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View Poll Results: When do you see the inevitable?
Shocking as it may be, chances are that he doesn't return following his next hiatus 1 4.35%
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Not any time soon 13 56.52%
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Old 09-02-2017, 01:52 AM
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Default How long before John Cena retires?

John Cena made his Pro Wrestling debut 19 years ago and has been on top of the wrestling world since with 18 career Heavyweight titles, 16 that count, 5 United States Titles, 5 Tag Titles, 2 Royal Rumbles, Money In The Bank, Defeating likes of The Rock, Brock Lesnar, Batista, Kurt Angle, Triple H, Randy Orton, Eddie Guerrero, Chris Jericho, Shawn Michaels among others. Its clear John had had hella success, even being the Face of WWE for 12 years.

In recent, Cena has made it clear that he's not going to be wrestling much long. John Cena retiring is definitely not a day I'm looking forward to as someone who grew up on. When John debuted I was 4 years old, I'm currently 19 and just graduated College in may. With Cena's agents now telling him when to wrestle due to movies its clear that the time is up sooner rather than later. This feels a little bit too much like 2004-2005 with The Rock.

Question is how long does John has left in WWE realistically before that happens?
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Old 09-02-2017, 04:16 AM
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As for Cena it depends on the success of his next, and first, starring role. If it's a hit then demands for him in movies will start to pile up. And, just like Dwayne Jonhsons' agents, they will tell him to stop wrestling altogether.

I guess when this happens we can finally call Cena a hypocrite with his previous comments on Dwayne Johnson

Though Cena might still be able to make appearances in the WWE and won't distance himself from the company which The Rock did. The difference being is that The Rock was told to distance himself from the WWE because the company was still fresh off the attitude era and were still doing some controversial angles like Necrophilia, Hot Lesbian Action, Rape, and fighting God. So at the time Rock's agents didn't want to associate himself with WWE's low brow humor. Now with the PG era I think Cena's agents might be ok for him to make the occasional appearance even if it's in a non-wrestling capacity.
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As for Cena it depends on the success of his next, and first, starring role. If it's a hit then demands for him in movies will start to pile up. And, just like Dwayne Jonhsons' agents, they will tell him to stop wrestling altogether.

I guess when this happens we can finally call Cena a hypocrite with his previous comments on Dwayne Johnson
Cena never criticized Rock for going to Hollywood. He criticized him for never coming back despite saying he loved WWE. Cena is 40. He can't handle a full time schedule. He isn't a hypocrite.
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Old 09-02-2017, 04:33 AM
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Cena never criticized Rock for going to Hollywood. He criticized him for never coming back despite saying he loved WWE. Cena is 40. He can't handle a full time schedule. He isn't a hypocrite.
Exactly but as Cena is getting closer to The Rock's position the more we are seeing the trend of Cena doing less and less appearance each year.

Let's be honest here if Cena was being offered huge Hollywood roles 10 years ago I am sure he would have been a part time guy by the already.

The only thing I don't see Cena doing is distancing himself from the WWE like what The Rock did after his contract was done. But remember WWE, at the time, was seen as low brow trashy entertainment with many people under 50 started dying (including the much publicized Chris Benoit murder suicide story) no competent agent would ever let their clients appear in the WWE in any meaningful capacity.
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Exactly but as Cena is getting closer to The Rock's position the more we are seeing the trend of Cena doing less and less appearance each year.
Rock - Around 30. Cold turkey quits WWE. Says he loves WWE. Never comes back.

Cena - 40. Can't do a full time schedule. Hasn't quit WWE.

Big difference. Cena is winding down like everyone does when they get to his age. Only difference is his spare time is spent doing movies instead of sleeping in.

By the way, I don't think there's anything wrong with what Rock did.

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Let's be honest here if Cena was being offered huge Hollywood roles 10 years ago I am sure he would have been a part time guy by the already.
Speculation.

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The only thing I don't see Cena doing is distancing himself from the WWE like what The Rock did after his contract was done. But remember WWE, at the time, was seen as low brow trashy entertainment with many people under 50 started dying (including the much publicized Chris Benoit murder suicide story) no competent agent would ever let their clients appear in the WWE in any meaningful capacity.
Rock left years before the Benoit thing. Had zero impact on him. Rock has said that he regrets taking that advice.
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Rock - Around 30. Cold turkey quits WWE. Says he loves WWE. Never comes back.
Like I said it's probably more about his agent than anything. He had to distance himself from the WWE, WWE was pretty toxic at the time and he needed to make it work for himself in Hollywood.

Also, The Rock didn't quit, his contract was up in 2004. Plus it doesn't matter if it's 30 or 40 when you are given an opportunity to star in Hollywood movies and become a star any person would take it.

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Or common sense. Considering the schedule, the money, and fame you get from being a Hollywood actor as opposed to being having to do a WWE schedule.

Like I said Cena had no right to criticize The Rock at the time not being in the same position as The Rock. And that's the problem I have with him.

Come on let's face it Cena, at the time, was way over his head he compared himself to The Rock back then because he was doing movies for WWE Films. And we know doing movies produced by the WWE and comparing that to doing movies for Disney and Universal is pretty laughable. Plus considering what The Rock did for the company (despite being in the Company only for 7 years) Cena was in no position to call out The Rock.

You can call out The Rock for other things but not leaving, it's not The Rock's fault that WWE screwed up in the later years.

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Rock left years before the Benoit thing. Had zero impact on him. Rock has said that he regrets taking that advice.
But he never made an appearance after the whole Benoit thing until 2011.

Plus it just wasn't Benoit is was the WWE product at the time. The Attitude Era, the HLA, Necrophilia, story lines.

And even in the Attitude Era or the boom period Wrestling was considered equivalent to the Jerry Springer show.

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I'm torn between not any time soon and that it's hard to predict, though I'm leaning more towards the former. One of the primary reasons for Cena's success is that he's bled WWE for the better part of 15 years, nobody that's debuted in WWE since the Undertaker has been as loyal and as much of a company man as John Cena so I just don't see him leaving within the foreseeable future.

If Cena's movie career takes off, however, then all bets are off the table. As with the Rock, Cena is someone that's long since accomplished everything there is in WWE so it's easy to picture Cena staying as him merely spinning his wheels. If his movie career doesn't reach lofty heights within the next year or two, then I can see him staying until he's about 45 or so before hanging it up.
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Xena is one heel turn away from retirement....

He will milk that long before he steps away from the ring...

And then their will be uneviatable face comeback after that... I could see him going ten more years as a part timer just based on those two storylines alone.
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Not soon enough. The reality is that his film career will never explode so we'll have the same part time schedule for another twenty to thirty years.
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I'd say it's very hard to predict. Whether or not his next movie is a big hit isn't what I'm concerned with. Instead, I think back to when The Rock left the WWE. He was in fantastic physical shape, delivering great matches, continuing to refresh his character and his promos, and he went out on top when he could have easily had another solid ten years of in ring competition. But he chose not to, and the story goes on from there. So for me, I look at John Cena, who is obviously older than what Rock was at that point in 2003, and see something quite similar. He isn't a battered, old veteran who can't do it anymore. In fact, I think Cena has aged like wine so far as his match quality is concerned. But his opportunities outside of WWE (whether it's film, television appearances, or just being a celebrity at this point) are stacking up so high that he doesn't need the WWE anymore. Just like when Rock left in 2003, which in retrospect was quite predictable, I think it's quite predictable to believe that Cena could do just the same thing despite the fact that he can still hang with everybody on the roster. But as Rock has said, he had done it all, as has Cena, and depending on what kind of person you are depends on whether you want to continue doing and achieving new things.

What separates Cena from Rock (and I only use Rock as a comparison because he's the closest we have to this situation) is two things really. Firstly, I don't believe Cena can be the movie star that Dwayne Johnson has become. It's immense what Rock has achieved and it's impossible to think of a schedule where he would be regularly appearing in WWE and in Hollywood. So, I don't know if the demand for Cena to step away from the ring would be that great that it would be permanent. And while film isn't all that Cena could do, it seems to be the primary draw away from his wrestling career. Secondly, Cena has been an active member of the main roster since 2002. Over 15 years later, he remains at the top of the card competing in match of the year level bouts. Much like Chris Jericho, his more recent runs have seen him engage in feuds with new and rising stars and has helped raise the stock of many new talents in WWE. No doubt is he still at the top, but his role is clear by now. At his age and at this point in his career, I don't see a clear period where Cena would suddenly decide that he no longer wants or needs to continue competing. Cena could have called it quits a long time ago and it hasn't happened yet. Unlike Rock, he didn't leave when he had done it all, but he continued for the love and support of the business. So I actually wonder whether age will become a factor before any career outside of WWE. And to that notion, a guy like Triple H, who remains in fantastic shape at almost 50, proves that Cena could remain doing what he does now for another ten years to come.

Cena could retire tomorrow, and I'd likely be shocked, but I wouldn't be disappointed considering what he has given for WWE. He could retire in two, three, four, or however many years time. It's unpredictable at this point and I think that's a good thing for us as fans to not have an expiration date to remain focused on, like many fans do with a guy like The Undertaker.
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