Cena Region, Hartford Subregion, First Round: (12) Jeff Hardy vs. (21) Big Daddy

[HBK-aholic]

This is a first round match in the Cena Region, Hartford Subregion. It is a standard one on one match. It will be held at the XL Center in Hartford, Connecticut.

#12. Jeff Hardy


Vs.

#21. Big Daddy


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[JGlass]

Hartford Connecticut is a shit hole. It's a huge hub for heroine and other opiates.

You know who LOVES drugs? Jeff Hardy. Dude shows up high and Big Daddy gets the easy pin.

Also Big Daddy was at one time the biggest name in professional wrestling in the whole UK while Jeff Hardy never rose above flavor of the month status (although in truth he was probably flavor of the month for like a year and a half).

But seriously, there's no way Jeff Hardy is wrestling this match sober.

 

[Sai the Uganda Guy]

Big Daddy is arguably the greatest UK wrestler in history. Jeff Hardy is that one crazy druggie kid that does cool flips and shit.
But seriously, Jeff Hardy didn't have the longevity on top Big Daddy did in the UK with his time as British Heavyweight Champion in 1960 and his 2 runs as European Union Heavyweight Champion.
Vote Big Daddy.

 

[Bernkastel]

Margret Thatcher and Queen Elizabeth 2 have both named Big Daddy among their favorite wrestlers and entertainers. I don't think a single US president or Senator knows who Jeff Hardy is, let alone lists him among their top wrestlers or performers or anything ever. For years Big Daddy was pro wrestling in the UK. He was the be all end all in a pretty literal sense of the world. The heart and the soul. And while he won't defeat some of the other iconic names from outside his small bubble of a nation, I'll vote for him over Jeff Hardy at least.

Jeff Hardy is one of those guys that could have been a really big star. And I place heavy emphasis on the word "could." Weak booking and poor personal choices have really put a damper on his overall career.

"Hey remember that one time Jeff Hardy came out high off his ass and had a shoot match with Sting?"

^ That's the legacy Jeff Hardy is leaving behind.

 

[Khalifa]

Hmm. Both guys a 3 times champions, with big daddy having held the Britain and European world titles and Jeff has won the WWE and world heavyweight championships. Both guys popular with the crowd (when Daddy wasn't playing a good heel). Very cool match. My support for Jeff starts now though!

First off please be real guys, Jeff does not come in intoxicated. I know you guys know that but I just want everyone to know. Secondly, Big Daddy got major big after his brother took over the promotions. So wonder what would of happened if that didn't happen. I know he had a 14 year career before that but his most memorable one was as Big Daddy for his family's promotion. Jeff Hardy continued to make it to the top of the card during his second return. He faced some demons but in the end still main evented with HHH, Edge, Orton and Punk and won. Nobody was hotter than Hardy from the time he took on Orton (skip the suspension part ) to the time he left after a losing effort to Punk. Cena and Taker weren't getting more pops, the same probably but not louder by any chance.

I didn't realize this was the Cena region when I first saw the matchup so I am forgetting about home field. Still though Big Daddy would no doubt play the heel and Hardy the face here. Hardy has beaten monster heels in his career as was proven against Umaga. He also can take one hell of a beating also proven against Taker in the ladder match for one. I think Hardy gets destroyed most of the match only for a Swanton or roll up to win it. I think Jeff runs the older version of Shirley ' Big Daddy' Crabtree around tiring him.

In terms of power everything, Daddy takes it, however I think this match is a little different and Jeff pulls off the 'how did he do that' win like he was famous for in his career.

 

[NSL]

I was a Jeff Hardy fan until the wheels fell off his roller coaster, but I have to say he stands no chance here. He'd be the spot monkey that would be needed to carry the match, and keep the crowd entertained, but then he'd either hurt himself, or get hurt trying to do some stupid shit to Big Daddy, and it would be over without much fuss.

 

[Richard Blonoff]

I made mention in the All-Stars that without this tournament I would only think Big Daddy was a decent Adam Sandler film. Seriously I had never heard of him before my participation in this tournament a few years back, and I have been watching wrestling since I was a wee Yazzy.

I was never a Jeff Hardy fan, I always preferred Matt...I'm dumb I know...but I think Jeff goes over here. He slayed a few big men in his career, and I think Big Daddy would be another to fall to a Swanton Bomb after Daddy beats the hell out of Jeff.

 

[Tastycles]

Imagine being on the cusp of being one of the most notable and dominant wrestlers of all time and then quitting to join TNA. That's what Jeff Hardy did. Meanwhile Big Daddy was a household name and had a higher weekly television audience than any American wrestler in history. Look, Jeff was very charismatic and became very popular but rather than capitalise on that, he made a slew of awful decisions. Big Daddy is better than Jeff Hardy and he's a far more shrewd operator. Big Daddy wins.

 

[nightmare]

Jeff Hardy is a druggie daredevil. If this was a video game I would have Jeff run over Big Daddy like a coked up maniac.


The chances of Jeff actually taking enough drugs to overcome this legend without passing out are slim. I dont care for Big Daddy, but cannot deny that he is a much bigger deal that Jeff will ever be. No way he goes over the British wrestling hero.

 

[Alex]

Jeff Hardy is one of those guys that could have been a really big star. And I place heavy emphasis on the word "could." Weak booking and poor personal choices have really put a damper on his overall career.

Even with that happening he's still had a successful international career. Even though he's not allowed in the UK at the moment you watch one of TNA's UK shows there's loads of people wearing Jeff Hardy merch. That's how big the guy is

I'm not knocking Big Daddy. My dad who knows nothing about wrestling names Big Daddy as one of the people he knows about. But Big Daddy is the equivalent of one of the American regional stars. Big in that region, not so big anywhere else. Jeff Hardy is.

Imagine being on the cusp of being one of the most notable and dominant wrestlers of all time and then quitting to join TNA. That's what Jeff Hardy did.

So did Kurt Angle.

Yes Jeff Hardy could've been bigger than he was but the fact that he's still pretty big. He went from tag team wrestler, to midcard wrestler to main event wrestler. That's an accomplishment.

As to the actual match as Yaz has pointed out Jeff's beaten a fair few big guys in his time. It's perfectly feasible for Jeff to win this one. Sure Big Daddy would beat the shit out of him first but Jeff would overcome and win.

 

[Deoxyribonucleic A.C.I.D.]

Big Daddy is a name I'm not familiar with. However I'll leave a comment for the rest to take into consideration:

Jeff Hardy made a career out of reaching for the big one, but never quite getting it (when he got it, he left). So I think that round 1 is too early for Jeff Hardy to be kicked out of the tournament.

Also let's not forget: This is the Cena region. Which means that Jeff Hardy has the era advantage. Hardy was the most popular wrestler in 2009 and 2010, which was during Cena's prime, so that gives Hardy a big boost.

My onlt problem (and Jeff's problem) is this: Jeff only wins big matches under stipulations. (def. Undertaker in Extreme Rules match, def. Edge in Ladder match, def. Umaga in FCA match). Jeff tends to loses normal matches, only to make a comeback in a stipulation-match.

 

[Good Golly It's Ollie]

More of my family members know the name Big Daddy than they do Jeff Hardy.

Hell, more of them know the name Shirley Crabtree more than Jeff Hardy, and the guy's been dead quite a while.

Anyway, Jeff is great (when he's got his shit together) but this is the one case where I feel fully justified voting for my home boy.

Big Daddy dominated in a very classic way, he was a huge, old school power wrestler. In many ways he was almost a British Hogan, or perhaps a British Dusty. He didn't hold a huge number of titles per se, but was a highly dominant figure in the ring and was a household name. My uncles and great uncles watched him weekly. A legend by British wrestling standards.

[/national pride]

 

[FitFinlay4Life]

For my love of wrestling over sports entertainment (and even that's loose when referring to Shirley)... and the fact that Jeff has never killed wrestling in a wrestling loving country. Creatures over the guy who was never a champion in his prime, 'specialised' in doing very little in tag bouts in his prime and whose most famous match makes Trish vs Jackie Gayda look like Savage vs Steamboat... only much MUCH shorter!

Vote Jeff!!!

 

[NSL]

Also let's not forget: This is the Cena region. Which means that Jeff Hardy has the era advantage. Hardy was the most popular wrestler in 2009 and 2010, which was during Cena's prime, so that gives Hardy a big boost.

That means nothing. The "Cena Region" name is only because Cena is the #1 seed.

Hardy's career was made by doing stupid shit that would kill him if he weren't so hopped up on pain meds. You don't think he'd try the same thing here, and get flattened by a guy three times his size? Big Daddy scores the win here, but not until after Jeff does some crazy shit.

 

[Khalifa]

That means nothing. The "Cena Region" name is only because Cena is the #1 seed.

Hardy's career was made by doing stupid shit that would kill him if he weren't so hopped up on pain meds. You don't think he'd try the same thing here, and get flattened by a guy three times his size? Big Daddy scores the win here, but not until after Jeff does some crazy shit.

More directed at the killing himself part. I would argue that Undertaker in a match that is no DQ is more scary or crazy than any match with Big Daddy could be. I would argue that the same situation could occur with what happened against Taker, in which Taker was intially stunned at what Jeff was doing and could only take a beating for the first part of the match. You could also argue that Umaga in a no dq match is more of a threat than what Big Daddy is in a normal match, yet Hardy still won.

 

[ShinChan]

I think that Jeff Hardy shouldn't lose this match considering that he is much well-known in the world than Big Daddy.

I loved Jeff Hardy in WWE and TNA too. Big Daddy dominates the match and then falls prone to Twist Of Fate and thus swanton bomb for the win.

 

[Sean Valjean]

Here's a knock against Big Daddy: this match isn't taking place in England. Like taking Bruno out of Madison Square Garden, Big Daddy's home-field superpowers diminish quite a bit anywhere else.

In my opinion, Jeff's prime was his 2008-2009 main event run. He was on fire and could believably beat anyone on the roster. So why couldn't this Jeff, an insanely popular name, slay a foreigner famous only in one region but unknown to many in the US?

As for the "Big Daddy is too large for Hardy to beat", Hardy would win the same way he always does against big dudes: just keep throwing his body at them recklessly until they stop getting up. It's stupid some of the time, but it's proven to work.

 

[NSL]

As for the "Big Daddy is too large for Hardy to beat", Hardy would win the same way he always does against big dudes: just keep throwing his body at them recklessly until they stop getting up. It's stupid some of the time, but it's proven to work.

Except Big Daddy isn't going to go down like most of those big guys, and there's only so much Hardy can do before he legit hurts himself, making him easy fodder got the giant Englishman.

 

[stblink]

Both of these guys are great tag team competitors, but I couldn't find any of Big Daddy's single matches that were longer then four minutes. All Hardy has to do is survive the first five minutes of the fight while Big Daddy tuckers himself out. Jeff's quickness win's him the match.

 

[nightmare]

Well this is one of those terrible voting outcomes we have come to know....

I like to joke around on occasion, but probably the most famous British wrestler ever is defeated by Jeff Hardy? I love the guy & his tag matches were a thing of greatness, but he should not go over Big Daddy.