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Old 03-01-2018, 02:02 PM
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Of course in going to do shit if you don't even give it a chance.

The truth is with Trips in charge they're moving away for rom the character based format and concentrating more on the athletic ability of these smaller superstars. Since the soft reboot and this new tournament you may be surprised.
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VKM will never respect the small guys? Yeah I guess that's why smaller guys like Bret Hart,Shawn Michaels, Daniel Bryan, CM Punk, Rey Mysterio to some of the current guys like Finn Balor (first Universal Champion), Seth Rollins (2x WWE Champion) haven't been given the ball and a chance to run with it.

Also have you seen 205 Live recently and heard who's running the creative process now? If not go back the past month or so and watch the Tournament.
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Old 03-01-2018, 04:24 PM
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Also have you seen 205 Live recently and heard who's running the creative process now? If not go back the past month or so and watch the Tournament.
Yeah i know who running Creative and i've seen 205 Live since HHH took over and that's why it's sad to see crowd like the one in L.A. which typically would enjoy that type of product, not stay for the show. So let's face it, unless you either tape the show before smackdown and stop being live, or move it to a smaller setting, no matter how good the product, nobody will cared to stay to watch theses guys wrestled after seeing the big stars do the same thing for 2 hours and not even HHH can save them in the current settings.
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Old 03-02-2018, 12:22 AM
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Nobody left during 205 Live, im not sure what you were watching but it didn't look like anyone did. The LA Crowd looked about the same as it during Smackdown.
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Old 03-02-2018, 04:29 AM
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Nobody left during 205 Live, im not sure what you were watching but it didn't look like anyone did. The LA Crowd looked about the same as it during Smackdown.
Here the post with the pictures of the L.A crowd during the 205 live broadcast that Ryan satin posted

http://nodq.com/news/521835214.shtml

In these pictures, you can clearly see that the arena was half empty during that show.
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205, after Smackdown, is bad, as the crowd normally is dead and doesn’t react. If 205 was an active part of SD or RAW, and not a BRAND, it makes it more relevant. Mix them with guys bigger than them, and we can have good matches. After WM, 205 needs to die and get a Shake-Up and go to Smackdown, and we can have more Tag Teams, more feuds and more storyline for them.
After Enzo Era, I have to admit, it has grown on me, but still needs a IT factor
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Well 205 Live is on the up right now....really all it needs is to keep doing what it's doing. have great matches and tell the story in the ring while adding new guys

i see people keep saying, "add Balor" i say NO to that one. i am ok with adding new stars or current NXT guys, but i want Balor to be on Smackdown Live in the future (after WM) as a heel with Anderson and Gallows....but back to 205 Live....the FIRST thing i'd do is have the WM match be Roderick Strong vs. Drew Gulak and have Strong win.....then after that have him as the face champion facing other heels on the show and book the heels strong by giving them wins, then have Strong beat them....add Neville back (if he wants to be back on this show) and have him eventually feud with Strong. have the show be about the in ring talent and let it tell the story while having Drake (aka Spud) being a funny GM type and NEVER let a guy like Enzo hold this title again.
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Old 03-02-2018, 05:37 PM
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Make it clear that it's not a dead end. The cruiserweights have struggled to get on the main card for any ppv. Why would anyone want to work a division where the champion doesn't even get a ppv bonus? Why would anyone get excited when there are little to no stakes?

The rotating cast of characters at the top of 205 Live has done it no favours. Aries and Neville both salted out of WWE altogether after being at the top. Enzo is as Enzo does. They've also struggled to get people to care about TJP, Swan, Cedric Alexander, and Kalisto.

How do you get people to care, and thus get the talent to care? In WCW, the crusierweights were the most exciting thing. They need to let the fliers fly. Why not have ladder matches on Raw? Why is everyone working the WWE style as small guys?

Bring in legends. Have Rey Mysterio work a program there. Turn Kalisto heel and have him and Mysterio go at it. Make Rey the champion. If it means bringing Rey to the main event of Raw or SDL and giving him a WWE title there to convince him to do it, then do it.

Which brings us to the most important change: don't let it be a dead end. Keep the title matches on the main card, and let guys graduate from the division. Eddie Guererro and Chris Jericho were crusierweights in WCW. Eddie moved seamlessly from the US title scene, to cruiser, and back again without question. Why can't guys do this in WWE?

Neville should have been moved main after they changed gears to Enzo. He could have declared himself "King of Wrestling" or "King of Sports Entertainment" as they prefer. Maybe he wouldn't have left.

Guys like Johnny Gargano, Tammaso Ciampa, Roderick Strong, Aleister Black, Andrade Almas, and even Finn Balor can and should have runs here. Inevitably, they need to graduate the division. Just like Eddie, just like Jericho, and just like Mysterio.

Rey is probably the only in WWE history to have won both the cruiserweight title and win the Royal Rumble to go on to main event WrestleMania. Sure, his match didn't go on last but the fact is that he did it.

The other important piece is to stop leaving the 205 Live guys in their own corner. Have them overlap with the bigger guys. When Kendrick returns, make him and Gallagher a team and send them after the tag belts. What happened to Goldust working with Alexander? Have Braun ruin a powerpoint presentation on Raw. Neville could have won the IC title and still been King of the Cruiserweights, bringing more eyes into the division.

What if they had Balor hold both the Universal title and the Cruiserweight title at the same time? The red would clash with the purple strap, sure, but it would make the cruiser belt seem more important when the main guy on Raw holds the belt.

They need to put main event talent into the show and give them reason to do a run there. They need to show that the buck doesn't stop there for the talent. They need to bring in legends like Rey, and they need to cross promote these guys on Raw. Most importantly, their matches need to stand out. Otherwise they're just C to D list guys working the same match type seen on other WWE programming.
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It takes more than a month to start seeing major changes, anybody who thinks it doesn't is stupid. As for the arena pictures, Smackdown has been half filled for months, even before 205 airs.
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I am going to say something controversial here.

I think Enzo Amore is a big loss to the division.

Why? Because he has stickwork, and was building a character for himself.

I think for 205 Live to survive, it needs its talent to cut promos and show their personalities more. We need to get to know and care about them more. People will then more likely "embrace" them.

This doesn't mean not wrestling the same, but adding personality to the package. Enzo had heel heat, and having him be champion, and throwing challengers at him, would have created some interest.

Too bad Enzo is gone, because I would have liked to have seen him feud with 205 GM, Drake Maverick (nee Rockstar Spud). Both are good on the mike, and also in the ring, so I would have liked to see Maverick try to reign in Enzo, Enzo won't obey Maverick, and it leads to a match at Wrestlemania.

Imagine if they had them at Wrestlemania, this would draw attention. Their stickwork would build the interest, and their in-ring work would present a great match on the biggest stage. If you have a Cruiserweight Match as well, then you have two 205 Live matches at Wrestlemania.

But Enzo had to go and piss his career down the toilet. Most in WWE are probably happy to see him go, but 205 Live needs his promos, and others to deliver similar promos, and make them more well-rounded characters.
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