Umm... OK.
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This is his Top 10 moves. About 5 to 6 of those aren't even USED by wrestlers in the states today. And if you can hear in the background, that's cheering. Loud cheering. Inoki is waaay over, drew money, and was a skilled shoot wrestler. So I did prove otherwise. Whoops.
Dude, is that a match? No, it's a showcase out of his moveset, which isn't that impressive to begin with and proves my point exactly, because it shows how Inoki couldn't WORK a submission, but instead actually HURT his opponent, which is not supposed to be apart of professional wrestling.
Also, what fucking move in there isn't used today in the states? WWE does not equal "the states," Lariat. Lol.
But, anyway, I'll play along and post CM Punk's top 10 moves, even if you completely missed my point earlier:
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Thank you for giving me an excuse to post that Lariat, to further prove my point that in the ring, there's simply no comparison between these two. Punk is better. And anyone who says that Inoki's little moveset you posted competes with that shit above is out of their mind.
Typical responses from someone who can't prove a point.
I can concede this, but that doesn't mean he's not a legend in the wrestling ring. He would own Punk in 10-15 minutes. Probably even toy with him.
Yeah, since most likely he'd be booking the match. Dude, I'm not arguing that Punk would beat Inoki in a kayfabe match, he wouldn't. I'm just arguing he's the better wrestler and deserves to go over a business man.
Umm... he was a great businessman. And a great wrestler.
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This is Hogan and Inoki. The ovation he gets, the moves he uses. Seems like a great wrestler to me.
Lol... the one match you post, is against Hulk Hogan, someone whom many people consider the greatest ever.
Besides, that match was decent at best, not a classic, and it surely doesn't compete with Punk's greatest matches.
Also, how many times do I have to say this... Inoki was over because he pushed himself. That's it. At the point in time when NJPW was created, any decent wrestler could have promoted himself and defeated everybody and they would have been beloved and over. Anyone with a brain would realize this fact.
Two video examples posted.
No, one video was a move list that was countered and defeated, while the other was a decent match against one of the greatest American wrestlers of all time. It shows how limited you are when it comes to finding good Inoki matches. You can't find them, because he mostly squashed people.
You should kindly stop flaming someone because you know you're being taken to the woodshed in this argument.
Lol... how am I being taken to the woodshed with this argument? You didn't prove shit in that other post, you just said things. And this post, I give you credit for at least trying this time, but you just dug a deeper hole for yourself because I have a counter for whatever filth you come up with.
I take tdigle's opinion quite a bit more seriously than yours as far as Puro is concerned, and he agrees with me. So do yourself a favor and resort to a civil debate and stop telling a fellow staff member to 'shut the fuck up'. Want to shut me up? Prove CM Punk's a better wrestler than Inoki.
1. I've already have.
2. Tdigs actually agrees with me that Inoki shouldn't be considered one of the greatest in Puro history. He's just not a big fan of CM Punk (there aren't many American wrestlers he's a fan of though).
3. I only flamed you for talking down on me first, when an argument I made as for why Punk should win, you countered it by saying you'll never take anything I say seriously again. That deserved a retaliation. Don't cry about it.
Pretty sure I did.
Nope.
Wow. Why don't you just ask me to get you proof that LeBron James is a great basketball player or that Joe Montana's a good QB and could play better on two sprained ankles than Drew Brees could on his BEST day. Use common sense here.
Lol... and if I did, you would post stats and videos to prove that those people were great. However, you can't do that with Inoki, since no evidence exist for you to do so.
Inoki's a great businessman, but fans knew him for his wrestling.
Fans loved him because he beat everybody, not because of his talent.
Wait for it...
WOW! Love it when you counter your own argument!
As I said earlier... typical responses from someone who can't prove a point.
Riiight. Because of Ring of Honor right? Where 'wrasslin's real!!??' Look, I'm a fan of ROH, but just because Punk or anyone wrestled there doesn't mean they're the second coming of Harley Race or Lou Thesz. Punk has great in-ring skills, but is far overmatched by Inoki.
And yet, you cannot prove that statement by showing matches that comes anywhere near close to being as good as CM Punk's matches against Samoa Joe, Bryan Danielson, Austin Aries, Jeff Hardy, Raven, Chris Hero, Homicide, etc. Hell, Punk has had matches against John fucking Morrison that are better than anything Inoki has done in the ring, lol.
Because they've wrestled before?
What the fuck does this have to do with anything?
Look, I'm not one to fan any flames, although I'd be justified in doing so, but this isn't even a fair argument.
Exactly, it's not a fair argument, because I can find actual video evidence and show matches and clips that shows Punk's talents in the ring and on the microphone. You cannot do the same for Inoki, admit it.
Punk isn't on the level of Inoki at this point in is career and may never be.
In the ring, yes he is.
Inoki could entertain the masses with his wrestling and was a great attraction in Japan, where wrestling is taken far more seriously than it is in America.
So? Punk was able to entertain the indy fanbase for over 5 years, people who take the business very seriously themselves. And since 2006 he has entertained MILLIONS all over the World with his work in WWE because of his ability in the ring and on the microphone.
Muhammad Ali comes over and wants to fight you and you're not a legend?
Lol... Ali got offered a shit load of money to have a fixed match with Inoki, and he accepted. You really think Ali knew who Inoki was before then? I don't think so, man, so GTFO with that bullshit.
Like I said... Inoki was a great business man, but that's it.
Then how come Ali didn't choose someone else? Giant Baba had his own promotion. Didn't see Ali fight him.
Are you fucking serious, Lariat? You really are talking out of your ass now, man. You're acting like Ali went to Inoki on his hands and knees begging to give him a match in Japan. Lol... that wasn't the case at all. Like I said, Inoki offered Ali a shit load of money to take the match, and he accepted. That's all it was. Ali would have accepted that with anybody offering the same amount of $$$ Inoki was offering.
With your thought process man, Bam Bam Bigelow should be considered one of the greatest ever because Lawrence Taylor "wanted" to have a match with him at Wrestlemaina.
To summarize, you have said that 'Voting for Inoki is like voting for Eric Bischoff or Paul Heyman', 'Inoki's never had any big matches or not as many as Punk has.' And 'Inoki's done less in 30 years than what Punk has done in 10.' This is your argument.
Actually, you're putting words in my mouth, because I never said "big" matches. That would be ******ed.
But, yes... ultimately, those other statements are completely true. Inoki's squash matches cannot compete with the matches Punk has put on this decade. No way. And you can't prove otherwise.
Folks, vote for Antonio Inoki. Don't let someone try to sell you on a wrestler who's not even in the atmosphere of one of wrestling's legends.
Sorry Lariat, but if anyone is reading this objectively, they will see how full of shit you are in this one, and will do the right thing and vote the superior WRESTLER, not the superior business man.