Justice League Reviews: Here We Go Again!

SSJPhenom

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So early reactions to Justice League came out over the weekend as the social media embargo lifted and for the most part they're all very positive. What the majority of critics are saying is that the story for the movie has some flaws and the villain is flawed (every superhero movie it seems), but the characters were great, WW and Flash stole the show, it's a lot of fun, Aquaman is great, and this is the type of movie that DC should've been making from the start. It's an overall positive reaction and I can't wait to see it.
 
From what I've heard the tone etc. of the movie IS the sort of movie DC was making at the start (see Superman Returns) but at the time the reviewers were saying DC needs grittier, darker movies ala x-men. They did it and Marvel shifted focus.
 
Having seen the trailer, I can't say I'm especially excited.

A huge problem of the DC movies today is the LOOK. It's not just the movies are dark in tone, they are also dark in appearance. Zack Snyder insists on a dark color palette with boatloads and boatloads of CGI.

The only DC movie that I've really enjoyed since Snyder took over is Wonder Woman, and even it runs off the rails visually in the third act.
 
Perhaps if Whedon changed the tone of movie, maybe would be good. Snyder is great visual director, but cant tell a story if his life depends on it. So, change of director is maybe good thing.

Oh, and I wouldnt be relying on early reviews. All DC movies got positive early reviews and from all of them only Wonder Woman is OKish while the rest are pretty forgettable.
 
Perhaps if Whedon changed the tone of movie, maybe would be good. Snyder is great visual director, but cant tell a story if his life depends on it. So, change of director is maybe good thing.

I sincerely doubt that Whedon is going to take over a project from a director whose family member just died and completely change the creative direction of it.

Based on the last trailer I saw, I'm cautiously optimistic that it will be good. I don't think of him as a great storyteller, but Zack Snyder does have a knack for putting together good visuals, and I think the characters have the potential to have neat interactions.

It will probably be a slightly better than average superhero movie, which is all you can really hope for these days.
 
I sincerely doubt that Whedon is going to take over a project from a director whose family member just died and completely change the creative direction of it.

He already did take over and did some re-shots. Now, based on this its around 20% changed

http://www.gamesradar.com/how-much-did-joss-whedon-change-in-justice-league-wb-producer-says-15-20/

That is maybe about enough to make it cohesive which is probably more Snyder would did. Is it enough we would wait to see, I guess.
 
He already did take over and did some re-shots. Now, based on this its around 20% changed

http://www.gamesradar.com/how-much-did-joss-whedon-change-in-justice-league-wb-producer-says-15-20/

That is maybe about enough to make it cohesive which is probably more Snyder would did. Is it enough we would wait to see, I guess.

I knew he took over, I meant that he wouldn't take over and THEN completely change the direction away from Snyder's original vision for the film.
 
People are mad about the costumes for the Amazonian warriors. Clear differences from the designs between Wonder Woman and Justice League.

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The fetish pornstar look is Snyder's MO. Can't really be mad when Picasso paints weird women, ya know?
 
So it has a 51 on Metacritic. This isn't looking good. It's a better score than BvS and SS, however, it's not a good score. The thing about it, though, is that I just don't understand why. I mean, I'm literally seeing the same reviews that these same reviewers gave to Thor: Ragnarok and they loved that movie and are ragging on Justice League.

Literally, I'm seeing stuff like, "It's flawed and the villain is bad, but it's a lot of fun and entertaining and a fun ride. The characters are great together, blah blah blah". Same shit for Thor: Ragnarok but with this film it's consider bad. There might actually be a double standard for Marvel and DC films.
 
I have no interest in seeing the film, but you can have a solo superhero film be good with a weak villain. When you have multiple icon heroes team up, you need to have a strong bad guy for them to combat, and it needs to be well acted. One of the reason's that the original Avengers was so succesful and well received was due to how well Loki came off. He felt like a threat.
 
As I understand from reviews that 2 hour mark hurt the movie in a way of story and pacing. New characters feel rushed and generic CGI villain is there for a team to fight and that is it. Jahns and Stuckmann gave it a favorable review so it would probably be at least worth a watch in theater. But as things stand it would be mixed review with critics. Rumor has it WB even delayed RT score because of it.
 
I heard that RT delayed putting out their score because they have some new show or something on YouTube and they wanted to reveal it on there or something like that. From what I'm seeing, WB actually was opposed to this decision and had nothing to do with it.
 
Interestingly enough, I watched Batman v Superman two days ago, and hated it much less than I did upon release. Nowhere near great, but my dislike softened. If this is a financial disappointment, they should probably just kill all of it and start over in a few years.
 
If you watched the ultimate edition of BvS, your dislike softened because the ultimate edition is literally a totally different experience IMO. It's a much easier watch and it's a lot better. (I'll say this for all time)
 
The Ultimate version was worse, for me anyway. That was the version I really hated. Outside of TDKR, I don't ever need a 3 hour comic movie. Maybe the new Avengers movie, with their 50-75 character lineup.
 
I'm not entirely surprised it's getting a bad reception. Adding in that many big characters virtually all at once is almost never a good idea.
 
Does batman kill people in this one? How DC and warner brothers let that get through is beyond me and is the point that i stopped giving a fuck. In fairness i no longer give a fuck about Marvel either as every new character they bring in is identical in its formula
 
They should give the whole thing to Patty Jenkins. Wonder Woman was good (overrated, but good) and Warner Bros./DC would look fantastic putting a woman in that position.
 
43% on Rotten Tomatoes. As I said on the beginning, they always fall after first good initial reaction, same as BvS and SS. Though these are little more favorable but still even less then MoS RT score which isnt really a good thing for WB.
 
Man of Steel was twice the movie BvS was. I know people seemingly hate MoS, but I thought it was solid. It didn't look like a Snyder movie, which I liked. Too bad Nolan was done after that.
 

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