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  1. Big Nick Dudley

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    I think the two best matches Cena has ever competed in were against Shawn Michaels, and the others aren't even close. Says something.
     
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  2. Little Jerry Lawler

    Little Jerry Lawler Sigmund Freud On Ritalin And Roids

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    Cena vs. Batista at Summerslam 2008 and Wrestlemania 26 beg to differ.
     
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  3. Big Nick Dudley

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    Than both would be terribly wrong.
     
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  4. Find'er Woo'er Ryder

    Find'er Woo'er Ryder :( lost ma Mayhem Title

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    CENA! CENA! CENA! CENA!

    That's right! John Cena will win this year!!!!
     
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  5. Disturbed

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    Would you like to say Cena has had worse matches than HBK too Ryder?
     
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  6. Find'er Woo'er Ryder

    Find'er Woo'er Ryder :( lost ma Mayhem Title

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    Cena is in his prime. Sure HBK is great, but he is called Mr. Wrestlemania because his only great matches are at wrestlemania. Cena is the bees knees right now.
     
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  7. Disturbed

    Disturbed Championship Contender

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    Michaels has had all kinds of great matches not at Wrestlemania.

    Michaels vs Angle from Vengeance 05

    Michaels vs Cena from Raw in UK

    Michaels vs Triple H at Summerslam 02

    Michaels vs Jericho from No Mercy 08 Ladder match


    And those are ones since his return in 02.
     
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  8. Jsaturn14

    Jsaturn14 Pre-Show Stalwart

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    Seriously, John Cena has been growing on me for the last few years, but to say that he has even had a quarter of the amazing matches that HBK has had is just ridiculous. Cena has had some great matches, I am not denying that, but HBK has had a 20 plus year career, and has many many more:

    1985-1991: Reinventing Tag Team Wrestling with Jannety, and putting on great tag team bouts with The Hart Foundation, The British Bulldogs, and The Brain Busters (Arn Anderson and Tully Blanchard).
    May 17th 1993 Raw: vs Marty Jannetty
    Wrestlemania 10: The ladder match with Razor
    Mania 11: The ONE good match that took place that night against Diesel
    Mania 12: The Iron Man Match against Bret
    Mind Games 1996: Awesome, Awesome match against Mankind
    Badd Blood 1997: First HIAC against The Undertaker
    Royal Rumble 1998: Casket Match against Taker
    Mania 14: vs Stone Cold
    Summerslam 2002: vs HHH
    Suvivor Series 2002: First Elimination Chamber Match
    Armageddon 2002: 2 out of 3 Falls Match against HHH
    Mania 19: vs Jericho (arguably the match of the night)
    Mania 20: vs Beniot and HHH
    Badd Blood 2004: Hell in a Cell vs HHH
    Mania 21: vs Kurt Angle
    Vengeance 2005: vs Kurt Angle
    Raw 2005: vs Shelton Benjamin
    Summerslam 2005: vs Hogan
    Survivor Series 2005: Team Raw vs Team Smackdown
    Mania 22: vs Vince McMahon
    Summerslam 2006: DX vs McMahons
    Late 2006-2007: all the stuff vs Rated RKO
    Royal Rumble 2007: All great, but especially the last 10 minutes of the match when it was just 1 on 1 with Taker
    Mania 23: vs John Cena
    Raw 2007: vs John Cena
    Mania 24: vs Ric Flair
    Summer 2008: Every Single Match against Chris Jericho
    Mania 25 & 26: vs Taker

    Those are just the matches I can think of off the top of my head. I am sure if I thought more about it, I could think of many many more. Sorry, but Cena is not at that level yet. Maybe someday he will be, who I am to say that he won't get there eventually, but he is not there yet.
     
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  9. Disturbed

    Disturbed Championship Contender

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    That sums it up Ryder. Not all of those were at Wrestlemania. HBK has even out-done his Wrestlemania performances. Some say the re-matches between him and Cena and him and Angle were better than the ones at Mania. Some also say the Ladder match with Razor Ramon at Summerslam was better than the original Wrestlemania one.
     
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  10. Uncle Chester

    Uncle Chester I see you, and your penis.

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    Who can have a better match with Jericho, Cena or Michaels?
    With Triple H?
    With Taker?
    With Orton?
    With Flair?

    And Cena's matches with Batista at Mania was good but wasn't a classic in any sense of the word.
     
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  11. Coco

    Coco Mid-Card Championship Winner

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    Cena dragged HBK kicking and screaming to his first two classics over a year when they locked up in 2007. Cena was the best worker in the company at that point. HBK was along for the ride.

    Someone want to explain to me why HBK marks felt the need to drop an abundance of suck on this thread? Actually, no. Don't explain it to me. Just go away.
     
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  12. Uncle Chester

    Uncle Chester I see you, and your penis.

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    No doubt Cena's a very good worker and was the MVP of 07 but his shitty selling during Mania that year almost ruined that match completely while Michaels gave a great performance.
     
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  13. Coco

    Coco Mid-Card Championship Winner

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    Me and the people I was watching didn't think his selling ruined the match. I didn't even know there was anything to get bent out of shape about until I went on the internet the next day. Eternal proof that smarks get bent out of shape over things nobody else gives a rat's behind about. You'll understand it when you're older. Or remain in mental infancy. We'll see which.
     
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  14. Big Nick Dudley

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    HBK had a not-so-great 2006, minus his match with McMahon at WrestleMania 22. But to say Cena carried him through any match they had is complete and total bullshit.

    Not sure if this was meant for me or not, but I'm really not a big HBK mark. I wouldn't have said anything at all had I not read John Cena has had as many or more great matches than HBK. Spin it however you like, it's not true.
     
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  15. Uncle Chester

    Uncle Chester I see you, and your penis.

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    Nobody means you and your friends? His selling was shit and this little anti-smark thing you keep on saying is utter bullshit. I have never been or will ever be a smark. I have my opinions in wrestling and I don't try and over analyze what is virtually a scripted soap opera. But I do however notice obvious deficiencies.

    I have never let a small little storyline hole ruin an entire angle, I don't look at wrestling as an intellectual fucking movie who has critics wetting their pants at the amount of symbolism, I look at it as a semi-mindless action flick.
     
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  16. Coco

    Coco Mid-Card Championship Winner

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    So you wet your pants over selling rather than symbolism. Got it.
     
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  17. Hulk Hogan's Brother

    Hulk Hogan's Brother Stop asking me what I'm gonna do!!!

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    Cena vs Jericho is a debate I am looking forward to.
     
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  18. Uncle Chester

    Uncle Chester I see you, and your penis.

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    Terrible selling that ruins matches.
     
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  19. Coco

    Coco Mid-Card Championship Winner

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    Why? It's pretty one-sided.

    Kayfabe: Jericho is Cena's job-boy bitch

    Drawing Power: Cena is the face of his generation and is the biggest draw since Rock and Austin; Jericho is an upper-midcarder who's proven he doesn't belong at the top.

    Ring Work: Jericho's ring work is a slop show. The guy makes Cena look like Bret Hart.
     
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  20. Coco

    Coco Mid-Card Championship Winner

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    No, I get it. Selling the leg moistens thine panties. Say no more. I totally understand.
     
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  21. Uncle Chester

    Uncle Chester I see you, and your penis.

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    I guess you would.
     
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  22. Hulk Hogan's Brother

    Hulk Hogan's Brother Stop asking me what I'm gonna do!!!

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    Most smarks don't see it that way. They keep bringing up the fact about how selfless a worker Jericho is without understanding that it's not a big deal.

    I'm saying that he will get a lot of support. Whether he deserves it or not is another question.
     
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  23. Coco

    Coco Mid-Card Championship Winner

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    You know who else is a selfless worker?

    Funaki. And zero fucks were given.
     
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  24. Little Jerry Lawler

    Little Jerry Lawler Sigmund Freud On Ritalin And Roids

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    Second best match of the night. Batista/HHH was better.

    I'll give you this one.

    I prefer Angle/Mysterio more.

    I question your standard of ladder matches.
     
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  25. Coco

    Coco Mid-Card Championship Winner

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    You're being stingy with credit, LJL.
     
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