Battleground 2015 LD

Discussion in 'Live Discussions Archives' started by klunderbunker, Jul 19, 2015.

  1. Crocker

    Crocker Dark Match Winner

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2014
    Messages:
    29
    Likes Received:
    46
    Also taking away the curb stomp doesn't help at all.. they built it up so much as a devastating finisher; used it to take both Ambrose and Orton out of action, used it on the day of the Shield- break up, used it to put down pretty much the entire roster. It was built up SO well, then it was just taken away from him.. instead he uses the pedigree, which he executes pretty awfully, so that has made him look even weaker than he already is. Also the curb stomp fits his character so well; its a move that a slimy, opportunitstic, but still devastating heel would use
     
    #376
  2. Nate DaMac

    Nate DaMac Fuck erbody but me

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2009
    Messages:
    2,548
    Likes Received:
    2,611
    Jmt got one thing wrong there. He didn't beat Neville clean, Noble shoved him off the top rope.
     
    #377
  3. klunderbunker

    klunderbunker Welcome to My (And Not Sly's) House

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2007
    Messages:
    17,856
    Likes Received:
    3,359
    On Rollins:

    Yeah his booking as WWE Champion has sucked, because his character has mainly been about running for help from Kane and the Stooges while he tries as hard as he can to please Papa H. How can I be impressed by a champion when he's basically trying to prove that his dad is better than all of his opponents instead of trying to be the best?
     
    #378
  4. Crocker

    Crocker Dark Match Winner

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2014
    Messages:
    29
    Likes Received:
    46
    All of this "future" crap from Rollins is just bullshit now..
     
    #379
  5. Nate DaMac

    Nate DaMac Fuck erbody but me

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2009
    Messages:
    2,548
    Likes Received:
    2,611
    You're not supposed to be impressed with him.

    I admit that I have hated some of his booking but it was due to a lack of creativity, not because he cheats a lot.
     
    #380
  6. Bernkastel

    Bernkastel Reaper of Miracles
    E-Fed Mod

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2006
    Messages:
    4,284
    Likes Received:
    1,689
    Exactly. Which is why Rollins is being booked perfectly right now.
     
    #381
  7. jmt225

    jmt225 Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2008
    Messages:
    2,563
    Likes Received:
    1,806
    I agree that it's not about being impressed by him that's important, but being ENTERTAINED is.

    The Brock match was entertaining for a bit but a huge letdown overall. The Ambrose matches were good but nowhere near as good as last summer's series of matches. The Fatal Four Way wasn't very good. And the Orton cage match flat out sucked.

    As Rollins proved when he was the MITB briefcase holder, he's capable of putting on Match of the Year candidates while also keeping his heat. That's the brilliance of this guy and why I'm such a huge fan of his. But his booking as champion hasn't allowed him showcase his abilities in big match situations and I just don't understand the logic behind that.
     
    #382
  8. Nate DaMac

    Nate DaMac Fuck erbody but me

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2009
    Messages:
    2,548
    Likes Received:
    2,611
    I have to agree with that. If the reports that the the plan is to turn Rollins face in the the near future are true, they would have a much easier transitional period if he's putting on kick ass performances. Considering the roll he's been on lately, a straight up one-on-one match with Cena could be just what Seth needs.
     
    #383
  9. Nate DaMac

    Nate DaMac Fuck erbody but me

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2009
    Messages:
    2,548
    Likes Received:
    2,611
    To add to this (Fantasy booking coming up)

    Let's say that they go with Cena vs. Rollins but they do Title vs. Title. Give them like 20-25 minutes to have a bust ass match and at the end, Rollins hits a Pedigree on Cena. Then KO comes in and attacks Rollins before the pin attempt. It follows the Owens/Cena story, he did say that he would be the one to take the US Title away from Cena, and it sets up a gimmick match between the two at NOC.

    I realize that ths would be the 3rd DQ finish of Rollins reign but unlike the other two times, this time Rollins has been screwed out of being a dual champion. Rather than coming out and glossing over the fact that he got his ass kicked like he has before, he would call out Owens. You can have Triple H tell him to let it go, he's still the champ. You can easily start to create a rift between those two at this point.

    You can have Kane vs. Rollins at NOC as another test or whatever for Rollins from Hunter. Rollins should go over clean. Then you can send another guy at him at the Cell (Wyatt, maybe?) Then you can have your showdown between Rollins and Triple H at Survivor Series.

    It would be very easy to turn Rollins face and very beneficial at that.
     
    #384
  10. Mighty NorCal

    Mighty NorCal SHALL WE BEGIN?

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2006
    Messages:
    0
    Likes Received:
    2,456
    Mostly because he is the CURRENT champion, so it's sorta nonsensical now
     
    #385
  11. Crocker

    Crocker Dark Match Winner

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2014
    Messages:
    29
    Likes Received:
    46
    Nate that sounds great, but if its Rollins vs HHH, HHH is winning for sure.. HHH is facing the Rock at WM, and he ain't going in with a loss to Rollins. Well he COULD, but he isn't going to; he's HHH.. and its somewhat justified too, HHH was on a massive losing streak before he beat Sting, jobbing to the Shield 2 ppvs in a row, losing to DB at WM, losing to Lesnar, losing to Curtis Axel via DQ.. I understand that HHH needs to look strong against The Rock, but Rollins should have a win too. If i were bookiing it I would have Rollins win 1 match at Survivor Series, and HHH wins the next at Royal Rumble.
     
    #386
  12. jmt225

    jmt225 Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2008
    Messages:
    2,563
    Likes Received:
    1,806
    I like Nate's ideas as well, except I strongly believe Rollins vs. HHH should be saved for Wrestlemania.
     
    #387
  13. Crocker

    Crocker Dark Match Winner

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2014
    Messages:
    29
    Likes Received:
    46
    Its one thing to be a cowardly champion who succeeds.. and its another thing to be a cowardly champion who loses week in and week out.. compared to other cowardly champions, Rollins jobs A LOT more.. hell he jobs more than Miz did when Miz was champion.. and he damn sure jobbed more than Edge did. The difference between guys like Miz/rollins and Edge is that Edge is like a narcissistic opportunist and a mastermind. Guys like Miz and Rollins are just PURE cowards. They could've capitalized on his "architect" character and have him do more sinister stuff, like threatening to break edge's neck and bringing back the authority. now THATS what makes him more despicable. things like Edge slapping Cena's father, rollins attempting to KILL dean ambrose, rollins threatening to kill edge, etc.. things like these are better than just running away from fights all the time. Sure running away from fights is a classic heel move, but at least add some sinister stuff to Rollins
     
    #388

Share This Page

monitoring_string = "afb8e5d7348ab9e99f73cba908f10802"