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Old 10-10-2017, 03:26 PM
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To be clear, I don't think WWE bringing Sister Abigail to life as an actual character is necessarily a bad thing. This is despite my feelings that "she" has far more potential and longevity as a never seen, never heard from, but ever-present apparition in the mind of Bray Wyatt. I'm also not against Bray Wyatt playing the part of Abigail himself, as I believe he's talented enough to pull off the character in a way that's both entertaining and downright freightening.

Unfortunately, the segement I saw on RAW last night revealing Sister Abigail was neither of those.

My guess is that someone in WWE creative must really have an affinity for early 90's WCW. Upon the lame warp effect used to transform Wyatt into Abigail, this segment had Black Scorpion written all over it... from the dimly lit shrouded figure to the cheap vocalizer effects that would routinely fail out, revealing Bray's own voice when he began speaking after a pause. All that was missing was Abigail throwing random dates and locations at Balor and they would've had the whole thing. I wonder if next week Abigail will disappear a tiger or make a fans head spin around in a circle...

Jokes aside, I've got to imagine that there was a much better way to not introduce, but unleash Abigail upon the WWE Universe. Personally, I would've preferred her to be in the ring with Balor rather than via satellite. Build up her entrance and give her the slow creep a la Undertaker. Everybody knows it's Bray under the shroud so why even try to obscure those details? Pull his hair back into a makeshift ponytail and smear blood red lipstick on him as if it were applied with one of those extra large permanent markers. Give her some variant of Bray's own attire with burn marks on the bottom half representing Abigails pain. Scrawl something like "Inside Out" backwards across her forehead. A shrilly, screetching voice is probably on order here, along with a bouquet of dying roses for Balor. Blowing a kiss to Balor as she makes her exit could provide the exclamation point.

In other words, use "Abigail" to solidify the concept that there is something truly, truly wrong inside the mind of Bray Wyatt. I think his current character is at somewhat of a crossroads where WWE needs to either pull the trigger and go big or begin walking it back. Honorable mention to Finn Balor though for trying his heart out to sell the debut of Sister Abigail as something truly cringe worthy.

I definitely cringed.
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Old 10-10-2017, 04:01 PM
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I have to be honest...it was the first time in over 10 years that I actually made a point to DVR Raw because I wanted to see what happened with this. ...and I liked it! Haha!

Now, to be fair, my favorite eras of wrestling were back when characters and storylines were big deals. So, this was a welcomed throw back for me. I am someone who got the Network and, aside from Mania and the end of a few other PPVs that I didn't realize were on until I went to watch something else, I have watched nothing but 80s and 90s PPVs, Raws and Prime Time Wrestling (and Tough Enough Season 1...but that didn't take long). My point is, I am not "today's fan". I can see how someone who takes WWE seriously can find this disappointing or, worse, infuriating. But for me, the casual fan who enjoys old school wrestling way more than today's product, this was cool.

Bray needs to realize that the voice distortion only works for certain pitches and not when he gets louder or whispers, but otherwise, it was cool. Not so much what he said or how it looked...just that brief moment of craziness from years past coming back--it was a welcomed segment. I find Bray awesome--his entrance, his mic work, his matches...more so how he carries himself in them than the results or his usage...but I find him a very rare interesting character that is missing, for me, in today's product. I saw some mention of the birth of the hand or Katie Vick. I don't think it was anywhere near that ridiculous. It might end up being bad, but so far, I liked it! It has potential and, although recent history tells me otherwise, I'll watch and hope it becomes something memorable. But, like I said, it's easier for me to accept it failing because I am not invested anymore. For those that are, I hope we are all pleasantly surprised.
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Old 10-10-2017, 04:04 PM
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Perhaps the production element could have been improved, but I have to say that I really enjoyed it. The idea that Bray is possessed by Sister Abigail entertains the hell out of me, and I definitely don't think that it's too far fetched an idea. It's fresh for Bray and in ways I think it brings him down to earth as a character who appears less supernatural, and more insane.

There's quite a few people who have hated on this, and honestly some of their arguments are so flawed. People think that this makes Bray seem like more of a supernatural character and that WWE are insulting their intelligence. This is just dumb because if this was Undertaker or Kane, nobody would complain. Sure, Bray isn't either of them two, but the point still remains. Plus, I don't think this insults our intelligence as I didn't see this as some supernatural weirdness, although I'm perfectly okay if it was. I saw this as more of an extension of Bray's deranged character.

Again, I understand the flaws in production. But the idea was there and I really enjoyed the concept. Hopefully this grows. I don't think this is a new low for Bray at all. But by now we should all be used to who Bray Wyatt is and what role his character fulfils.
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Huh? You can't possibly draw conclusions from anything you saw on Raw. That was just a creepy promo that drove the story in no particular direction. It could just be mind games, it could be some ugly lady, it could be a gender fluid Bray, it could anything. This story has had no payoff at all as nothing was really "revealed".

Don't get me wrong. Wyatt has been one of the most disappointing characters in WWE history with his long winded promos, directionless actions, hypocrisy, and booking but this storyline has not even begun to climax. I expect that climax to come at TLC or SS.
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It was seriously dumb. Only thing that could match that is when Bray shows up and acts like Goldust in his early career.
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Do people not realize how much this is drawing from Psycho and Norman Bates? I honestly think if you look at it from that perspective as opposed to “lol a man dressing as a woman, that will never get over” then it works or much better.

Besides, the same lot of you who are criticizing this are likely the same ones who get erections over The Demon, which is just as stupid as you are trying to make this out to be. “Oh man, he uses the same music and same move set and still sells the same but now he puts on red and black body paint and wears some headdress.”
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Calling this a "low point" would be an understatement. That "Sister Abigail" promo destroyed what little credibility Bray Wyatt had left. They ruined a perfectly good opportunity to bring Paige back or even to bring Ruby Riot up from NXT for the character. Bray is a man. No male should be portraying a female character. I can only suspend disbelief so far, I have to draw the line here. It was extremely stupid. Maybe not Fake Trump VS Fake Rosie levels of stupid, let alone Katie Vick or Mae Young's Hand levels of stupid, but it was colossally stupid. Easily the worst thing I have seen on WWE television in the last several years. I was a big fan of Bray but I'm at the point of giving up on him forever. If he truly is playing the "Sister Abigail" character and comes out into a match dressed up like an undead girl, I'm boycotting Bray. People criticized him summoning bugs into the ring at Wrestlemania. That was nothing compared to this. It was horrible and whoever at WWE Creative made the decision to not have a woman portray the character should be ashamed of themselves.
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I enjoyed the promo last night and I didn't really expect to and it had a lot to do with some of the mystique of the Wyatt character being on display. Bray Wyatt used to do some creepy stuff and say creepy stuff in his promos and last night was a return to that.

The feeling I get is that Bray will come out as though he's "transformed" somehow like Balor when he's in his "Demon" persona. My initial reaction to that was that I felt pretty underwhelmed but now I'm not so certain. Could he be both transformed and could Sister Abigail actually appear in person? I'm not sure as the promo was still sort of vague in that sense.

As a fan, I think I've let myself be influenced too much by the general pessimism of the internet and I want to work on that. Wrestling is all about suspension of disbelief and while I agree that there are limits, over the top stuff like this is part of what made wrestling so enjoyable 20 years ago.
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That was seriously the first thing I thought of when it happened. Psycho was one of the first horror movies I watched and that scene in the shower lives on with me.

Thinking about it, it's the only thing they can really do outside of bringing an actual woman into it. And with the PG rating, you can't have Balor fighting a woman in the ring. It will be interesting to see how they bring out the Sister Abigail character when Bray is in the ring now, but I didn't hate it.

The only thing I do question is, why did he ever need a family when he had Sister Abigail waiting in the wings the whole time.
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Low point? Where were you guys when Ghost Bray came out of a lantern? Where were you when a projector showed stock video of bugs at Wrestlemania? Or every single cheesy jumpscare ending of a Bray promo? He can possess a choir fool of children but being possessed by the spirit of an old chick is crossing the line? Please. He's supposed to be doing creepy things. There's a whole list of horror movies that do what Bray is obviously doing. If this is what breaks your suspension of disbelief, I don't know how anyone survived Undertaker and Kane.

Paige and Ruby Riot aren't remotely like what Bray described Sister Abigail to be. It would have been a huge disservice to the fans who watched Riot and Paige somehow randomly develop that gimmick. This was the only logical thing they could have done with Sister Abigail, especially since Balor can't outright fight Paige or Riot. Time will tell if this sucks but there was nothing wrong with Bray's promo. If anything the digital effects could have been loads better. But that acting? Top.

Finally they're doing something with Bray that isn't his normal blabbering bullshit. I'm pretty stoked.
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