How to fix Bray Wyatt

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  1. SmattyG

    SmattyG Pre-Show Stalwart

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    I love Bray Wyatt. His first half a dozen promos were gold. I don't need to recap how he has lost most of his major feuds since debuting on the main roster.

    I would love Bray to shut up for a year. I'd like him to come out in the middle of an IC title match and lure Bo and Axel away. It's Ministry of Darkness II - I get that...

    Bray could mysteriously appear on Smackdown, and force Shane to give up Harper and Rowan. The new Wyatt Family could eventually feud with new Universal Champion Braun Strowman, as they have history. Wyatt does just spooky stuff and never speaks.

    Bray could have a number of spooky promos and eventually speak again after he beats Strowman for the title. It'd be even better if Strowman aligns with Wyatt after the match.

    Probably a bobbins idea, but SOMETHING has to rescue Wyatt...
     
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  2. Da Prophet

    Da Prophet Mid-Card Championship Winner

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    Wyatt needs to lose weight.

    He's fat.

    Been fat for ages. He looked really out of place on the WrestleMania poster alongside Orton, Lesnar and Goldberg. He doesn't look like an athlete and is hard to take seriously which turns off fans. It's impossible to take Wyatt seriously when put next to the likes of Orton when one looks like a super athlete and the other is clearly overweight.

    At the end of the day, this is supposed to be a sporting event. When an athlete looks out of shape they fail to draw the interest of fans and ownership, along with not having credibility since he looks outmatched due to his weight.

    Finally, we know Vince has an image of what a superstar looks like yet Wyatt has remained fat for years. It's his fault he isn't a star. Should've sorted his weight out since his boss has made it clear that the best looking athletes get to the top.

    So long as Wyatt remains fat none of these spooky storylines are going to do anything for him.
     
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  3. Big Nick Dudley

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    Wyatt has a couple of problems. First, he does not live his gimmick. He plays the character on TV but is all over social media as himself. A gimmick like his needs 100% dedication in 2017. He hasn't fully bought in.

    His second issue isn't his fault. WWE's generic, boring writing team has no idea how to help this guy. His cult leader character could dominate Raw for years. Maybe they aren't impressed with him, who knows. Either way, that character is being flushed down the toilet.
     
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  4. Y 2 Jake

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    I think it's pretty simple, turn him face. Maybe stop the meandering promos and let him win more.

    You're either on board with the character or not.
     
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  5. Big Nick Dudley

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    He should definitely win more. And by more, I mean a shit ton. I wouldn't turn him face. Instead, I would give him interesting material, something they have shown themselves to be nearly incapable of doing for at least two years now. Needless to say I don't have much faith.
     
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  6. Psykohurricane55

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    The reason Bray wyatt hasn't worked has a character is because everybody knows that he'S just playing a character on t.v. The guys is really good at playing the character but this is the kind of character that you need to play in and out of the ring.

    First of all, i guy like bray wyatt, shouldn't be a social media at all and if he his, he should be as the character not as himself. It's like if undertaker would come out to the ring and do his thing and then come backstage and go to facebook or twitter and post something as mark calloway. Same thing here, how can you believe that bray wyatt is a cult leader when he himself doesn't believe he's a cult leader.

    Secondly, the guy really need to modfiy what he's does in the ring. The reason a lot of his feud failed wasn'T because of his mic work but because of his in ring performance. He got feuds with all the top stars in the WWE and they we're all boring to watch and that's more on Bray then anything else because if you look at the list of guys he feuded with, all thoses guys can have great performance and entertaining feud with other performers but for some reason, when they get stuck with Wyatt, the matches are boring. That's not the creative team's fault if this happens, it's bray because he always do the same stuff and it's boring stuff. He's pretty much in the same boat as dean ambrose in my opinion. 2 guys that are lazy and are satisfied by doing the same old boring shit over and over again. it's sad but that what's going on.

    Their no real way to fix bray if bray is happy with how his character is going. The only way to fix Bray is for Bray to start living the gimmick and take some change by doing different thing instead of his same old routine.
     
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  7. Jeff Deliverer of Mail

    Jeff Deliverer of Mail Money for nothin, chicks for free
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    Like was mentioned a hundred times before, he should be mind controlling folks. His gimmick screams mind fucker so why not have a zombiefied following until a big heroic wrestler takes them down. They tinkered with it off and on but never went full ****** with the angle like they should.
     
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  8. George Steele's Barber

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    Wyatt's best run was during the time he had Orton on his side. He was a cult leader with a big prize. That means more than wins and losses for Bray. Bray is coming off what should be a huge win over Rollins but here we are again trying to fix him. Give him the back up and he is helped.

    The other way he become more legit is if he actually starts hurting or scaring people. Sure he wins a match or two but is anyone that afraid anymore. Maybe they are, I tend to not listen or I fast forward through his segments.

    So in summary, give him followers, enough with what I assume are still the same monotonous promos, and have him hurt and/or scare people.

    At least his visuals with the lantern and fireflies are still cool.
     
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  9. Fire Marshall Bill

    Fire Marshall Bill Let me show ya somethin!!!

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    He was more over than he's ever been during his brief face run. I think it would've helped him a lot had he not gotten injured shortly after. Then they returned him as a heel and he's been in limbo ever since.
     
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  10. Wrestlingaholic

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    I don't get the whole, "he doesn't live his gimmick" thing. Kayfabe is dead, and has been for 20 years. The world is fully aware that wrestling is just acting, and the set is a wrestling ring.

    Do we think that the Irish kid who played Joffrey, or Iwan Rheon who plays Ramsay Bolton, both in Game of Thrones, should act like selfish, sadistic individuals in real life and especially on social media? Of course not. Does the fact the actors who portray the characters do not "live their gimmicks" affect how we see them in Game of Thrones? Of course not. So WHY should it matter in professional wrestling?
     
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  11. MoRtAnDaD

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    Turn him face. Well not exactly face, more like an anti-hero, like taker. Keep the cult leader, mad ideas, but have him beat top heels, and somehow helping faces, and winning more matches.
     
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  12. Spidercanrana

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    There's no such thing as living a gimmick anymore. Undertaker kissed his wife and Kane is a politician. People know it's all a show. If they want to keep the facade alive that he's some hippie devil cult guy, maybe they should leave his Twitter alone. It's our own faults if we go digging for information on the man behind the character.

    I agree his face run was going well and a return to that would be cool. Maybe some more backstory that ISN'T stealing from a supernatural horror movie would be great, too. I loved the Mansonesque cultist Bray Wyatt and wish he'd be more like that guy. Since he's about his Wyatt Family, maybe have someone other than a dude in his posse would look good, too. It's turned into a real sausage fest. I remember his old vignettes had dirty hippie chicks climbing trees and whatnot. It's a cult, right? So where are all those other members who don't look like jacked up ZZ Top members? Having women in his group could really change the dynamic up a ton. I'm not saying creative should go all Sister Abigail here, but there are only so many times Bray can introduce or work with a bearded bodybuilder before it gets old.
     
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  13. Wildcat66

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    Am I the only one who thinks he should bring Elias Sampson on board as his protégé? He could teach him everything he knows about dark magic. It may not completely fix all of Wyatt's problems, but it's a start.

    But if i'm being honest; I am one of the very few people who didn't think Wyatt would ever really be the next Undertaker; let alone be a full time main eventer so, i'm probably not the best person to answer this question.
     
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  14. Navi

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    For one lose the cult leader aspect of his character. He has had followers, got them back and lost them again. In retrospect he's a bad cult leader and that part of the gimmick is over, kayfabe or not it's just not believable anymore.

    Also please stop this random meandering in and out of feuds for no reason at all. Just recently he was involved with Rollins, it would appear that is over. Now it's Balor. Well this might have some legs to it. I would love to see Wyatt channel Sister Abigail and Balor bring out the demon to defeat her. That would be one hell of a fight.

    Again with the Sister Abigail stuff, she is mentioned, he digs in the dirt to consume her spirit or some sort of hocus pocus like that, and it is never brought up again. Either run with it or don't bother at all.

    They haven't known how to book Wyatt since he debuted that is obvious, so either find someone that can book this character probably or change it up. Shame really he has one of the most unique characters on the roster and they just can't handle it.
     
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  15. Spencesc11

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    Have him take the I-C Title from The Miz by having his brother (Bo Dallas) & Curtis Axel flip sides and join Wyatt. Then add in Elias Sampson since he needs a stable like this to stay relevant. And you have your perfect mid-card heel stable.
     
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  16. OYDK

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    They should just go the Crow Sting route with Wyatt. Have him disappear for a couple of months after Summerslam and then start laying people out randomly. No talking, just showing up in the middle of matches after a blackout and Sister Abigailing hoes left and right. Have him recruit an army over a few months and appear in random places (the rafters, above the titantron, etc.) throughout the weeks. Paint him as a face and build towards a big angle for Mania.

    Why not? It's been forever since that angle has been recreated and it would work fine with Bray.
     
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  17. Jack-Hammer

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    Good points.

    This isn't 1985 where kayfabe is still strong. Even the Undertaker doesn't and never really did "live" his gimmick. Kayfabe is dead, the internet is what killed it and social media keeps it from any sort of revival. Bray Wyatt doesn't live in some run down shack in the middle of the Florida swamps, you don't need social media or even the dirt sheets to tell you that. The spirit of a dead woman named Abigail doesn't help guide his actions and, again, you don't have to use Twitter or listen to Dave Meltzer to know it.

    Wyatt's problem, in my opinion, is that Vince ultimately just doesn't see him as a main event level player. MAYBE if he disappeared for 6 months and returned with a six pack and single digit body fat, that could change because Vince puts a lot of stock into physical appearance.
     
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  18. BestSportsEntertainer

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    Oh dear God...

    That Big Show guy turned out to be nothing. What about Andre the Giant? Vader? Total scrubs...
     
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  19. Da Prophet

    Da Prophet Mid-Card Championship Winner

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    Vader never had the success in WWE that he had elsewhere. Wyatt isn't elsewhere, he is in WWE. Vader was shoved to the side for Shawn Michaels, who looked like a million bucks and was clearly the superior athlete. Vince, the boss, doesn't want fat guys. Wyatt is a fat guy. Vader was a fat guy. Neither have had sustained success in WWE. Nice try though.

    Big Show and Andre are the examples people who can't actually defend Wyatt bring up. Big Show and Andre are once in a generation type figures. They had a disease which changed the structured of their bodies to something out of a superhero comic book. They were/are larger than life and not what you normally see due to their height and size. And in 2006 when Big Show was at his heaviest guess what he did? He took a year off to lose weight and got put in one of the biggest angles of that year upon his return against Mayweather. Since that point Big Show has focused on losing more weight which shows that it's rather important.

    Wyatt is just fat. He is nothing like Big Show or Andre. Stop comparing them. It's stupid. Wyatt is not seven feet tall. He isn't a giant. It's two completely different things. Wyatt is an average sized man who has a gut and is fat.
     
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  20. d_henderson1810

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    I always thought that a good way to make Bray a "face", without him losing his edge, is to have him feud with the Authority.

    Have the Authority push everyone around again, but have Bray show that he isn't afraid of Triple H, and asks him what can Triple H actually do to him?

    By standing up to Triple H (a hated heel), it would establish Bray as an anti-hero, like a "Stone Cold" Steve Austin type, and you could even have it lead to a Bray Wyatt vs Triple H match at Wrestlemania or Summerslam.
     
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  21. d_henderson1810

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    How people here say that Wyatt needs new followers, and bring up Bo, Curtis or Elias.

    Hey, I don't have a problem with that, but, I have a couple of better followers for Bray, and it would solve another problem WWE faces as well. Kill two birds with one stone.

    Have Bray introduce his new converts- THE HARDY BOYS!

    There are plenty of places to go with this. Have the Hardys be "Broken" after they constantly miss out on the Tag belts held by Cesaro and Sheamus.

    This allows Bray to recruit them.

    By doing this, you can still have "Broken" Matt Hardy and Brother Nero, without having to get the copyright off TNA. Don't use the term "Broken" or "Brother Nero", but have the Hardys be "brainwashed" by Bray, and start doing weird things.

    You could even have them have a match on PPV, inside a ring on the Wyatt compound (AKA a nod to "The Final Deletion"), and have Harper and Rowan even come back and challenge the Hardys.

    This would strengthen Bray, and be able to use the Hardys as the fans want, without having to pay TNA. As long as there are nods to "The Broken Universe" without a direct rip-off, then WWE should be okay. Also, there is months of storyline in this, which will allow time for WWE to buy the "Broken Universe" rights (or by TNA themselves), and then have the "Broken Universe" take birth inside the Wyatt Family.
     
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  22. d_henderson1810

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    How people here say that Wyatt needs new followers, and bring up Bo, Curtis or Elias.

    Hey, I don't have a problem with that, but, I have a couple of better followers for Bray, and it would solve another problem WWE faces as well. Kill two birds with one stone.

    Have Bray introduce his new converts- THE HARDY BOYS!

    There are plenty of places to go with this. Have the Hardys be "Broken" after they constantly miss out on the Tag belts held by Cesaro and Sheamus.

    This allows Bray to recruit them.

    By doing this, you can still have "Broken" Matt Hardy and Brother Nero, without having to get the copyright off TNA. Don't use the term "Broken" or "Brother Nero", but have the Hardys be "brainwashed" by Bray, and start doing weird things.

    You could even have them have a match on PPV, inside a ring on the Wyatt compound (AKA a nod to "The Final Deletion"), and have Harper and Rowan even come back and challenge the Hardys.

    This would strengthen Bray, and be able to use the Hardys as the fans want, without having to pay TNA. As long as there are nods to "The Broken Universe" without a direct rip-off, then WWE should be okay. Also, there is months of storyline in this, which will allow time for WWE to buy the "Broken Universe" rights (or by TNA themselves), and then have the "Broken Universe" take birth inside the Wyatt Family.
     
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  23. sikkbones

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    Jeff hardy with a backwoods beard... I don't see it...

    However that would make perfect sense for matt...

    Wonderful...
     
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  24. ShinChan

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    It's pretty simple. Book him properly. He's a talented wrestler. Not "fat" by any measure. Saying "fat" again and again won't change the reality. Jinder Mahal is champion because of relationship with India. Not just his looks. Besides, character like Bray Wyatt suits the look that he has already.

    Only and only problem is his booking. He has an awesome unique character. All he needs is booking in a proper way.
     
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  25. Papa Pillman

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    Here's an idea- people want to cheer the Bray Wyatt character. Tweak him into an anti-"the machine" babyface, it's a way better fit for the character right now.
     
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