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Old 12-18-2017, 02:21 PM
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He's been the most interesting and entertaining guy of the three over the past few months. Tall, receding hairline guy is pretty generic and Roode has been a bumbling, deer in the headlights looking "Glorious" fool. Other than that, I don't know and don't care too much. The mid card title scenes have been pretty dark over the last 20 years. Maybe they will throw Rusev in there to pick things up. I imagine that serious Ziggler has some pretty strong opinions on the ridiculousness of Rusev Day.
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Old 12-18-2017, 03:54 PM
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I've got no problem with Ziggler as United States Champion again, he did some of the best work of his career during his first run as US champ and, in my view, he's been more entertaining than either Corbin or Roode. Corbin's a good heavy, but I never got over the impression that he had the title just for the sake of having it for a while. As for Roode, Roode is seriously miscast in his role of babyface; he was really entertaining as a heel in NXT with his "Glorious" bit and it just simply doesn't work nearly as well as a babyface.

I don't see Ziggler having a long run because being a transitional champion is basically what being US champ has been about the past few years. The last time the title felt truly important was during Cena's 4th and 5th runs and those ended over 2 years back. So yeah, Ziggler, Corbin or Roode, or anyone else really, it's not like it matters until WWE decides to bring some stability back to it.
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Old 12-19-2017, 12:10 PM
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A certain amount of hardcore fans have given up on investing in Ziggler, as evident by this thread and how many people are underwhelmed by this, but he's still over. Last night, he was just as over if not more than the guys he was in the ring with, during the Roode feud a good chunk of the audience still cheered Dolph.

I'm one of the few people who saw this win coming from a mile away it seems. The ultimate giveaway was Ziggler's recent shoot interview, where he revealed that he butted heads with Vince about how if he was gonna help younger talent, he still needs to get the win sometimes.

And guess what, he's right. You need to keep him just relevant enough for that to really work, giving him a title will do just that. I was also thinking about who would challenge AJ for the title next, and Corbin immediately came to mind. Then I thought about Roode winning it, but decided he probably wasn't because WWE likes having the babyface chase the title more. And so, Ziggler made the most sense. I honestly wasn't shocked when he won. And good for him, he's still one of the best on the roster. I'd love to see him carry it to Mania and drop it there to someone like Roode.
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So, Ziggler went on a rant, as has been his gimmick for the past several months, that culminated with him folding the United States Championship belt, dropping it in the ring and leaving it there without saying another word before heading back up the ramp.

So, will this mean the title is vacated and, if so, what should be done to decide a new champion? To be perfectly honest, I'd love a nice long round robin style tournament to determine the new champ to culminate at WrestleMania. I know it won't happen, but I'm just kinda tired of having these little one night mini tournaments, triple threats or fatal fourways to determine new champions. The title's been stagnant since John Cena dropped it to Alberto Del Rio some 2 years back, so this could be seen as a means of starting out fresh.

Most likely, however, it'll simply be a 1 on 1 match with Bobby Roode and Baron Corbin that goes down over the next few weeks.
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Old 12-20-2017, 12:17 AM
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after tonight and they showing his wins im pretty sure Dolph is done with WWE, and good he was so badly used there
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I ain't getting what's happening with United States Championship anymore. Dolph Ziggler of all people wins and then relinquishes? A tournament would be fine but why make him the champion? Not getting it. But United States Championship needs to be built back.
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This in a nutshell is why Dolph hasn't worked.

They give him a storyline where he critics gimmicks, legends, basically unravelling the layers of pro wrestling that wrestlers usually do on social media or RF shoots; and the people are only mildly amused.

Maybe the ship has sailed.
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after tonight and they showing his wins im pretty sure Dolph is done with WWE, and good he was so badly used there
He might be done in short order, but this certainly isn't the last we see of him in WWE. They wouldn't let him go out like that.

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This in a nutshell is why Dolph hasn't worked.

They give him a storyline where he critics gimmicks, legends, basically unravelling the layers of pro wrestling that wrestlers usually do on social media or RF shoots; and the people are only mildly amused.

Maybe the ship has sailed.
His ship sailed years ago. His last possible chance in WWE was that Survivor Series a few years back. When that didn't happen he was done being anything more than enhancement talent with the occasional midcard push.


What does it matter though? He's horribly overrated in the ring by his backers. They refuse to admit he's, at best, average on the mic. And he's got a stupid name. He was never going to make it to the top long term.

Not to mention anyone who defends the ZigZag as a good finishing move is delusional. If he is finally done, maybe we won't have to hear from his idiot fans who think he's on par with HBK anymore.
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Old 12-20-2017, 08:09 AM
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Have a tournament where Mahal wins the US belt. His character is perfect for that belt then if he improves then next year maybe he can go back to the main event.
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Old 12-20-2017, 09:22 AM
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Wow, this could get interesting. Could this be part of the character change? Could he come back as someone else? Drop the Ziggler brand as someone who doesn't want to be a gimmicky?

I missed the segment but from what I've read this is the most interested I've been in Dolph since Sting's Survivor Series. I hope this is going somewhere and not just a big moment for Dolph on his way out. It definitely is not a conventional way for a talent to go out.
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