Idea for Bray Wyatt, the Rumble and possible Wrestlemania opponent.

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  1. Deoxyribonucleic A.C.I.D.

    Deoxyribonucleic A.C.I.D. Kamehamehaaaaa!!

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    Wrestlemania is like 100 days away. It's the time of the year where people are excited and try to figure out what the card is going to look like and what's going to happen during the build-up.
    Every year Bray Wyatt gets a special treatment at Wrestlemania as he faces a big name oppenent. At first it was John Cena and last year it was The Undertaker. Although Bray lost both feuds, you can't argue that these main event feuds have put Bray in a position at the top of the mid-card and he's considered one of the company's top names to lead the fututre.
    I believe that once again this year Bray will have that same treatment. But who does he face this year? Well, none other than The BEAST, Brock Lesnar.

    Why Lesnar?
    I know that a lot of you have this question, but if you think about it, this match-up makes sense given the position both men hold in the WWE. If you leave John Cena and The Undertaker out of this list, since they might be facing each other, Brock Lesnar and Roman Reigns and Dean Ambrose are your top 3 babyfaces. Triple H, Bray Wyatt and Kevin Owens are your top three heels. So, with Reigns and Triple H might also squaring off at Wrestlemania, we are left with two possible opponents for Brock Lesnar:
    a) Kevin Owens
    b) Bray Wyatt
    In my view, Bray Wyatt, who made his debut 2.5 years ago and have been involved with many big time feuds, is more qualified for the role of facing Lesnar at the big event than Owens, since I think that Bray is actually a bigger draw than Owens to the casual fan. This is Owens first Wrestlemania and I'd like for him to wrestle a more down to earth opponent, like Bryan (if he's there), or another face.
    (I know that one week ago I said I wouldn't mind Owens vs Lesnar, but I thought a story for Bray and Brock and plus my final card looks better with with that version.)
    Also, Lesnar has a limited schedule and I don't want to relive last year's Reigns vs Lesnar build-up. One year ago, Heyman and Bray Wyatt carried the build-up of their feuds all alone, with their impressive mic skills. This year, give them the same ring to really deliver amazing promo battles.

    How can Bray stand as a threat against the Beast?
    Tough question given the fact that Bray never defeated The Undertaker, the man whose streak Lesnar broke and also defeated him again this year inside the hell's cell. I have the answer.

    If plans have Triple H face Roman at Wrestlemania and Roman is the World Champ, does that mean that Hunter will win the Rumble? Not a bad idea given that he's the evil boss and all, but it's kinda boring and predictable and leaves the rest of the roster hangin'..
    Why not, do something different this year? Like Bray Wyatt winning the Rumble.

    The Royal Rumble (This is the build-up part)
    The entire Rumble and build-up are built around Brock Lesnar, who Paul Heyman announces that will be at the Rumble. A guy like Brock, in this match, tossing people around, that's gold. But there is also another force not to be reckoned with, The Wyatt Family. So what happens during the Rumble match? Lesnar is in there wrecking shit. The sacrificial lamp of the Wyatts, Eric Rowan appears holding a hammer sneaks on and attacks Heyman, then runs backstage. Lesnar leaves the ring (under the ropes of course) and chases Rowan backstage, where The Wyatts have set Lesnar up and attack him with foreign objects.
    Then the Wyatts make their entrances and start wrecking shit themeselves, working as a unit. However, The Beast makes his return in the ring and is more pissed than ever. This happens during the last minutes of the match. All chaos break lose with The Wyatts taking on Lesnar. In the final moments, Bray leaves the ring and grabs a steel chair. Lesnar is focused on taking out the other 2-3 three goons of the Wyatts. While Lesnar throws them over the top rope, Bray his the Beast with the chair and eliminates him, making him The Royal Rumble winner of 2016!

    What happens next
    We know that Bray is not going after the WWE World Heavyweight Championship, so Bray announces that he won because he wanted to prove that he's the real Beast, the real Face of Fear and that he stands heads and shoulders above everyone else on the roster. Of course this puts Lesnar on "Hunter" mode and Bray on the "Hunted" mode leading up to a big Beast vs Beast match at Wrestlemania.

    Why should Bray win the Rumble?
    Three reasons actually.
    A) So that Triple H does not win.
    B) To do something different with the Royal Rumble concept.
    C) To give him legitemacy leading up to the match with Lesnar. Winning the match makes him look special in comparison with the rest of the locker room and eliminating Lesnar actually makes him look special-er.

    That's my idea. Hope you like it and I'd like to hear your thoughts.
     
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  2. swallop

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    I mean it kinda defeats the whole purpose of the royal rumble. Plus it would make bray look like an idiot not wanting the top prize in the company. You can go with this idea but not have bray win. i like the thought of it. But bray winning then not wanting the title makes no sense.
     
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  3. Jack-Hammer

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    I have to agree with swallop as it really sort of defeats the purpose of the Royal Rumble; it's also a supreme pecker slap in the face of logic because who in their right mind is going to turn down an opportunity to become World Champion?

    The only way I could see this as being feasible is if both men are in the Royal Rumble match, one eliminates the other one resulting in the other climbing back into the ring & eliminating him in return or they manage to eliminate each other simultaneously. Immediately after, they begin brawling wildly with each other since they've each ruined the other's opportunity to headline WrestleMania and use this as a means to build up Lesnar vs. Wyatt for WrestleMania. I'd keep any sort of physicality between them to a bare minimum and have it mainly as a heated war of words between Heyman and Wyatt that escalates over the next few months with an occasional appearance by Lesnar to speak for himself that. Again, there's a heated war of words that breaks down into a near brawl each time only for the Family, Heyman and officials to keep them separated. Perhaps 2 weeks before WrestleMania, Wyatt takes it to the ultimate level by physically attacking Heyman and basically letting his family go to town on Heyman as well. Along the way, I'd have Wyatt bring up the fact that he's there each week, he doesn't deem it necessary to have anyone else do his speaking for him and that it's insulting that he speaks with Lesnar's keeper rather than the alleged "Beast" himself. For the go home Raw, Lesnar appears on Raw fuming and the two finally engage in a big brawl that goes on for maybe 15 minutes or so and ranges all over the place, resisting attempts to break it up, with Wyatt laughing maniacally once they finally do.

    To be perfectly honest, I'd rather see Lesnar put someone over at WrestleMania because, frankly, it's not as if he can become established to any greater degree. Even though he only wrestled a handful of times, he was still WWE World Heavyweight Champion for 7.5 months, he ended Taker's streak, he ultimately won his feud with Taker by beating him inside HIAC, he won the WWE WHC in the first place by handing John Cena the single most lopsided loss of his entire career. All of this, from a kayfabe perspective, can be applied also with the possibility that Lesnar would never have even lost the title at WrestleMania XXXI in the first place had not MITB be in play. Lesnar putting over a young, fresh face like Wyatt or Owens would catapult said fresh face into another level of standing on the roster and, in my opinion, that's something that WWE needs.
     
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  4. BenChillin

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    Reigns doesn't need to go in as champ to mania. I see HHH being the ref for Sheamus vs Reigns at the rumble, screwing him out the title, setting up Mania after another spear.
     
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  5. kadroan

    kadroan King Of The Ring

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    I wonder would he face Taker again. Bray and Kane are back in the ring together and after beating The Dudleyz over and over again, maybe Taker returns and squares off with Bray again.
     
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  6. J.J.

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    Bray needs Undertaker, he needs to go over. If this is Undertaker's last WM, allow Bray to get that much needed rub. A win over the Undertaker in a classic casket match to end his career would instantly solidify Wyatt as a main eventer. It'll eliminate the agony of him losing in feuds he should've went over in.
     
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  7. Vanilla Midget

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    I'm all for Wyatt vs Lesnar, but WrestleMania 32 isn't the time or place, nor is using the Royal Rumble win to get there. Having anyone use the Rumble win to get anything other than the World Heavyweight Championship undervalues the top prize in the company, it makes literally no sense whatsoever. It was bad enough in 2008 when Cena used his Rumble win to challenge Orton at the February PPV.

    Reigns vs Triple H will happen at the Royal Rumble, with a possible rematch at Fastlane. The only way I see Reigns vs Triple happening at Mania is if Reigns loses the title and wins the Rumble in one night. Reigns should not be facing a part timer at WrestleMania, even one that is on TV weekly.

    As for Wyatt vs Lesnar, bad timing. I don't think WWE is ready to give anyone that elusive pinfall victory over Lesnar, and Wyatt badly needs a win this year. He's winless at Mania, having lost to Cena and the Undertaker. Bray is supposed to be this scary figure, but he hasn't succeeded at the big dance. What's the logic in feeding him to another part timer in Lesnar?

    There's no need to do something different with the Rumble concept. It either is the way that the number one contender at WrestleMania is chosen, or it goes away completely. You can't have the winner flip the script, because what does that say? Anyone can get any match they want if they win the Royal Rumble? Facing Brock is not bigger than the World Heavyweight Championship.
     
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  8. KromyD

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    Bray going for Lesnar and not the title just yeah makes no sense tbh. Making it probably likely that since Reigns has already gone over and will probably beat Sheamus at RR means HHH takes it out and there we have the WM32 main event.

    However, i like your idea of Lesnar going thru some dramatic elimination to start his feud with his Wrestlemania opponent and for that reason alone i think it will most likely be Kevin Owens now. With the I.C strip on Ambrose and a feud beckoning there it doesnt appear outrageous that a Lesnar/Owens feud could happen, i think once all is confirmed with Daniel Bryan you could probably lock that match in along with Taker/Cena imo.
     
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  9. Sexcellence of Sexecution

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    Honestly I don't really think I'd like to see Bray vs. Brock at WrestleMania, as there are much better options for Brock Lesnar. The set up you proposed is alright I guess, but it wouldn't really get me all that interested or invested, and at the end of the day the Rumble could be used to set up other potential matches in better ways.

    But I don't just want to come here and shit on your proposal, I'll also provide an alternative proposal for Bray Wyatt at WrestleMania. Originally, like as in a year ago, I thought it would be Wyatt vs. Orton. The angle would be that Wyatt would see Orton as becoming complacent, and he would want to bring out the monster within. He would basically be trying to entice Orton into unleashing the Viper again. At WrestleMania, Wyatt would beat Orton, but after the match Orton would snap and absolutely destroy him, leaving him lying in the middle of the ring. This would give Wyatt a victory but also forward Orton's story and keep him looking strong. It would also perfectly lead to a Last Man Standing rematch. When Wyatt attacked Orton and he was written out with an injury I thought they would go down the Wyatt/Orton road for WrestleMania for sure, but apparently Orton is getting surgery and he's missing Mania altogether.

    So with Orton of the table for WrestleMania I really think the last thing to do is to turn Bray Wyatt babyface. I touched on this in another thread, but his heel persona has gotten boring and his schtick has been exhausted at this point. It's time to try something new and different. So my proposal is to have the Wyatt Family go babyface and take on the League of Nations in an 8-Man Tag Match. It would be pretty action packed, with a lot of good wrestlers involved, and in the end the Wyatts could go over. Long term, having a Wyatt babyface group doesn't make sense, so ultimately the Family has to turn against Bray. Have them absolutely destroy Bray with a vicious 3-on-1 assault, essentially making Bray a victim of what he has done to countless others. From there the Family could say that they are following a new leader, and you can build a mystery around this leader's identidy. You know, have an intriguing plot that actually builds from week to week. Crazy. Eventually, the greater power, I mean the new leader, reveals himself and it's *INSERT HEEL HERE* who goes on to feud with Bray Wyatt. If you really want to go the rehash route, make the new leader Triple H, and the Family can merge with the Authority. The Authority needs some more goons, so why not? Fuck it.
     
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  10. ShinChan

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    Yes! He really needs to beat Undertaker before Undertaker retires! I also want Bray to get the rub especially at Wrestlemania... and the idea of a casket match is awesome too... But If Bray defeats Undertaker, Brock will not remain the only one to beat Undertaker at WM so i cant see that happening though i want it to happen! Why not make Bray go over Undertaker at the Royal Rumble itself? And no for Brock VS Bray as then he will be 0-3 at Wrestlemania which i dont want!
    Wyatt Family VS LoN would be much better where Wyatt can win and Brock VS Kevin Owens... Just imagine the promos between Owens and Paul Heyman :rolleyes:
     
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  11. Stone Cold Tea

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    I may be in the minority here, but I just fail to see the attraction in Wyatt Vs Lesnar. Ones full of theatrics whilst the other is a wrecking machine. I don't feel like their styles would mesh well or there would be any chemistry.

    Also Bray Wyatt is a small little man compared to Lesnar. If he wasn't fat it might be easier to buy him as a threat but in my opinon he doesn't have the athleticism required to buy him as a believable threat to Lesnar as say a Kevin Owens or a Samoa Joe would.

    In my opinion Wyatt and Lesnar should be kept far far apart.
     
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  12. Deoxyribonucleic A.C.I.D.

    Deoxyribonucleic A.C.I.D. Kamehamehaaaaa!!

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    I agree to some extend that Bray not going after the title is stupid, but I honestly believe that this year there is no valuable full time roster superstar that has the "juice" needed to win the Rumble and headline Wrestlemania against another full time roster talent. Lesnar and Triple H are both part-timers and who wants to see Cena win the Rumble for the 3rd time? And personally, while Triple H or Lesnar winning the Rumble sounds like the right thing to do, it doesn't really excites me. That's why I got the idea of Bray winning. I also like to think his win as an Austin 1997 victory. Austin won The Rumble back then, but he never challenged for the title at Wrestlemania. I still can't understand to this day why Austin won and not The Undertaker, since Austin wasn't going after the title, but it's true that his Rumble victory gave the Bret Hart feud that extra needed spark, that turned their Wrestlemania match into a true spectacle.

    I guess Triple H could win the Rumble this year, I just think that Bray putting himself over the entire roster could also give his Lesnar feud a much needed spark just like Austin vs Bret.
     
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  13. Deoxyribonucleic A.C.I.D.

    Deoxyribonucleic A.C.I.D. Kamehamehaaaaa!!

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    Then who would you have going into Wrestlemania as the World Champ? Sheamus? And who would Sheamus face?
     
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  14. Deoxyribonucleic A.C.I.D.

    Deoxyribonucleic A.C.I.D. Kamehamehaaaaa!!

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    I guess Fast Lane would be a cool place to have Bray and Taker end their rivalry, with Bray getting the final match, before Taker moves on to Cena.
     
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  15. Radical

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    If WWE wants Bray Wyatt to really succeed as a long-time valuable character then Wyatt NEEDS a big win at WrestleMania 32. PERIOD.

    He missed his chance to beat Undertaker and beating Kane at WM 32 wouldn't really mean much at this point. He needs to defeat somebody that has a aura of darkness to them OR beat someone who is known to be very positive and has a huge fan following and defeat them and crush their spirit.

    Not sure who that would be, though ...
     
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  16. HORRORHOLIC

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    I'm all for Bray Wyatt vs Brock Lesnar. Not only would it seem fresh it would also be a hard hitting psychical match. Could you imagine Wyatt and Heyman on the mic ?
     
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  17. Deoxyribonucleic A.C.I.D.

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    WWE seems to be eager to give Reigns the Lesnar rub. That has been their plan for 2 years now. The reason they wanted that is becasue they wanted to capitalize on Lesnar's heat. However that heat is long gone and Lesnar is the biggest babyface in the company.

    Which brings me to my conclusion. If there's anyone that should get the rub from Lesnar, it's the next big heel. My two candidates at the moment for that are Bray and Owens. It's not necessary for them to win their match at Wrestlemania, but it's necessary to stand in the same ground as Lesnar and come out looking stronger, and definitely grabbing a victory over Lesnar in the future. And not that 2-1 for the babyface thing they'd been going, but a 1-1 result or a 2-1 result for the heel.
     
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    This is what I'd lean towards, but not a casket match. Closing a lid means far less than getting a pinfalls, even if it's an Undertaker signature match. Besides, rolling Undertaker away quietly is far less than he deserves in his hometown WrestleMania moment.

    If anything, I would like to see Bray go over Undertaker clean, and have a moment of respect from Taker. I don't know if it can be as straight forward as a handshake with those characters, but it could be. Two dramatic, larger than life characters having a very human handshake does make a statement in its own right. Alternatively, maybe it's vague and cryptic, left to our imagination. "Bray, Abigail would be proud..."

    Either way, it ends with Undertaker saying goodbye to Dallas and to a standing ovation on his own two feet.
     
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    Although this is a great idea on paper, I don't see it working out. There are numerous problems.

    1 - Why would Wyatt turn down a WWE Championship match?
    2 - Wyatt needs a big win, and he isn't going over Lesnar.
    3 - Lesnar wouldn't show up, so the build wouldn't be great.

    This would be like every other Wyatt feud. Extremely promising at first and great for two weeks. Then it becomes the same ridiculous promos until Wyatt finally loses the match. Repeat the same process until fans stop caring about Wyatt, and they stopped caring a long time ago.
     
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  20. BenChillin

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    Brock after he wins the Rumble. And has to deal with the League of Nations on the road to Mania.

    Garbage, I know. Anything with Sheamus is to me. But who's top heel now? Think about it.

    Plus if you're doing Reigns vs anyone but Triple H at Rumble, it has to be Sheamus. I mean, who else? And Sheamus first fought Reigns in TLC match, then a regular one on one the next night at Raw. So you can't get any "bigger' matches out of them so to further stretch out the odds against Reigns, you have the last rematch with HHH as the ref.
     
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  21. Kris Benwa

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    I pretty much feel this way. I'm trying to think of a better alternative for Wyatt though but the roster is so thin I don't see a singles match that makes sense. However I know Lesnar is not it
     
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