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View Poll Results: Team USA Alternates
Sub out Hogan, Sub in Styles 10 29.41%
Sub out Hogan, Sub in Cena 2 5.88%
Sub out Angle, Sub in Styles 0 0%
Sub out Angle, Sub in Cena 0 0%
Sub out Michaels, Sub in Styles 6 17.65%
Sub out Michaels, Sub in Cena 2 5.88%
Sub out van Dam, Sub in Styles 8 23.53%
Sub out van Dam, Sub in Cena 5 14.71%
Sub out Austin, Sub in Styles 2 5.88%
Sub out Austin, Sub in Cena 2 5.88%
NO SUBS - KEEP TEAM AS IT IS 3 8.82%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 34. You may not vote on this poll

 
 
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Old 02-17-2010, 10:15 AM
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Current Team
Hulk Hogan
Kurt Angle
Shawn Michaels
Rob van Dam
Steve Austin

Alternates
John Cena
AJ Styles

2nd Half Events
Tag Team Tournament
King of the Mountain
Ultimate X
Elevation X
Battle Royal

You may vote to sub out one or two of the current participants for either alternate. You may also vote to keep the team as it is currently constructed. Voting will be open for 3 days. You may vote for more than one choice, but obviously you should not vote for more than one option, since you are only voting to sub out or in a max of two people!
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I believe AJ Styles should be added into the roster. He's TNA's number one wrestler and deserves to represent the USA in the second half. Why? He has the most experience out of anyone in the second half matches. He's been in a short lived, but successful tag team with Christopher Daniels. He's participated in King of the Mountain on multiple occasions. He was an X Division innovator also taking part in Ultimate X and Elevation X matches. I know he's been in the Fight for your Right tournament, which included a reverse battle royal, but I'm not sure if he's been in a traditional one. Still, the man has the most experience in the 3 TNA matches then anyone else on the US team, possibly even anyone else in the competition. Unfortunately, that requires subbing out someone, and the only weak link to Team USA is RVD. While RVD is a great wrestler and very entertaining, I think AJ's experience in these types of matches will make him more of an asset then RVD in the second half.
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Here's the thing. If AJ subs IN, he can only participate in ONE event. Now thinking like the GM of Team USA and a wrestling fan, AJ's best bet would probably be Ultimate X. LOADS of experience there. Elevation X would be the 2nd choice.

If you sub out RVD, you lose your other high-flyer, which means you have either Hogan, Michaels, Austin, or Angle in a match that involves crazy heights. Of the 5 current members of Team USA, RVD is by far the best and most agile high flyer, with HBK a distant 2nd.

So if you wanted to sub in AJ for Ultimate X, you still have to have someone do Elevation X, and Shawn Michaels would NOT be a favorite in that match by any stretch.

Let's say you keep Austin and Michaels on Team USA and place them in the Tag Team event, since they are an experienced tag team together. That leaves Hogan or Angle to be subbed out for Styles. Angle is the captain and an olympic gold medalist already. Hogan is running away with the Gold in the Spin the Wheel Event.

This is why I loved the substitution concept from the start. It's a game of strategy. And either way, you almost cannot win / lose.
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I think Hogan's outlived his usefulness.

Austin and Michaels are the tag team here, and I think have a good chance to take the gold or at the very least, silver. They should not be split up.

Kurt Angle has won TWO King of the Mountain matches. He absolutely needs to remain active here, and is a shoo-in for the gold.

So, are we actually going to go with Hulk Hogan in a match specifically designed for high-flyers? The answer to that is quite simply, no, and I hope to hell that the rest of you agree with me here. AJ Styles replaces Hogan here. The goal is to put your team in position to win the gold or at least the silver. Hogan did his job and got the gold in the Spin the Wheel Event. Now it's time to substitute him out so Team USA can collect another gold medal.
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I think Hogan's outlived his usefulness.
I'm sorry, but at some point in your ramblings, did you forget it was Hulk freakin Hogan? As long as he's on your team, he hasn't lived out his usefulness at all. Did you see the damage he did in the last round? He fucking won you a gold medal, and was pretty much the reason you beat Canada in the Survivor Series. If I'm smart, I'm keeping Hulk on the fucking team. It locks up your battle royal, that's for sure.

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Austin and Michaels are the tag team here, and I think have a good chance to take the gold or at the very least, silver. They should not be split up.
You say this because of they're one stint as a tag team, which was tumultous at best, right?

If I wanted a tag team like that, I'd fucking take Hulk Hogan and Shawn Michaels instead. Or maybe even Kurt and Hulk. Point being, Steve and Shawn is a terrible choice for your tag team. They constantly bickered, and have never been that buddy buddy with one another. You're surely going to get beat by The Bulldogs, maybe whatever Canadian team is subbed in, and hell, maybe even the Bushwackers. Don't laugh, it's entrely feasible. My point being, a team of Hogan/Michaels, or even Hogan/Angle, will be even better.

Which brings me to my decision... Take out Shawn, and bring in Cena. Simply put, a team of Cena and Hogan is a dream team. That, I guarantee you, will get you at least Silver in the Tag Team, and potentially gold. The team of Cena and Hogan is one that would be fantastic, ultimately extremely resilient, and

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Kurt Angle has won TWO King of the Mountain matches. He absolutely needs to remain active here, and is a shoo-in for the gold.
We definitely agree here.

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Well, no, but you don't really have to, you see. No one ever said Hulk Hogan had to be in a freaking ladder match, at all. Besides, if you really were basing in on aerial ability, the first person you'd actually want out is Steve Austin. Yeah, I said it, not that I don't love Steve, but he's just as useless now as you assume Hogan to be. His knees have been shot since 1995, and I doubt any one here is going to use the Stunning Steve Austin of the Dangerous Alliance.

It's very simple; take out Austin and Shawn, and put in Styles and Cena. It can work as thus;

Tag Team- Cena and Hogan
KotM- Angle
Elevation X- RVD
Ultimate X- Stlyes

Battle Royal- I don't know about you, but there's no doubt in my mind that with Kurt Angle, John Cena, and Hulk Hogan, the US has a guaranteed winner in the Battle Royal.

Are my ideas popular? Probably not, as it's leaving out two of the best wrestler's ever. Is it smart? You bet your ass.
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I definetly think Styles should be subbed in here for the Ultimate X. I think he'd more or less assure a Gold Medal there. However, subbing him in for Hogan is ludicrous. Hogan is the greatest wrestler of all the times. No way he should be taken of the team. It just doesn't make any sense to me at all.

Seeing as we still need RVD for KOTM, I say we sub out HBK. Sure, he's sexy and all, but we don't really need him on this team anymore, at least not ahead of guys like Angle, Austin, and Hogan.

I'd also like to sub in Cena, but I just can't see anyone that I'd take out to replace him.
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I'd also like to sub in Cena, but I just can't see anyone that I'd take out to replace him.

I hate to say it, Dissaray, but it's Steve that has to go. This ain't the Hollywood Blondes, and he ain't tagging with Brian Pillman here. There's a reason the guy's motto, besides "That's the bottom line"... And "What?!?!"... And "Gimme a Hell Yeah".... Well that's not the point. The point is that his motto is DTA: Don't Trust Anyone. is that really the type of guy you want on your tag team?

I'll let you all consider this; take these two teams into account for me. Tell me which one you think is better:

Hogan/Cena- Two invincible wrestlers, who always seem to get the win. Pretty cooperative, and have yet to ever feud. Believe in truth, justice, yada yada. This is the dream team here. This is the rightful passing of the torch.

Austin/Michaels- Two bitter rivals who teamed together only out of convenience. Enforce an untrusting policy, and are liable to snap at each other on a moment's notice.

Ahem... Now which would you rather have teaming together again?
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I never actually considered the all the events, but here is how I think it'd work out. I actually subbed out HBK already, so here we go.

Ultimate X - AJ. Seems rather obvious. He should win the gold here, considering he has the most experience/success in this match out of any wrestler in this thing.

KOTM - RVD. He came onto the team as ladder match expert. May as well put him in a ladder match. Never mind. I have to put Angle here now. He's won KOTM before. It's more than just a normal ladder match. You have to get pins and be and a cage and all as well.

Elevation X - High flying type match. Put RVD here.

Tag Team - Hogan/Austin - Seems like one hell of a team to me. Methinks they'd get along pretty well and would be quite dominant. I'd be fine with Hogan/Cena though.
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Tenta, you talk about Hogan and Cena being an unbeatable tag team, but how are they better then Hogan and Austin? Cena is great, but at this point he can't even touch the success that Austin had in his prime. If you want to make a "super team" so to speak then you have to go Hogan and Austin.

I pretty much agree everywhere else. Have AJ subbed in for either RVD or HBK. Styles does Ultimate X and either Michaels or RVD does Elevation X. That leaves Kurt for King of the Mountain.

King of the Mountain- Kurt Angle
Ultimate X- AJ Styles
Elevation X- Either HBK or RVD depending on who Styles replaces.
Tag Team- Hogan and Austin

For all the people voting out Hogan, please realize that it would be a horrible decision. Hogan and Austin as a tag team would be unstoppable. Fuck chemistry. When you have arguably the two most successful wrestlers in history together, chemistry takes a back seat.
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For all the people voting out Hogan, please realize that it would be a horrible decision. Hogan and Austin as a tag team would be unstoppable. Fuck chemistry. When you have arguably the two most successful wrestlers in history together, chemistry takes a back seat.

No.

No.

No.

Look, typically I'd agree with you Big Sexy, because this would be an awesome team, theoretically. But God knows Steve is a bit bitter over how Hulk treated him in WCW when Hulk came in. Steve was set to go nito the Main Event in WCW, and by September, he went from having classic matches with Ricky Steamboat, to getting squashed in fucking twenty five seconds by Hacksaw Jim Duggan. And he personally felt two men were responsible for that (Perhaps three); Hulk Hogan, and Eric Bischoff. He partially blamed Ric Flair and Dusty, but The Hulkster and Eric got the most heat from Austin after he was fired. Shit, it was the entire basis of his ECW character.

Thus, you have the issue of Steve's vengeful personality. You don't think he'll sacrifice a fucking medal to get back at Hulk? In this round, they'll have to face legitimate teams. The British Bulldogs are a lock to be in this round, so does Edge and Christian. Shit, you even have to fucking consider the Koloffs, and the Bushwackers. You're going to need a team with cohesion. And Steve and Hulk are about as combustible as they come. You might as well put Steve on a team with Mr. McMahon.

Look, the choice is yours. If Team America wants the Gold in the Tag Team, they'll need a cohesive unit. That would definitely be Hogan and Cena.
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