Former Writer Makes Bizarre Allegations Against Randy Orton

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  1. Jack-Hammer

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    Maybe bizarre isn't the right word so much as disgusting and classless but, you be the judge. The story comes from part of a podcast hosted by Major League Wrestling featuring an interview with former WWE writer and MLW founder Court Bauer. The allegation came from this little part of the interview:

    "For every new writer that would show up, he would come in the room put his hand down his pants, pull out his dick, touch himself, then say 'I'm Randy Orton, shake my hand...Oh, you don't want to shake my hand? You're 'big leaguing' me? That's fucked up man. Should I tell Vince and Steph you won't shake Randy Orton's hand?'

    "The writers would all start sweating and backing up into the corner, the guy's dick is still hanging out, and he would be there cutting a promo on a guy with his dick hanging out for like five minutes. Court goes on to say Orton was very intense so you could never tell if he was fucking with you or if he was really hot. I was lucky, Randy did it to him on the first day he was with the company at TV and just as he was about to pull his dick out, Stephanie walked in, and that shit went right back in his pants. It was as if a teacher entering the classroom."


    When asked if he would have shaken his hand, Bauer says "I don't know. I'm a bit of a germaphobe."

    Bauer says this was something Orton did during his Bauer's entire time at the WWE, and he is surprised Orton didn't get hit with sexual harassment.

    A site contacted WWE and asked about this and the company replied: "WWE is looking into the matter."

    Of course, I have no idea whether or not this is true but I can honestly say I wouldn't have any problems believing it. This is exactly the sort of thing that fit right in with other things Orton was doing during the 2000s. They include stuff like taking craps in the bags of some of the female wrestlers and making derogatory claims about them, especially after he'd slept with them but this is about fifty shades of fucked up. WWE's statement in regard to all this, in my opinion, translates to them primarily waiting until the whole thing blows over, which it probably will unless this story making the rounds causes others to come forward. If this is true, then Orton should be fired and blackballed from WWE as there's just no possible excuse for this.
     
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  2. wrestlingmasters55

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    I've respect Court bauer for what he did over the last few years and everything but i the same time outside of trying to understand what he has to gain with revealing this now. It's not like it will make is company even bigger because of this or actually hurt the WWE or Orton. So he really got nothing to gain by telling this story outside of just being petty for the sake of it. The fact is, Orton could sue the guy over this if this story was hurting his brand but again what would that serve. So if i'm WWE or Orton, i would just let this blow over and move on and not give Court the spotlight that he was trying to get by telling this story.

    This was just the case of another former WWE employee, that's has a lot success now trying to make himself interesting by telling a story that he knew would outrage a lot of people in this PC world we live in now and my god he was right because. We live in this PC world now were we can't do or say anything without being scrutinize by somebody. We are really at are worst as far as far as a society is concern right now and the more technology advance the worst the human race will be because we love to judge peoples and technology help us do that anonymously.

    Sorry about this rant, but it piss me off when i see what we have become as human beings.
     
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  3. Stone Cold Tea

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    I think if I saw someone doing that I'd tell people because it's a crazy thing. As for the PC world comment, yeah sure, I remember back in the day when you could walk around with your dick out shaking people's hands. Damn snowflakes making us put our dicks away.
     
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    I went and read this story on the main page and a couple of other sites. It appears that a Reddit user transcribed the podcast that was done in 2012.

    First of all I find it strange that this is only coming to light now, 6 years after the actual podcast was done, and why nothing was said about it before. That being said though, I have to say that Randy Orton as much as I like him, has always given me a bit of the creeps.

    I too believe that this is something he might be capable of doing. He seems to have this attitude about him that he can do anything and get away with it. Don't know the guy personally, but those are the vibes that I get from him.

    I also find it hard to believe that the WWE knew nothing of it. They might be a big company but news like this would travel fast and reach the top. If this story is true then he should be penalized, we are in the middle of the Me Too movement, and it should apply to everyone. Bigger names in the media than his have been taken down recently. He's been protected for a long time for other shenanigans, this however might a the tipping point in today's atmosphere.
     
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    Let's say that the allegations are true, not saying that they are but let's just say they are for the sake of discussion. I don't know about you but I very much prefer to live in a society where I don't have to endure being bullied at my job by someone who knows he has a lot of influence with the higher ups just because he thinks its funny. There's nothing PC about not wanting to shake the hand of a guy who pulls out his dong, rubs it, lets it hang there for all the world to see and then tells you to shake his hand. If anyone thinks that it's okay under any circumstances, it's got nothing to do with PC, they just have a couple of screws loose or is an asshole himself/herself and belongs back in a time when "boys will be boys" was a viable sort of defense to this sort of nonsense.

    Again, just saying IF this is true, I'd be more upset with people who do this sort of thing and companies who look the other way & allow it to happen rather than people blowing the whistle on this stuff going down.
     
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  6. therockiswwf

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    Sue for what? You sue in these cases for damages it causes. So if this didn't cause Orton any troubles with work/media/friends, he won't get much out of it.

    So you think that if someone doesn't immediately report something (say they fear losing a job), then it shouldn't ever matter?

    You know, I would very much like to be able to work somewhere where it is illegal for someone to try to force me to touch their cock. Where it is illegal for someone to show me their cock when I don't want to see it. Why would you want to live in that world? Why would Court lie about this?
     
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    My problem with all of this just like everything that's been denounce right now, not just in wrestling but in every other entertainment form as well is that you can't prove any of it anymore and It's most more here say then anything else at this point. I know It's hard to report this type of behavior when it happens because you don't know if you will lose your job or not by denouncing this but at the same time, what's the point of doing it now. I really serve nothing outside of making the person who is talking about it feel better.

    Do you really think that even if WWE looks into this, that they will found anything. Hell no, first because all of Orton's friend will never sell him out, the agents that we're working for wwe at the time will protect him so what's left, people that don't work with the company and that WWE won't believe anyway. Orton was a jerk back in the day, that's no secret, even his dad talk about how childish Orton was when he first started but Orton as change and now is a more mature human being that has learn from his mistakes, so what is the point of trying to ruin the guys life for something that happened over a decade ago.

    If you weren't man enough to do something about it back then when it mattered and they could have done something about it, why do it now that you can't prove anything and it will just be bauer's words against Orton's words
     
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  8. therockiswwf

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    Because...they are afraid to lose their job.

    Sometimes people who are raped don't report it right away. A lot of factors can play into that. Doesn't mean we should ignore them.

    So basically you are saying all Orton did was sexual harassment, no big deal. Wow. That's a horrible view.

    Maybe it helps the confidence of other victims and they will come forward as well.

    Already stated why above. Insinuating Court wasn't "man enough" is a very immature view.
     
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    Maybe this guy doesn't have video of what happened and maybe no one else will come out of the woodwork and back him up, it still doesn't mean that he's a liar. Sure it's hard to report this kind of behaviour for fear of job loss or whatever, but it still doesn't make it right, does it? I'm sure that the guy, sorry forgot his name, doesn't feel better by telling his story, maybe he's just telling the truth.

    Orton has been protected for years, anyone else would have been gone a long time ago. Times have changed though. The WWE now has shareholders to answer too, not to mention an audience that is half made up of families. Maybe a parent wouldn't think twice of buying their kids Randy Orton gear knowing what he's been accused of.

    Like I said, with Orton's past I'm more inclined to believe this story. Sometimes when you act like an asshole, it will come back to haunt you when you don't expect it.

    Sorry forgot to add that if the story is true and Orton isn't man enough to stand up to it, maybe he shouldn't be doing the crap he does.
     
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  10. Kodo Sawaki

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    Not really a big fan of firings based on rumors. If they look into matter and it turns out to be true, sure. But based on some former writer bragging on some podcast? Eh, its not really that sound accusation. Though I can see why companies opt to do so. For example Disney and James Gunn thing where you cant have somebody that you could even imply he is a pedophile doing kids movies. If this goes mainstream I could see them taking an action against Orton.

    Otherwise, I could believe it. Everybody knows he was a literal dick in 2000s. Wouldn't make it less bizarre then him shitting in a purse of female coworker.
     
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  11. Dave

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    Is it just me that thinks this is equal parts terrible and equal parts fucking hilarious?

    I've been in sports teams and gyms for a long time. There's a fine line between having a joke with someone and being a total asshole. This seems a lot like the latter because of the length of time it has been going on for but I kind of get it. We all know that wrestling has its ways of hazing new starts and this is probably where all of this is rooted in. I'm not saying I agree with him doing it but I kind of understand. Sound to me like it's a joke that has went waaaaay too far.

    That said, I don't doubt it happened and was probably still happening until recently. Is it enough to fire the guy? I don't think so.
     
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  12. enviousdominous

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    If men could get pregnant, Vince would have already had fifteen of Randy's kids (they still take nine months).

    The WWE seems to have a strategy when it comes to performers who they desperately want to retain no matter what they say or do, and staving off the aftermath of a news report like the one from Court Bauer. That strategy involves reforming people like Randy in private, so that they can at least make the excuse that this story is just so six years ago and that Randy has since made amends with those that he wronged.

    Would I ever shake Randy's hand? Hell no, and not just because he apparently jacks off compulsively.

    When it comes to controversies of character like these, nothing will happen until something specific happens. There are layers of awareness in our society, some of us seek out information compulsively as if to get a fix and some of us are so dead to the world around us that they can't for the life of them tell you who our current President is. That specific thing that has to happen, is that the idiot who shrugs his/her shoulders at the question of who is the current US President being able to describe in detail how Randy would jack-off and suggest that you should shake the hand he just used.

    Right now this is only at our level, the smark level. Reading most of the responses on here, I'm pretty sure that most of you have lives and therefore don't have the energy or concern necessary to blast this occurrence to major news outlets, online tabloids, and Twitter in a way that would make it seem marketable. As a person who's so far down the ladder of influence regarding this world's concerns, I have to accept that I'm disgusted with Randy and that he'll never face consequences for upsetting me.

    I hate to marginalize what he did, but he didn't technically cross the line of sexual assault that's a career ender for anyone. Sexual harassment? Oh hell yes, he went so far beyond that line that he lost sight of it. Sexual harassment is upsetting for those of us with an ounce of decency about ourselves, but the WWE probably doesn't want to start pretending that they care about claims of sexual harassment. If Twitter has shown me anything, it's that it loves to reverse roles and reveal hypocrisy. If the WWE fired or severely disciplined Randy for undefined sexual harassment, it would open up a can of worms that would probably make the company implode.

    Randy's a piece of shit, a deserter, and a sexual deviant. He's apparently comfortable with all of that, so shouting it at him isn't going to do anything. The WWE is apparently comfortable with all of that, so shouting it at them isn't going to do anything. Do you really want to do something? Check the spoiler:

    Honestly, don't bother.
    For real though, you have better things to do.
    I'm warning you, this will require a ton of your time and effort.
    You've come this far, but I still think that you'll hate me if you continue.
    You hate me already? Well good, I suppose. But I'm still concerned that you have better things to do, and that I'm being a bad influence.
    What's it going to take!? Huh!? FINE! I love you, I've always loved you, and I just didn't know how to say it!
    That didn't work eh? Well shit. Last chance to turn back.
    Hop up on Twitter, and spam the shit out of one of the WWE's major sponsors (@marsglobal, @capri_sun, @fritolay, @gotmilk, @nestle, @colgate, @PhillipsNorelco, @generalmills, @taketwo) with links and memes and create a catch hashtag like #HandyRandy.
    That's it, go away.
    ......fine. I love you. NOW BEAT IT!
     
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  13. enviousdominous

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    Well, this is fun.

    As of right now, WWE.com isn't being observant of the recent explosion of awareness that CarterVoorhes31's post on Reddit regarding Court's podcast admission has caused. However; Wrestlenews.co has apparently received a response back from the WWE stating that the WWE is "looking into the matter". That's honestly a Hell of a lot more than I expected of them, but good job WWE.

    Apparently due in part to the popularity of Reddit and in part due to a desire of some media sources to exploit a juicy scandal, this story is making the rounds on a bunch of tabloid websites.

    MSN.com reported: WWE 'Looking Into' Old Accusations That Wrestler Randy Orton Would Expose Himself to Writers

    Foxnews.com reported: WWE's Randy Orton is being investigated for allegedly exposing himself to writers

    Ken Anderson gave the following account in a 2017 YouShoot interview.

    Ken Anderson:

    One time I was in the locker room. Everyone had left the building and it was just Randy Orton and I in the locker room. He was naked and he had just come out of the shower or something and he was naked. I remember my boots were sitting there and he kept dipping his cock into my boot. I was like, ‘What are you doing?’ He was like, ‘*ding*’ – just dipping his balls and his cock into my boot. He used to do stuff like this and we’d be riding in the car and I’d be like, ‘Randy, there’s no one else around to find that funny.

    So, it's way the fuck out there now. If at this point nothing happens to Randy, then the WWE risks their new family friendly vibe.
     
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    All you people are saying what should happen to Orton if it is true?

    But what if it isn't?

    Whenever a member of the public or the media make an allegation about a celebrity, people believe it, rather than question it, because people love schaudenfrede, and want to bring celebrities down.

    Not saying it isn't true. It probably is, but it is amazing how quick people seem to gravitate to some no-name making an allegation about a famous person, knowing that it will bring major publicity, and make the person making the allegation the victim while the celebrity gets their brand damaged, and loses their job.

    Now, if true, the celebrity deserves everything he gets. But if it isn't, then people seem prepared to see someone famous lose their career because of jealousy or to bring the famous down to their level.

    Would you be as quick to believe it if Randy Orton said the same thing about Court Bauer? Probably not, because no-one cares what Court Bauer does, and no-one feels better about themselves by lopping someone who isn't a tall poppy.

    A lot of the wrestling media deep down wish that they had .000000001 of the talent that WWE wrestlers do. It can make one resentful, and looking to get famous off the back of someone else's fame.
     
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  15. therockiswwf

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    I don't think it's because people in general like other people failing. People believe this because Randy has similar stories (Cena, Kennedy) and it fits his personality. Court has no reason to lie about it. I'm not saying we should hang Randy at the gallows but the public is allowed to make an opinion based off of the limited knowledge we know. Innocent until proven guilty isn't something the public has to heed.

    People aren't saying what should happen if it isn't true because then the answer would be: nothing (and there would be no point to this thread). Court won't go to jail. Randy hasn't really been damaged monetarily from what we know.

    Again, this fits Orton's personality. That's why people are quick to believe this.

    It's why Orton would have little to gain from suing Court if this turns out to be false. When you are perceived as a dick/bad person, a person making an allegation against you being a dick/bad person won't cause much harm.

    I don't think most people are as pessimistic as you think. At least I hope not.
     
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    If what happened after SD Live is any indication, no sort of action or real investigation on WWE's part will take place. The dark match showed AJ Styles, Luke Gallows & Karl Anderson defeat Orton, Shinsuke Nakamura but before the match, Orton walked around ringside and offered to shake hands with members of the ring crew or staff that was out there while laughing, which in turn caused the staffers to start laughing their asses off.
     
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