CelticCorey
Getting Noticed By Management
This topic is going off The Brain's topic of talent vs. gimmick. I'm going to expand it and take it a step farther. We all know the IWC in general can be a bunch of whiners. "Well Miz sucks in the ring, why is he champion?" "John Morrison is a spot monkey and he sucks on the mic, he shouldn't get a main event push." In the case of someone like PSPower from youtube, he doesn't cheer for anyone today because they don't have a great character or they don't have the look. I will go ahead and say you don't have to have everything, just have something, ANYTHING and I could get behind you.
Let's look at wrestling. Yes mic skills may get you farther but I prefer the matches themselves. Technically, if you think about it, in ring wrestling covers all three letters of the WWE.
World- Competitors from USA, Canada, Mexico, Across the Pond, Asia, compete all over the globe.
Wrestling- Duh
Entertainment- A great match can always be entertaining.
So that takes care of that. Now, I wouldn't turn to John Morrison or Dolph Ziggler to cut an amazing promo but I would turn to them for jaw dropping moments in the ring and because of that, I would be perfectly fine with them becoming champ. Someone on here or wrestlingforum, not sure, said his heel work as a singles competitor sucked. To each their own. I have said time and time again that he cut some good promos in ECW as champion. Both guys do a great job at selling and telling a story. Not to mention they are marketable and have terrific looks.
It's in TNA too. Max and Jeremy Buck- holy crap these guys blow on the mic. But you know what? They make up for that. They are outstanding in the ring and they are my second favorite tag team in all of wrestling behind MCMG. They find a way to entertain me.
Jack Swagger- The only thing I didn't enjoy about Swagger as champ was the way he was booked. When he cut promos in ECW, I cringed. He did get somewhat better on the mic as champ. But it was the content of his promos I loved. Some people think Swagger is decent in the ring at best? Seriously? If I did a list of the top ten in ring wrestlers in WWE today, Swagger is on that list. He just might even be in the top five. And before he got the strap, he was someone I would've loved to become champ. Why? Because of his amazing wrestling skills.
Ken Shamrock- some will call me crazy but I am sad he never became WWF champ. He was awful at promos but he just screamed badass. He put on great matches and his look and character was AWESOME. If he came to RAW this Monday and made Cena tap like a little bitch, I would be marking so hard.
Now let's take a look at promos and mic skills.
Ultimate Warrior was awful in the ring and I think that's one of the reasons some may be against his H.O.F. inclusion. But you know, he found a way to entertain me in other facets. His bizarre promos, his character, his look, his running down to the ring, he was a freak of nature and he found a way to get me to like him even if he was garbage in the ring.
Mr. Anderson- someone in the Bully Ray thread in the TNA forum said that Mr. Anderson should go nowhere near a mic. Seriously? That's all this guy has. He isn't Warrior bad in the ring but he is no Doug Williams or AJ Styles either. Therefore, he cuts entertaining promos and makes me laugh. He is gold on the mic. Even when he is pissed like a mofo he still makes me laugh. Not to mention I like this tweener Anderson who mic checks everything in sight and won't stop until he gets his rematch. Wikipedia says he has turned heel. But the crowd sure hasn't given him the heel treatment. He is a TWEENER. IMO the best faces are the ones that don't need to suck up to the crowd. Sometimes he plays to them but he doesn't suck up for a cheap pop. He wants his rematch.
He was great in WWE as Mr. Kennedy but he is 100 times funnier in TNA as Mr. Anderson and he has gotten over with me even more. I mean it could be worse- he could be Gunner, Murphy or Rob Terry in the ring but he's not the greatest in ring competitor in the world. But give him a microphone and that's why I marked so hard and wanted him as TNA champ. Hence my utter disappointment at Against All Odds.
The Miz- Now the Miz has gotten better. But he has made me care about him. I like Miz and Anderson because they can be comical and entertain me. I would like to see more entertaining characters in the main event. Not Santino comedy or Long Island Loud Mouth comedy but Miz and Anderson make me laugh and still can be taken seriously. Some hate this but I love it. The Miz, despite what some say, is gold on the mic and has entertaining segments. He's made it up to me.
And notice how I said Long Island Loud Mouth and not Zack Ryder. Ryder needs a makeover. I have read a couple posts who think Zack Ryder should've gotten pushed instead of Miz. As his current character, I wouldn't take him seriously if he became WWE champion. But I am a fan of his mic skills and is criminally underrated in the ring. If you gave Zack Ryder a make over persona, I could see him being something. If Miz with HOORAH and the mohawk became WWE champ, he'd look out place just like if Ryder won it now. But a makeover could do wonders for someone.
Characters- if you get a proper character and play it well, that helps too. Like I said in the Brain thread, Cody Rhodes turned me into a fan because he took a shitty gimmick and played it like gold. That got me over and I'll be disappointed we won't be seeing a Dashing World Heavyweight Champion. He'll likely win it with something else.
It was the rapper gimmick that got me over with Cena. THAT was the Cena I wanted as WWE champion. But when he left it, I left his fanbase. Now when he raps he looks out of place. The jean shorts and rapping don't fit his character. It fit the Dr. of Thuganomics though. He found a way to be entertaining and make me laugh and still be a threat. Now though *roll eyes*
Same thing in TNA. Do you think prior to these last few months I gave a rats ass about Brother Ray or Bully Ray? No. But you know what, he became Bully Ray and slowly, overtime, he won me over. Now he entertains me. I can't believe this. I NEVER thought I would say this, but fucking Bubba Ray Dudley has found a way to make me care about him to the point I wouldn't be opposed to him becoming a World champion. In all the years I have watched wrestling, I never EVER thought I would type what I just typed about that man.
But it's a two way street. Look at Drew McIntyre or Matt Morgan. These guys have marketbale looks; but neither of them do it for me. I'm not looking forward to a McIntyre promo or a McIntyre match unless he's against someone really good. I'm not a fan of Morgan and don't really understand what there is to like about him. You guys like Morgan and McIntyre? Fine. I really don't care for them. All I am saying.
So what I am saying is this: You don't have to be the whole package. You don't need to be Shawn Michaels. You could have great ring skills and be shit on the mic and I could get behind you or vice versa. All I am saying is if you entertain me. Somehow, someway in any way, shape or form, chances are, I WILL get behind you. The exception to this seems to be Wade Barrett- gold on the mic. I don't hate him and won't complain when he wins the strap but there are many I would want to become WHC or WWE champ before him.
But being an all around performer can get me to like you even more. Look at Owen Hart. Some say he wasn't title material, he had it all. Great heel. And Bret said Owen was a better athelete, I agree. Owen > Bret. Owen was a great promo cutter and I'd rather watch an Owen match than a Bret match. Yes I said it. Owen was gold in the ring and when I saw the match at WM 10, I enjoyed Owen's work more than I enjoyed Bret's work.
Not everybody is going to be great at everything. If they are really good at something, I'll like them. I see no reason why others can't think this way either.
Let's look at wrestling. Yes mic skills may get you farther but I prefer the matches themselves. Technically, if you think about it, in ring wrestling covers all three letters of the WWE.
World- Competitors from USA, Canada, Mexico, Across the Pond, Asia, compete all over the globe.
Wrestling- Duh
Entertainment- A great match can always be entertaining.
So that takes care of that. Now, I wouldn't turn to John Morrison or Dolph Ziggler to cut an amazing promo but I would turn to them for jaw dropping moments in the ring and because of that, I would be perfectly fine with them becoming champ. Someone on here or wrestlingforum, not sure, said his heel work as a singles competitor sucked. To each their own. I have said time and time again that he cut some good promos in ECW as champion. Both guys do a great job at selling and telling a story. Not to mention they are marketable and have terrific looks.
It's in TNA too. Max and Jeremy Buck- holy crap these guys blow on the mic. But you know what? They make up for that. They are outstanding in the ring and they are my second favorite tag team in all of wrestling behind MCMG. They find a way to entertain me.
Jack Swagger- The only thing I didn't enjoy about Swagger as champ was the way he was booked. When he cut promos in ECW, I cringed. He did get somewhat better on the mic as champ. But it was the content of his promos I loved. Some people think Swagger is decent in the ring at best? Seriously? If I did a list of the top ten in ring wrestlers in WWE today, Swagger is on that list. He just might even be in the top five. And before he got the strap, he was someone I would've loved to become champ. Why? Because of his amazing wrestling skills.
Ken Shamrock- some will call me crazy but I am sad he never became WWF champ. He was awful at promos but he just screamed badass. He put on great matches and his look and character was AWESOME. If he came to RAW this Monday and made Cena tap like a little bitch, I would be marking so hard.
Now let's take a look at promos and mic skills.
Ultimate Warrior was awful in the ring and I think that's one of the reasons some may be against his H.O.F. inclusion. But you know, he found a way to entertain me in other facets. His bizarre promos, his character, his look, his running down to the ring, he was a freak of nature and he found a way to get me to like him even if he was garbage in the ring.
Mr. Anderson- someone in the Bully Ray thread in the TNA forum said that Mr. Anderson should go nowhere near a mic. Seriously? That's all this guy has. He isn't Warrior bad in the ring but he is no Doug Williams or AJ Styles either. Therefore, he cuts entertaining promos and makes me laugh. He is gold on the mic. Even when he is pissed like a mofo he still makes me laugh. Not to mention I like this tweener Anderson who mic checks everything in sight and won't stop until he gets his rematch. Wikipedia says he has turned heel. But the crowd sure hasn't given him the heel treatment. He is a TWEENER. IMO the best faces are the ones that don't need to suck up to the crowd. Sometimes he plays to them but he doesn't suck up for a cheap pop. He wants his rematch.
He was great in WWE as Mr. Kennedy but he is 100 times funnier in TNA as Mr. Anderson and he has gotten over with me even more. I mean it could be worse- he could be Gunner, Murphy or Rob Terry in the ring but he's not the greatest in ring competitor in the world. But give him a microphone and that's why I marked so hard and wanted him as TNA champ. Hence my utter disappointment at Against All Odds.
The Miz- Now the Miz has gotten better. But he has made me care about him. I like Miz and Anderson because they can be comical and entertain me. I would like to see more entertaining characters in the main event. Not Santino comedy or Long Island Loud Mouth comedy but Miz and Anderson make me laugh and still can be taken seriously. Some hate this but I love it. The Miz, despite what some say, is gold on the mic and has entertaining segments. He's made it up to me.
And notice how I said Long Island Loud Mouth and not Zack Ryder. Ryder needs a makeover. I have read a couple posts who think Zack Ryder should've gotten pushed instead of Miz. As his current character, I wouldn't take him seriously if he became WWE champion. But I am a fan of his mic skills and is criminally underrated in the ring. If you gave Zack Ryder a make over persona, I could see him being something. If Miz with HOORAH and the mohawk became WWE champ, he'd look out place just like if Ryder won it now. But a makeover could do wonders for someone.
Characters- if you get a proper character and play it well, that helps too. Like I said in the Brain thread, Cody Rhodes turned me into a fan because he took a shitty gimmick and played it like gold. That got me over and I'll be disappointed we won't be seeing a Dashing World Heavyweight Champion. He'll likely win it with something else.
It was the rapper gimmick that got me over with Cena. THAT was the Cena I wanted as WWE champion. But when he left it, I left his fanbase. Now when he raps he looks out of place. The jean shorts and rapping don't fit his character. It fit the Dr. of Thuganomics though. He found a way to be entertaining and make me laugh and still be a threat. Now though *roll eyes*
Same thing in TNA. Do you think prior to these last few months I gave a rats ass about Brother Ray or Bully Ray? No. But you know what, he became Bully Ray and slowly, overtime, he won me over. Now he entertains me. I can't believe this. I NEVER thought I would say this, but fucking Bubba Ray Dudley has found a way to make me care about him to the point I wouldn't be opposed to him becoming a World champion. In all the years I have watched wrestling, I never EVER thought I would type what I just typed about that man.
But it's a two way street. Look at Drew McIntyre or Matt Morgan. These guys have marketbale looks; but neither of them do it for me. I'm not looking forward to a McIntyre promo or a McIntyre match unless he's against someone really good. I'm not a fan of Morgan and don't really understand what there is to like about him. You guys like Morgan and McIntyre? Fine. I really don't care for them. All I am saying.
So what I am saying is this: You don't have to be the whole package. You don't need to be Shawn Michaels. You could have great ring skills and be shit on the mic and I could get behind you or vice versa. All I am saying is if you entertain me. Somehow, someway in any way, shape or form, chances are, I WILL get behind you. The exception to this seems to be Wade Barrett- gold on the mic. I don't hate him and won't complain when he wins the strap but there are many I would want to become WHC or WWE champ before him.
But being an all around performer can get me to like you even more. Look at Owen Hart. Some say he wasn't title material, he had it all. Great heel. And Bret said Owen was a better athelete, I agree. Owen > Bret. Owen was a great promo cutter and I'd rather watch an Owen match than a Bret match. Yes I said it. Owen was gold in the ring and when I saw the match at WM 10, I enjoyed Owen's work more than I enjoyed Bret's work.
Not everybody is going to be great at everything. If they are really good at something, I'll like them. I see no reason why others can't think this way either.
