[Official] Team U.S.A. Discussion Thread

[Theo Mays]

First vote goes to Hulk Hogan. The guy put pro wrestling on the map and he made wrestling cool. The guy's theme song screams ultimate American. This is built for Hogan and I wouldn't want anyone else captaining Team America other than "The Immortal" Hulk Hogan.

Second vote goes to Kurt Angle. Can't have Wrestlezolympics without the Olympic Hero, Kurt Angle. Plus there is a submission match and Angle has the Ankle Lock and once he pulls those straps down and locks that in, it is usually game over for the opponent.

And my third vote is pretty much a throwaway vote, but I need to vote for him because he is one of my all time favs. This man being "The American Dream" Dusty Rhodes. He just oozed charisma and was pretty darn good in the ring. He is probably a long shot to make the team, but I gotta show him some support.

 

[Mat FTW]

Hulk Hogan- The most patriotic wrestler of all time. You ask anyone who Hulk Hogan is and you will go 2 seconds without an answer.
Kurt Angle- Olympic Gold medalist.
RVD- Read Coco's post.

 

[Xtreme_Animlas2314]

This was the hardest poll that I had to pick especially with only three choices to choose from. To be honest some of the guys shouldn't been on the list and I know why that they are though. Most of the these talents were all WWE and WCW veteran talents except for like two really. I'm surprised of the names that got picked though but hey you had to cut the list down to only fifteen. Plus the USA team looks like they are going for people that has most popularity then wrestling ability. I mean yeah back in the day they were good but if we are talking about the time frame of right now. Hulk Hogan can barely move around with bad knees and hip. Hey its just like playing these guys in a video game so anything can happen. Still tough decision to make since they are going against more faster and technical team. I know for sure that there is at least eight good talents that can go against the other teams but the question is will the right names get pick though. I picked Sting, AJ Styles, and even Steve AUstin for fun! If I remember correctly but I thought that I may have pick RVD though.


As of right now I decided to get the four teams that are listed with the top five or six talants that may make the team. The USA team is strong but I'm just not sure about Hulk Hogan and I am a huge fan but for something like this I'm not sure. I can see him as manager or someone that you can trust to make sure things go right and no interference.


Team Canada vs Team Japan vs Team Mexico vs Team USA


Ironman Match:

Bret Hart vs Mitsuharu Misawa vs Eddie Guerrero vs Shawn Michaels


Submission Match:

Chris Jericho vs Antonio Inoki vs Mil Mascaras vs Kurt Angle


Falls Count Anywhere Free for All:

Chris Benoit vs El Santo vs John Cena


Ladder Match / Money in the Bank:

Edge vs Rey Mysterio vs Rob van Dam or AJ Styles


??

Lance Storm or Christian vs Keiji Mutoh vs Psicosis vs Hulk Hogan


Thats how I see it. Unless there is a fifth match in Round One but there could be some changes but it just going to depend on who makes the team at the end of the votes.

 

[Rip]

1st vote - Hogan - The greatest face, the greatest heel, the greatest sports entertainer of all time

2nd vote - Angle - Best pure athlete ever, best technical wrestler ever

3rd vote - RVD - Well.... he never claimed to be the show stoppa.... just the whole fuckin' show.

 

[gd]

Not much time left people, vote AJ Styles, he still has a chance. It's down to him, Cena, and Austin for the last spot, and he definetly deserves it.

Sure, Austin and Cena are great, but they're very similar to Hogan, and they aren't nearly as entertaining as AJ. Out of those three, which one has had year after year of nothing but 4 or 5 star matches? Which one has helped to put a once irrelevant promotion on the map? Which one has the ability to fight on the ground and in the air?

His name would be AJ Styles. Nothing against Cena and Austin, they're both great, but we already have Hogan on this team, who is extremely similar to Cena and Austin. We need something different, and that something is the best wrestler in the world today, hands down, AJ Styles.

 

[Turd Ferguson]

If you haven't voted yet, then Stone Cold Steve Austin getting the last spot could very well be make or break for Team USA... and if you don't want any commies or socialists winning, and you want Team USA to pick up the gold, then Stone Cold needs your vote.

So far, Team USA seems to have Shawn Michaels in place for the Iron Man match, who should be considered a very strong favorite. He's proven he can go over the 60 minute mark and pick up a win, and he has a hell of a gas tank, and a never say die attitude.

Kurt Angle is going to represent Team USA in the submission match. As a submission specialist, and a Gold Medal winning Olympic wrestler, the submission match event also has a strong favorite for Team USA.

I think Coco and I have proved at length that Rob Van Dam is the best possible choice as the ladder match representative. He's damn near unbeatable in ladder matches, and has quite the resume behind him. RVD is already a shoo-in to win the ladder match.

So where does AJ Styles conceivably fit in the falls count anywhere free for all? He'd get destroyed. Hulk Hogan wouldn't be a good choice for that match either.

However, one of the best brawlers in recent history is available, and unbelievably ekeing out the 5th spot, and that is Stone Cold Steve Austin. Would you doubt Stone Cold against some of the biggest and baddest brawlers out there? I sure as hell wouldn't. Stone Cold's wreckless style was a huge crowd favorite. His believability as a roughhousing redneck was his gimmick, and it was hugely popular, with him being the biggest star of the boom of popularity in wrestling in the late 90s. Team USA needs you to vote Stone Cold Steve Austin in for the free for all.

 

[Razor]

Vote John Cena, Shawn Michaels, and Hulk Hogan.

Why?

Hulk Hogan is the Immortal. He took down everyone who stood in the way of good ole American Patriotism, and in the Wrestlezolympics every single one of his adversaries will be doing that exact damn thing. Hogan can take them all and beat them all.

John Cena. Hell yeah. You may want Austin to be your brawler, but why? Cena never surrenders. He's your Hogan without the shitty leg drop. Cena can brawl, and he's got a never say die attitude. Easy spot in Team USA.

Then, finally, Shawn motherfucking Michaels. While I may not like what he has become, he certainly has plenty of quality work under his belt. And he's won Ladder Matches, Iron Man Matches, pretty much any gimmick match you could think of that IC25 would want to put in the Wrestlzolympics. Michaels won't let the team down.

Vote Cena, Michaels, and Hogan for Team USA. DO IT.

 

[X]

John Cena. Hell yeah. You may want Austin to be your brawler, but why? Cena never surrenders. He's your Hogan without the shitty leg drop. Cena can brawl, and he's got a never say die attitude. Easy spot in Team USA.

Come on, Austin is a far superior brawler to Cena. He cemented his legacy defeating the biggest names in wrestling in some of the greatest brawls the WWE has ever seen, from The Rock to Triple H to Kurt Angle, the Undertaker, I mean literally I could just name every single great wrestler to come into the WWF from 97-02, but that would just be redundant. Cena is a good brawler as well, but his brawling victories over the likes of JBL or Randy Orton aren't nearly as impressive as Austin's track record.

Austin deserves your vote over Cena here people, easily. Vote for the second greatest American professional wrestler of all time behind Hulk Hogan himself, Stone Cold Steve Austin. The man gives Team USA a far greater chance of winning than John Cena would, especially with his unpopularity on the internet.

 

[Tenta]

John Cena. Hell yeah. You may want Austin to be your brawler, but why? Cena never surrenders. He's your Hogan without the shitty leg drop. Cena can brawl, and he's got a never say die attitude. Easy spot in Team USA.

You expect me to take seriously the guy that loses a last man standing match with Edge, of all people, Razor? Really? Look, say what you will, but if I want a brawler, I want someone with the ruthless nature of Steve Austin. This guy took a paralyzing piledriver, and was able to come back and win the match. He got hit by an automobile, and came back ten months later. He came back from career ending neck surgery, and provided the best work of his career. (Don't believe me? Watch his triple threat match with Chris Benoit and Chris Jericho. Or his classic with Kurt Angle.)

The fact is, in spite of what you'd all like to believe, Cena is human. He can be taken out by a certain amount of punishment. You can't keep a good rattlesnake down. You want a victory in Last Man Standing? I suggest you turn to a man that has no quit to him. The man that would pass out to a Sharpshooter, rather than give up. If I'm in the foxhole, I want Steve Austin right next to me.

Plus, Cena's Era nowhere near matches the awesomeness that was Austin's era. Period.

 

[Turd Ferguson]

Not just a Last Man Standing Match against Edge, but Cena also lost a New York City Parking Lot Brawl to JBL last year.

I repeat, he lost in a PARKING LOT BRAWL TO JBL. That alone should disqualify him from representing Team USA in this Free for All Falls Count Anywhere match. Cena would be a terrible choice for Team USA in that event alone. It would be even more of a travesty if he represented Team USA in this event while one of the greatest brawlers of the last 10 years was sitting on the sidelines.

 

[gd]

It appears AJ is done, but Cena still has a chance, so vote him over Austin. You make think Angle would be the best choice for the submission match, but that's not the cause. Cena is your man there. He never, and I mean never, gives up. I can't even imagine John Cena tapping out to anything, it'd never happen. Putting Cena on this team means an automatic victory in the submission match.

 

[Xtreme_Animlas2314]

I'm sorry to disagree my friend! Just because Cena started to use some submission holds these days doesn't qualify him as a submission wrestler which is Kurt Angle. The guy is cool but to be honest he is no match to Angle or Austin. Both men would destory Cena. I was hoping for Sting or AJ to at least make the team but it doesn't look like they will, oh well. I really do like the team of Shawn Michaels, Steve Austin, Kurt Angle, Rob Van Dam, and I guess Hulk Hogan. Like I stated before I which Hogan could be just the leader and be like in a manager role because of all his injuries and that would let Cena or Styles or Sting a shot to be on the team.

 

[gd]

I'm sorry to disagree my friend! Just because Cena started to use some submission holds these days doesn't qualify him as a submission wrestler which is Kurt Angle. The guy is cool but to be honest he is no match to Angle or Austin. Both men would destory Cena. I was hoping for Sting or AJ to at least make the team but it doesn't look like they will, oh well. I really do like the team of Shawn Michaels, Steve Austin, Kurt Angle, Rob Van Dam, and I guess Hulk Hogan.

How isn't Cena a good submission wrestler? No one can get out of the STF, not even "great" submission wrestlers like Chris Jericho. In fact, the STF is probably the best submission move there is, it has stopped the likes of HHH, Big Show, Jericho, Orton, etc. The list goes on and on. However, the thing that sets Cena apart as a submission wrestler is the fact that he won't ever quit and has never tapped out and hasn't lost a submission match. Stone Cold has, Angle has, but not Cena. Cena is superman and should be on this team.

Like I stated before I which Hogan could be just the leader and be like in a manager role because of all his injuries and that would let Cena or Styles or Sting a shot to be on the team.

Pretty sure we're going with wrestlers in their primes, so Hogan in his prime would be part of this team and would dominante in the ring.

 

[Xtreme_Animlas2314]

How isn't Cena a good submission wrestler? No one can get out of the STF, not even "great" submission wrestlers like Chris Jericho. In fact, the STF is probably the best submission move there is, it has stopped the likes of HHH, Big Show, Jericho, Orton, etc. The list goes on and on. However, the thing that sets Cena apart as a submission wrestler is the fact that he won't ever quit and has never tapped out and hasn't lost a submission match. Stone Cold has, Angle has, but not Cena. Cena is superman and should be on this team.

I still don't believe that is up there as a submission wrestler. Yes, the STF is a great hold but most likely any real true submission wrestler could find a way to get out of it. I mean guys that train to be the best submission wrestler like Bret Hart, Kurt Angle, Chris Jericho, Shelton Benjamin, Charlie Haas, Ric Flair*, Brock Lesnar*, Bobby Lesnar*, Chris Benoit, and etc. They drive to be the best in this field. If it was anything goes and no plan in the match which mean let anything goes and how it gets done. Then Cena would lose, I'm sorry. The guy is good but not that good. His only submission is move that I can see or maybe not looking to hard is the STF. Some of the guys I've mention only have one hold as well but they truly know how to work the guy down to be able to lock that move. Cena is not there yet. I'm probably going to hate to say this but if you can believe that Cena is that submission wrestler then you might as well say the Undertaker is one as well. He has the strengths and understanding of this skill but he knows that he isn't a submission wrestler. I agree with Cena being a brawler no doubt but a submission wrestler not yet. Of course it’s only my opinion!

Pretty sure we're going with wrestlers in their primes, so Hogan in his prime would be part of this team and would dominante in the ring.

thanks for clearing that up!

 

[Tenta]

How isn't Cena a good submission wrestler? No one can get out of the STF, not even "great" submission wrestlers like Chris Jericho. In fact, the STF is probably the best submission move there is, it has stopped the likes of HHH, Big Show, Jericho, Orton, etc. The list goes on and on. However, the thing that sets Cena apart as a submission wrestler is the fact that he won't ever quit and has never tapped out and hasn't lost a submission match. Stone Cold has, Angle has, but not Cena. Cena is superman and should be on this team.

Stone Cold has passed out in a submission match, to the best technical wrestler of all time. John Cena, meanwhile, has beaten such technicians as The Great Khali and Umaga. Spare me.

Anyway, Angle seems on lock for the submissions match. And, by the way, GD, you're wrong. Kurt Angle actually did make John Cena tap. No Mercy. 2003.

Foot, meet mouth.

 

[Coco]

See, that's what people forget about Cena. Pre-Mania 20, he wasn't unstoppable. In fact, No Mercy 2003 wasn't the only time Angle made him tap. There's also No Way Out 2004. Although since we're going with wrestlers in their primes, Cena's sort of learned to push through the pain over the years.

As for Austin... He's tapped out to the ankle lock too.

As for the greats Cena's made tap out... Triple H, Michaels, Benoit, and Jericho aren't enough for you? You shouldn't turn your nose up at him beating Umaga and Khali either. They were tough cookies when he got those wins. Exactly who else has gotten Khali to tap?

But all this protesting if for nothing now. The team is final.

At least I got RVD in this thing.

 

[Tenta]

No, those names are great, Coco. I never said I'd dislike Cena for a submissions match. My point is simple.... I dislike those that say John Cena never taps. Before Wrestlemania 20, this guy was very prone to tapping. Angle made him do it, I'm pretty sure Benoitr's made him do it, too.

When people say he's never tapped, I get annoyed. If you're going to go off seat of the pants remarks, I'm going to do everything I can to prove you wrong.

 

[IrishCanadian25]

Team Captain - Kurt Angle
Hulk Hogan
Rob van Dam
Shawn Michaels
Steve Austin


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[Mr. TM]

America is doomed. With Hulk Hogan only playing second fiddle, he will rather put his efforts into getting the C instead of winning his matches. Most likely he will walk out on his matches than wrestler knowing that he is not the number 1 man on the team. Also, with Kurt Angle in charge, he will work to keep the other posters down, especially RVD.

 

[gd]

Hogan definetly should have been the captain of this team when you're looking at all aspects. I'm not exactly sure what the role of the team captain is in this, but I don't think it'll really be a big deal. When it comes down to it, it's all about American pride, whcih Angle definetly stands for.

 

[IrishCanadian25]

Team U.S.A.​

Final Members​

Captain: Kurt Angle
Hulk Hogan
Steve Austin
Rob Van Dam
Shawn Michaels

1st alternate: John Cena
2nd Alternate: AJ Styles

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[D-Man]

Wow... RVD is on but Sting didn't make this team?!?! Not even as an alternate?!? WTF!?!?

Sting is easily one of the greatest American wrestlers to step foot inside of a ring. He's done WAY more than RVD could ever dream about doing in this business.

This is a total farce.

 

[IrishCanadian25]

Sting would have been next, actually, with 11 votes - still 4 behind Cena.

I think what hurt Sting a bit was the fact that he's not someone you'd really identify with the USA. Hogan, Austin, and Angle have done some sort of patriotic angle, whereas Sting hasn't to my knowledge. He put red, white, and blue face paint on once for the Great American Bash in WCW, but that's all.

I dunno, it's a tough call. I think I'd place Sting ahead of RVD, but the fact that a ladder match will be one of the events at the Wrestlezolympics gave the nod to guys like RVD and HBK.

 

[IrishCanadian25]

A terrific question was just asked - how do alternates get involved? Unfortunately, since this is a discussion thread in a non-spam zone, the question had to be deleted. Going forward, please either PM me questions or include them in a discussion post so you don't get hit for spamming.

To answer, there WILL be a chance mid-way through the tournament for alternates to get "tagged in." I will announce the rules for that in the coming weeks, but about half-way through, posters will have a chance to say "okay, this guy OUT, and this guy IN."

 

[IrishCanadian25]

Team USA

Kurt Angle
Hulk Hogan
Steve Austin
Rob Van Dam
Shawn Michaels

Individual Events - Round 1

Ironman (30, 45, 60 mins)
Submission
Falls Count Anywhere
Ladder / MITB Match
Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal

All posters may vote on which Team USA Wrestler competes in WHICH event. Only one wrestler to an event. If you vote on one, please vote on all 5. Votes must be posted, no poll will be added.

Do NOT spam in this thread. Don't simply list the wrestlers names next to the events. If youw ant to vote, you must provide at least one reason why you are voting for a particular wrestler to have a particular event. Otherwise, you will be hit for spamming, as this is a non-spam section.