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I like John Cena the man. I do not like John Cena the onscreen character a lot. Nor the wrestler for that matter. However this year I have found myself more emotionally invested in John Cena's character than I have ever since he became a main eventer.
Every year it was more or less the same deal. Cena held on to the WWE Championship and was challenged by the challenger for the month. Even if the challenger won the belt Cena would get it back after one month and the feud would end there and Cena would proceed to the next guy.
All this while his promos did not help a lot either. He always talked about facing daunting challenges and never giving up but in my opinion the guy who really had the daunting task was the guy who faced John Cena in a match because John Cena almost never lost.
But this year things have been different. Cena, it seems, has finally met his match in the Nexus. Granted its a stable of seven guys against one but still it is something. Going by Cena's previous feuds Nexus should have been done and dusted by now but that seems to be quite far from the truth. For the first time in ages has someone enjoyed such domination over Cena for such a long time.
This has probably been Cena's best feud till date and that is quite an achievement because Cena is someone who has had feuds with the best in the business like Angle, Jericho, HBK, HHH, Edge and Orton to name a few.
All of a sudden those catchphrases of Cena like "Never Give Up" and "This is all I've got", which I disliked so much, mean something.
The people involved with the business say that the babyface is at his best when he is chasing the title. Thats exactly what Cena is doing now that he hasn't done before.
So the question I'm putting out to you guys is:
Has this been Cenas best year since he started main eventing? If not what has been and why?
Small quibble, but Cena is one of the best wrestlers in the business. He's been the best on screen persona since 2005, whether it was his "rapper", "hustle loyalty respect", "or "his never give up" persona. He took that gimmick and ran with it, and was fantastic at each.
Not exactly. After he defeated Edge at Unforgiven 06 in a TLC match, he held the title for over a year. He defeated Edge in a Steel Cage match to retain, then defeated the undefeated Umaga twice, the second at the Royal Rumble in a LMS match. He then tuened aside HBK at WM 23, won a fatal four way against HBK, Edge, and Orton, then a champions challenge match against Lashley, Orton, Foley, and Booker. He then defeated Lashley at The Bash, and Orton at Summerslam in singles matches respectively, and retained against Orton at Unforgiven. He never even lost the title, he held it for over a year before being injured and forced to surrender it. Thats quite a year.
Cena actually lost quite a bit. He was pinned by JBL, Carlito of all people, and Khali, to name a few. Hell, Kevin Federline pinned him on New Years Day in 2007!
I agree, but he went back and forth with Orton last year, losing several times to him, including NOC, Summerslam, and Hell in a Cell. The only matches he won, honestly, fit his character. And he lost the title to Sheamus, and he's yet to defeat him. He hasn't been invincible as one may think.
And Cena held his own with each of those men. None of those men carried Cena in their matches, Cena was close to being their equal, especially from 2007 and beyond. Those feuds he had helped establish John Cena as the "Hustle Loyalty and Respect guys, and cemented his gimmick. While this has been a great feud, his best feud to date has been with Edge, in my opinion.
What? Cena hasnt chased the title before? Short memory, I guess, because he had last chance matches where if he lost he would leave Raw in a TLC match with Edge, and in an Ironman match with Orton, both of whom had defeated Cena on numerous occasions.
No way. That would be 2007, when he turned back every challenger he faced, in every type of match imaginable. Not only that, but he shined in each of those matches. The storylines were great, and Cena's promos were phenomenal and intense, and helped propel him to this current gimmick that has made him the top star in the company.
While this Nexus angle has been well done, and Cena has been great, he's used the same gimmick he always has. That, and he's wrestles far less, which has given him less chances to shine. Has Cena helped make Barrett a star? Absolutely. I understand what youre saying, that this has been a great angle, and Cenas played his part to perfection. But he shined in every way possible in 2007, whether it be with his in-ring performance, his promos, or his feuds with his opponents. Its not even close, really.
I know that Cena is a good wrestler but there are quite a few guys who do not like his on screen character, and I guess I can state my opinion here.
You proved my point better than I did. What I meant was that Cena during this period of his career proceeded from one feud to another without losing a single one of them. The fact that he talked about never giving up and faacing daunting tasks seemed lame because he seemed to be the dominant force rather than his opponent. His catchphrases did not connect with me. The best way to book a babyface is to book the heel as the dominant force.
To book the babyface as vulnerable but not neccesarily weak. That is when the fans sypmathize with the face. And wasn't it in 2006 that Cena was booed out of the building at One Night Stand against RVD. Titles are OK but what makes or breaks this business is crowd reaction. How can a face, let alone the face of a company, justify this type of reaction?
And won the rematches a month later. No one has dominated Cena for a long time except Nexus. And Carlito defeaated him in Cena's US Championship days. I can't remember him defeating Cena as a maineventer though I may be wrong.
Yes he went back and forth. Should I forget that he said that there would be no rematches against Orton after HIAC and yet they had a match at the very next PPV just for Cena to win the title? Even Cena said that he accidentally fell through a table during his match with Sheamus. Way to make Sheamus look dominant. I do find these inconsistencies a bit troubling. Also the fact is he went back and forth with Orton. Every time Orton won, Cena won the next match to even things up. That isn't what I call domination.
I'm sure I never talked about his matches being carried. I did talk about his feuds being one-dimensional. It helped establish the formula for Cena's future feuds.
He was chasing the title? Sure, he was chasing one he had lost a month ago. Even in Edge's case it was a title he had lost only two months ago. Those are two occasions in a five year career. Certainly beats Austin chasing the title for five months.
He had great matches in 2007 but all his feuds were one -dimensional. The soul of pro wrestling is the conflict between a face and a heel and in 2007 there was no conflict. Cena won, each and every time bar a few occasions. The promos were good but not justified. He cannot talk about facing a daunting task when he wins all the time.
Nexus has won quite a lot against Cena. He looks vulnerable for the first time in his career. Have you ever heard the crowd chant "Never Give Up" before this feud for Cena? Even Cena acknowledged it. There are very few mixed reactions from the crowd these days when Cena comes out. Its mostly pops. That is why I think this is Cena's best feud and his best year.
Well, because in this match, RVD was the face, and Cena was the heel. He taunted the crowd, could be audibly heard mocking RVD in quite non-PG language(yes, I know they werent PG then), and knocked out the ECW referee. I think they wanted for him to get booed, which is why they set up the match in RVD's playground where RVD was esteemed as God. What other reaction could he possibly garner? They managed to bring him around as the sympathetic babyface by the booking anyway, because the only reason RVD won the title was because Edge speared Cena through a table in the match, and Paul Heyman made the 3 count. He may have walked in the heel, but he walked out the screwed over babyface.
The no rematch clause was actually put in before their match at Breaking Point, which i remember quite vividly, because it was in my hometown and I was there. And Orton did pin Cena in both the triple threat at NOC's, and at their next match at Summerslam. He looked every bit the dominant heel champion walking into their Bragging Rights Match. And you're right, they did trade victories, which showed they were evenly matched. But that was 09, not this year.
Well it was technically 4 and a half months, because Cena began chasing the title in early June after losing it to RVD because of Edge, into their TLC match in late September at Unforgiven. All of Cena's failed attempts to win the title back were due to Edge, whether he interfered in two of his matches with RVD, or got himself intentionally DQ'd at their July title match at Saturday nights main event.(Hey, Im a Cena mark, i remember his matches. )
You're right, he did win all the time, but he did it many times after having his ass kicked repeatedly in showdowns with his opponents time and time again. That showed he was up against the odds, and facing daunting tasks at some times due to "injuries" at the hands of his opponents.(Umaga, Orton)
This has certainly been a great feud from top to bottom, as Nexus has mostly thwarted Cena at every attempt. Other then his feud with Edge, which i still say as his best just because of the chemistry between the two, this has been Cena's best feud. I also agree that it has turned the crowd, of all ages mostly, into a pro-Cena crowd. But much of that can be attributed to the hatred for Nexus, rather then love for Cena.
The other thing Id point out is that the feud didnt start until June, and his only other major feud(no Sheamus wasn't a major feud), was with Batista, which was thoroughly one-sided in Cena's favor, as he beat Batista at 3 straight PPV's. Ill go as far and say because of how great the Nexus feud has been that this has been his 2nd best year, but i have to go with 07 as his best, for the reasons listed above.
I don't think Cena intended to be the heel. He got an extremely negative reaction on his way to the ring. There were signs of "If Cena wins, we riot" and those "You can't wrestle" chants too. That is when I think Cena decided to play heel because he saw that the crowd had turned against him. The ending of the match suggests even more that Cena was booked as a face. I think they booked it to be a face vs face encounter but things went awry. It was something that Cena improvised on the spot but I do not think it was something he liked. Even after he lost in a somewhat screwy manner there was no sympathy for him..
And its not like that was the only occasion he got booed. Cena got booed against Triple H at Wrestlemania 22 at a time when Triple H was the top heel of the company.
There was a promo war between the two ie Cena and Orton two weeks before HIAC where Cena said that there would be no more rematches. I remember it quite well. I dunno if he said that before Breaking Point as well but if he did then none of that turned out to be true did it.
.You are right about the timeline. Though I should add that Edge could have won one of those matches cleanly, or at least with a sneaaky pinfall. The fact that Cena won each of them via DQ also pisses me off. Beating Cena would have made look strong while Cena would not have lost his heat by eventually winning the feud
I get what you are trying to say but I think you can see it for yourself how similar all those feuds were. Familiarity breeds contempt. After a point you could almost second guess everything that was going to happen. That is not great television in my opinion. He lost the confrontation, won the PPV. It got stale after a while. Plus after you win so much its a bit hard to believe that you are facing a stiff challenge.
You are right about the fact that the Batista feud waas very one sided but I feel this feud with Nexus has more than made up for it.