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Old 12-23-2017, 10:47 AM
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Why is Ember Moon on you guys' list? Did I miss something I thought she was ok.


I think Kevin head butting VKM is the biggest shocker of the year.
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This won't speak for everyone, but I know in a few conversations some of us have had there are a few reasons she gets listed.

When she first debuted and in her vignettes leading to the debut, she was built as this sort of supernatural or mystical character. I always thought they were going to play her up as a lycan or something. It was kind of interesting. They completely dropped it though, with no real reason given. Then, when she hurt her arm, they would just show her backstage in a hoodie and it killed all her mystique. Now she is just a female wrestler who wears colored contacts and has a furry belt on her trunks.

Her matches aren't bad, but they are super underwhelming. It doesn't help that you had the likes of Paige and Emma, the Four Horsewomen, and Asuka before her tearing the house down, but her matches are really just filler until she hits Eclipse. It is a cool finisher, but the finish is really all she has.

She also looks like a paper champion. She had two chances at Asuka, and came up short both times. She should have been moved to the back of the line, but instead she is the first champion after the champ that no one, including Ember, could beat. She doesn't feel like a real champ, and that whole passing of the torch segment where Asuka handed her the belt was contrived.
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Not to re-open old wounds but she is basically the female Finn Balor, right down to how she has a badass entrance and finisher.
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I never thought of it like that. Now I'm sad.
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Goldberg vs Brock at Mania, MOTY?
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Good match and far exceeded expectations but just doesn't match up to other matches

Styles vs Cena and Dunne vs Bate are better
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Brock vs Goldberg III was eminently watchable. To say that it was a bad match or not on a par with the likes of Styles/Cena or even Styles/Brock is to completely miss the point.

The same kind of opinion that says Hogan/Andre is a terrible match.
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I wouldn't go that far, but I would argue that it's top 5.
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They couldn't have formulated a better match between present day Goldberg and present day Brock Lesnar, and what they represent, than that match. If that's not to your tastes, it's not to your tastes.
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It was an impeccable storyline all round.


I don't watch NJPW so for me Neville's reign was pretty good.

Alexa as RAW Champ is one I'd thought more people would talk about.
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