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Old 11-07-2017, 05:32 AM
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If you believe everything that's been reported about those tapings, I fell like this was a really bad idea to do the tapings outside of Orlando right now. Tickets sales for those tapings was so low that they had to offer free tickets to the sellout crowd they had at bound for glory and now it'seems been reported that they are hiring kids and their families to fill out the arena.

If that's true, then I feel that like always they didn't think things true before deciding to stay in Ottawa for the tapings. The reason the ppv sold out was because it was a big event and fans we'really willing to travel to show up to the event, in fact, I was there on Sunday and at less half the arena was fans from outside ottaw which means that you lose half that audience because they won't stay to Ottawa for the week.

So you need to find a way to convince local fans to come to those tapings and their not enough fans in Ottawa to fill that place, at less in Orlando, they could count on the fact that tourists will show up to the fill the place,
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Old 11-07-2017, 06:54 AM
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Considering there are reports that Impact Wrestling is hiring actors to fill the audience, yes it was a bad idea.

I feel bad for TNA or Impact Wrestling it had promise in the early and mid 2000's. And I really want to see some sort of documentary on what went wrong. There are numerous theories on why (Dixie lying to the Network, and Hogan/Bishcoff) but I would like to know more. Perhaps it will server as a cautionary tale on running a Wrestling Promotion.

As for the city itself I never been to Ottawa but my understanding is that Ottawa, being the capital, isn't really suited for events and whatnot. Due to the city being mostly composed of Government institutions and the lack of corporate sponsorship. Even in the NHL it's difficult for the Ottawa Senators to sell out the their Arena. I believe they didn't have a sell out when they made it to the Eastern conference finals last season and Canada is a hockey crazed country. So yeah Ottawa itself might now have been the best city to host any taping or PPV event.
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Old 11-07-2017, 08:37 AM
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Considering there are reports that Impact Wrestling is hiring actors to fill the audience, yes it was a bad idea.

I feel bad for TNA or Impact Wrestling it had promise in the early and mid 2000's. And I really want to see some sort of documentary on what went wrong. There are numerous theories on why (Dixie lying to the Network, and Hogan/Bishcoff) but I would like to know more.
What went wrong is that the JArretts and Carters always thought there was room for a new WCW or Ric Flair NWA, when there was, at best, room for a new ECW, an upstart, niche, alternative promotion. WWE was the Budweiser in the analogy, and bought out and bought out Coors and Miller. Instead of figuring out how to be profitable as Sam Adams, they lost money hand over fist trying to make Stroh's happen. And now they've been surpassed by Shiner (ROH) and Guinness (NJPW, the prestige foreign import) and Rolling Rock (NXT), and they don't really have a financial edge anymore over local coalitions of craft brewers.

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Old 11-07-2017, 09:44 AM
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I wonder if it could've helped if Bound For Glory was in Toronto instead of Ottawa.

Regardless, PPV might have been sold out but hiring actors to play the audience in the tapings tells that it was actually a bad decision. I keep wondering how much this company goes through and still survives. Like always.
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Bad idea? No. Poorly executed? Yes.

The problem, as always, is that this is being done in a marathon setting. They're taping for what, six days? BFG was a one-night thing. Anyone traveling could do so, maybe spend the night in a hotel, and then go home the next day. Holding tapings every night for the next week, in effect, means you have to have the support of the local market and/or surrounding markets, which they probably don't. This is why Orlando wasn't as big of an issue. They were at Universal Studios, so there was always the potential to market free tickets to a wrestling show at park-goers. The same isn't true now. The fact they were giving away tickets isn't even shocking. But having to pay to entice anyone to fill seats is.
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Old 11-07-2017, 09:47 AM
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I wonder if it could've helped if Bound For Glory was in Toronto instead of Ottawa.

Regardless, PPV might have been sold out but hiring actors to play the audience in the tapings tells that it was actually a bad decision. I keep wondering how much this company goes through and still survives. Like always.
Maybe. Given the proximity, you could probably have brought over a few more American fans from Buffalo. Braxton Sutter is from there, as are a few other Impact stars, and they do have some local connections.
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I'm actually thinking that Ottawa is not as big a problem as weeknights.

This is a niche product. Not just pro wrestling, which isn't everyone's cup of tea, but "alternative", off-brand/hipster, bingo-hall wrestling. For a show with guys you've probably never heard of, aside from two or three guys you've seen under different names on WWE TV.

And you want people to come out on weeknights when they have to work in the morning. After the people who are interested in the product have already come out to see the show-of-the-year on Sunday night.

At Universal Studios, you could kind of get away with this, because you have tnes of thousands of vacationers walking by, so you could hope for a few hundred to do something once in a lifetime, on a whim. At least it's air conditioned--that's the main feature of half the rides and attractions in Orlando.

That's not the situation in Canada, where you have to leave your warm, comfy house and break your routine and drive (or maybe public transit I don't know) downtown (or wherever) to the arena, er, pavilion.

I think weeknights are a bigger culprit than Ottawa vs Toronto or Montreal or Chicago.
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Old 11-07-2017, 01:18 PM
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Yeah, there could be something there, too. I'd imagine the turnout for filming on a Friday or Saturday night is probably significantly greater than that of a Tuesday or Wednesday, especially when you consider the fact these are often upward of four and a half hours long per night. That's a lot to take in during a work week.
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Maybe future tapings should be scheduled on a weekend (if Impact Wrestling makes it into 2018).
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That's a logistical nightmare. The reason they do these large blocks is that it allows them to pay their crew and their talent for, in effect, one long event held over N number of days. They then chop that up to produce however many weeks of content it will ultimately produce. Often upwards of eight weeks worth of shows. By limiting themselves to weekends (or, really, just two nights), they'd be forced to re-book venues (which could also be a problem, in and of itself, assuming one weekend or two may not be available), which means having to pay crew and talent for each of those weekends.
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