential in him than anybody else on that brand.

    The Punk/Nitro feud was terrible. There was nothing even remotely memorable about it. Other than, yes, when Punk won the belt off him. Both have had unspectacular reigns. But one is in his first 6 months on the roster.
     
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  2. Rusty

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    Morrison wins this. I'd personally love to see this match if one of them turned face. It's in the TNA region, this instantly gives to edge to John Morrison seeing as he utilizes the ring ropes much more often than Swagger. Swagger has only accomplished an ECW Championship reign, one that couldn't even get him on the Wrestlemania card. While John Morrison has become the main focus of the tag team division for the past 2 years. He's carried ECW and had a tremendous feud with CM Punk.

    Seriously, his matches with Punk were some of the best I saw in 2007. He's just more credible and Swagger is still relatively new to the company. So Morrison wins this in what would be a good long match.
     
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  3. Y 2 Jake

    Y 2 Jake Slightly Autistic

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    Really scraping the barrel when you have to make the point that he's the main focus of a non-existent tag division. But to be fair, there's isn't anything you can really say about Morrison. The guy is so bland and boring it's unreal.

    The guy also hasn't carried ECW, he's on that show via a WWE.com roster page only. He and The Miz flit between each brand almost equally.

    I also feel sorry for you Rusty if Punk vs. Morrison were producing some of the best matches you saw in 2007. Not bad matches by any means. Just blah.

    Vote Swagger. The lesser of two evils.
     
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  4. Rusty

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    Swagger's has been involved in 2 pay per view matches. One of them was against Matt Hardy, you know the guy who the IWC dislikes. The other was a bad match against Finlay, a man who is over 50 years of age and needs a midget to get over as a babyface. At least Morrison won his ECW Title on pay per view.

    Plus, Swagger's best matches have been against Hardy and Tommy Dreamer. He hasn't even entered the real competition yet as he's stuck on the WWE's third rate show. Morrison is a workhorse, and the guy has even pinned Shawn Michaels. Even if it was in a tag team match, he still did it. At least I think he did.

    John Morrison put on many great matches with CM Punk. They weren't the best of 2007, but when it comes to free TV matches from that year, there weren't a real lot of matches that were better than the matches those two guys had.
     
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  5. Y 2 Jake

    Y 2 Jake Slightly Autistic

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    So? In the 6 months or so that Swagger has been on the main roster he's been on two PPVs, but how many was Morrison in over the course of 2008? Maybe 4 or 5.

    I thought they liked him. Good match by the way.

    It was an average match, it just had no heat.

    Everybody lives midgets. It'd be my plan to give one to most of the boring wrestlers in WWE.

    As a last minute replacement. He wouldn't have been on the show were it not for Benoit. Even then he only got the title because the proposed Benoit/Punk feud wouldn't have worked with the rookie as champ. If they knew Benoit wouldn't be coming back, then Morrison wouldn't have won.

    Matt Hardy vs. Jack Swagger, winner Jack Swagger. Matt Hardy vs. John Morrison, who's the bigger more over star?, winner Matt Hardy.

    Morrison was demoted because he wasn't ready for the big shows. He now goes to Smackdown & Raw primarily to lose.

    Workhorse? He bumps a lot, I guess that makes him a workhorse. But he only bumps like that to draw attention to himself. If he was intresting he wouldn't need to.
     
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  6. gd

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    I don't understand why so many people are voting for Morrison. I can't say that he has done anything that extraordinary as a singles competitor, and Jack Swagger has become a bigger star than him in just 4 months.
     
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  7. Luther_Hull

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    I've voted for Swagger because I'm going kayfabe and I see no conceivable way of Morrison beating Swagger. Swagger is a beast, he'd easily overpower Morrison, he's faster, fitter and stronger. Has the guy even lost a match cleanly yet? Swagger wins this one easily.
     
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  8. FromTheSouth

    FromTheSouth You don't want it with me.

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    I really wanted Swagger to win here, but my problem is that Miz being at ringside creates a huge problem for Swagger. These hetero life partners seem to be each others security blanket, and with their tag prowess, it would be problem for Morrison to distract the ref while Miz changed the course of the match,

    Furthermore, the six sided ring is an advantage for Morrison. Having more places to jump from really creates a problem for Swagger. Morrison can hit the springboard kick from so many places. In a tough match, Morrison's quickness and experience carries him to a win.
     
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  9. Rusty

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    I'm implying that the experience advantage goes to Morrison. The guy has been with the company for about 5 years now.

    They probably love him now because he's a heel. Average match though.

    Morrison's matches are better and more interesting. Even though he is hardly booed.

    They could have just cancelled the match and put it on the next edition of ECW, but they didn't. Swagger wasn't trusted to win a title on pay per view, so the WWE gave it to him on an episode of ECW.

    Swagger only beat Hardy because he was going to Smackdown, and the WWE needed to get the title off him. If this match took place prior to this, Matt Hardy probably would have won. Morrison has beaten former world champions in Rey Mysterio and Shawn Michaels, Swagger hasn't.

    Not really, he doesn't lose that often. Unlike Swagger, at least Morrison actually gets to work on live shows and even on Smackdown where he gets much more exposure.

    Yeah, he's a workhorse because he regularly wrestles on Raw, Smackdown and ECW. Swagger basically only wrestles on ECW. Jack Swagger isn't even trusted with the ECW Championship, which is why the WWE thinks he is not worthy of wrestling on the Wrestlemania card.
     
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  10. CENAtion

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    HBK wins this one...oops...i mean John Morrison. I really like the potential of Morrison he has the speed, agility, high flying, and strength in my opinion to become a huge star and to get past Jack Swagger. I am a fan of Swagger but to me he is to green and will get caught making a mistake that Morrison will catch him on and move onto the next round.
     
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  11. Y 2 Jake

    Y 2 Jake Slightly Autistic

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    5 years and he's done nothing. A worthless IC title reign, a worthless ECW reign and several pointless tag title reigns. It'd a good belt haul, but none of those reigns meant shit.

    I like how London & Kendricks reign was worthless yet the long Miz & Morrison reign wasn't. Even though Londrick defended the belts in 15 minute long matches each week. While The Miz & Morrison rarely defended the belts.


    Not really. Like I said, he sells very well. But he also loses all those matches.

    The Miz, Shad or JTG maybe. All have more charisma than Morrison.

    Yeah, shit heel.



    Matt Hardy needed a title rematch, but they were going with the Hardy vs. Hardy storyline. There wasn't another way to do it effectively.



    Like I've said before. Swagger has only been on the roster for 6 months, so he hasn't had chance to face Rey Mysterio or HBK. Like you said, Morrison has been on the roster for 5 years. And only 5 years later was he able to get pins over bigger caliber wrestlers.

    Anyway, Matt Hardy is bigger than Rey Mysterio at this moment in time.



    Again, nobody is arguing that Swagger isn't green and shouldn't be kept on ECW.



    But WWE seemingly won't put Morrison in a singles match on WrestleMania, yet in all likelyhood, Swagger will probably get a singles match added this week. Or even on the night.
     
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  12. Cena's Little Helper

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    Man, I was going for Morrison, but after reading what some of his detractors have said, I have to go with Swagger. Admittedly, Morrison has accomplished more than Swagger, but he has years on him. Also, if we were to compare Morrison's first year with the company with that of Swagger's (which hasn't even fully come about yet), then Swagger has accomplished much more than Morrison. Furthermore, this is the one match-up where I can't ignore the future; Morrison's is so uncertain, while Swagger's is certainly bright (if he can do something about the voice, that is).
     
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