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Old 08-25-2017, 07:34 PM
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By the obvious ripping off of a famous Vince McMahon quote, you may have guessed that this thread is about my opinion on the recent fall from grace Baron Corbin has had the last few weeks. And...well, you're right.

But before anything else, I need to set up a picture. So I will:

Baron Corbin came into WWE in 2016 in a big way by surprisingly winning the Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal, before this; he was making a name for himself in NXT first as a bad ass face who would squash lesser opponents in rapid fashion and then later as a ruthless heel who took no prisoners. The year afterwards would see him shine having some really good matches with Kalisto, Dolph Ziggler and roll through the SmackDown roster with relative ease. By December, he was main eventing SmackDown for the WWE championship.

This year started off great for him, he was facing off against people like John Cena, Randy Orton, Sami Zayn, A.J Styles and even then Intercontinental Champion Dean Ambrose. He was impressing many with his talent and was awarded by being Mr. Money in the Bank, he even got a feud with John Cena. It looked like everything was going his way...

And then he lost his cash-in to Jinder Mahal. And then he lost to John Cena in a little over 10 minutes. All of a sudden, reports came in that Baron Corbin had a terrible attitude backstage, taking his 'lone wolf' gimmick at bit further than just kayfabe and even getting into a twitter fights with Dave Meltzer of all people. And just now, i've gotten the word from WrestleTalk that the reason for Baron Corbin's loss at SummerSlam might have been because John Cena told creative that he wasn't ready for this spot.

So, what happened? How did we come to this point for Baron Corbin?

Simple: Like the title of this thread said, Baron Corbin screwed Baron Corbin.

I can understand being a heel is an important guideline to abide to in professional wrestling, something that still holds up even as kayfabe continues to grow more and more irrelevant each day but there is a difference between acting like a heel and actually being one and judging by what I and a lot of us have heard these last few days, Baron Corbin is kind of a dick. Getting into an argument with perhaps the most popular wrestling columnist in history is not helping the cause as it only serves to make you look even worse.

And when you've gone so far as to piss off the biggest name the company has outside of Brock Lesnar and Roman Reigns, you know you've done something wrong. In fact, it was reported that Baron was chewed out in front the entire locker room and creative; he's only done that to one other wrestler (Alex Riley) and look what ended up happening to him. We've talked a lot about how Cena is one of the people who hold a 'golden shovel' over the years and how he's either halted some wrestling careers or even wrecked them completely. But if what we've heard from Baron Corbin is true; I think he kind of deserved it.

Baron Corbin was on the cusp on being a world champ, he was said to have cashed in his contract at SummerSlam and take it away from Shinsuke Nakamura. If he had kept his mouth shut, he probably would and could have been world champion. Was he ready for it? Who knows? He may have not always been the best promo, but as a wrestler he was and still is a good worker. I don't know whether or not his ego started to get the better of him after winning MiTB or if he was always like this; but in wrestling, as well as in other businesses; you have to keep a professional outlook on your prospects and understand your flaws so you can have the best possible career for you. And especially this, do not piss off the top names of the company OR the board. That is one of the many death sentences you can face in WWE and can (and usually does) kill any chance of you being worth a damn if you're lucky.

Maybe i'm coming off a little too hard on him and if that's the case, I respect your viewpoint. But at the end of the day, Baron Corbin had the opportunity to be a main event player on SmackDown; maybe even WWE in general and he blew it. Whether or not he was ready for a shot like this is a debate for another day, but I don't think anyone can deny that Baron Corbin royally damaged his career prospects if these story have any merit to them. (And if the recent dirt sheet record has anything to do with it, they probably do)

In short: Don't be shocked if Baron Corbin loses to people like Chad Gable or Breezango, maybe even to Tye Dillinger at some point. In the immortal words of Vince McMahon, Baron Corbin screwed Baron Corbin. And he's going to have with to deal with it for the rest of his life. Baron screwed Baron, I have no sympathy for him whatsoever.
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Old 08-25-2017, 08:00 PM
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Wow dude that's a book.

I mean, Corbin did in a way screw himself up on his push. If the rumors are true about Corbin being in a heated altercation with Cena, then that alone was a foot towards the grave. He buried himself. You don't go toe to toe with Cena in the locker room or you get nowhere fast.

Corbin is boring and bland to me personally. He needs to fix his damn hair then working on his wrestling then prove he is main event worthy. WWE thought he was but they seem to think anyone who messes with Cena is no longer a priority.
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Old 08-25-2017, 08:23 PM
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You said it twice, and I shall repeat it the third time. Screwed or not, he wasn't ready anyway. Unless I know exactly what happened backstage, I don't really care about dirt sheets like this.
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Yeah, Corbin overall seems like quite the douchebag and I couldn't be happier that they had his cash-in attempt fail. He comes off as having a real attitude problem and being the type that will never admit that he does anything wrong. I doubt anything that Cena or anyone else says to him will ever sink in and I'd honestly be surprised if he's still around in a couple years. It would be one thing if he had the things you look for in a superstar, then maybe you could tolerate him and be willing to be more patient with him, but he sucks in the ring, he sucks on the microphone, he's annoying just to look at (nice skullet pal), and his new theme and entrance aren't any better than the last one. It reminds me of all those generic ones they went through with Wade Barrett before they finally came up with the one that started out with "God save our queen", which wasn't bad.

I read that they are making him take his shirt off recently as punishment since he's really insecure about his belly button that looks like a big mouth. If that's true, I find it pretty hilarious. A friend of mine made fun of his hairline on Twitter and Baron blocked him. Lol wow, the thin skin on this guy.
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Yeah, Corbin overall seems like quite the douchebag and I couldn't be happier that they had his cash-in attempt fail. He comes off as having a real attitude problem and being the type that will never admit that he does anything wrong. I doubt anything that Cena or anyone else says to him will ever sink in and I'd honestly be surprised if he's still around in a couple years. It would be one thing if he had the things you look for in a superstar, then maybe you could tolerate him and be willing to be more patient with him, but he sucks in the ring, he sucks on the microphone, he's annoying just to look at (nice skullet pal), and his new theme and entrance aren't any better than the last one. It reminds me of all those generic ones they went through with Wade Barrett before they finally came up with the one that started out with "God save our queen", which wasn't bad.

I read that they are making him take his shirt off recently as punishment since he's really insecure about his belly button that looks like a big mouth. If that's true, I find it pretty hilarious. A friend of mine made fun of his hairline on Twitter and Baron blocked him. Lol wow, the thin skin on this guy.
I heard. I also heard that he threw a 'hissy fit' after losing to Cena backstage.

Apparently Baron Corbin is kind of a petulant child.
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eh, oh well. im not even a baron corbin guy anyways so im glad he blew his chance to win the championship. this gives jinder more time to show what hes got, hopefully now that shinsuke is out the way he can move into a legit program. and for the love of god vince at least try and switch up those similar anti american promos please
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also we are talking about history here guys he would have forever been in the books as wwe champion if he was to cash in the mitb briefcase. like someone pointed out in a previous reply corbin is just not ready right now. he needs more time to hone his craft before being given the wwe championship as his first ever championship, ffs have him go after the us title or something to at least get an idea of what it would be like to be champion
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I couldn't really wrap around my head as to why they gave him the briefcase in the first place. If it's because they were hoping if they let him hold onto it for nearly the full year and maybe he'd be ready by then, well that's not much of a reason. If it was because they just didn't have anyone else they could think of to give it to this year, again that's a lame reason. I would rather see them not even have the match rather than crown a guy Mr. MITB just because they feel obligated to do it once a year. It just seems like they didn't have much of a plan this time around. I thought MITB should have been an interpromotional ppv and I probably would've gone with Samoa Joe or Rusev. Guys who also have yet to be WWE/Universal Champion, but could easily be booked as such.
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lmao and people say kayfabe is dead.

Corbin plays an arrogant douchebag on TV, carries the character over to Twitter (getting into arguments on the internet fits his character perfectly), and you're all lapping it up that his bad attitude has landed him in hot water backstage.

The higher ups probably realised he isn't ready to be WWE champion, so they knocked him down a couple of pegs and are giving him more time to learn more before they push him back to the top.

You said yourself, he debuted 18 months ago. "Jobbing" to Cena at Summerslam doesn't mean he'll never make it back to the top. This was his first real "main event" PPV match. He went from MiTB, to a PPV match with Cena, and now appears to be moving on to a championship program with AJ Styles. What about that suggests he's being "buried"?

I read on WZ a few days ago about how Cena could be seen/heard saying something like "Nothing is about you! You aint done shit here yet", and tried to spin it as if Cena was schooling him infront of the live audience. But if you go back and watch the match, Cena has a smile on his face and seems more like he's teaching Corbin about crowd reaction. And given the hostile smark reactions Corbin's been suffering the past few weeks, who better to put him in the ring with than the master of smarky crowd reactions?

Honestly, this seems like a classic example of dirtsheets making a story where there isn't one. Meltzer obviously doesn't like the guy, so is it really a suprise that everything he has to say about him is negative? Just my opinion of course, but I'd say it's fairly obvious Corbin is still being groomed to be a top heel in the future.
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I love reading those type of thread based on rumors an innuendos. Just because baron lost his briefcase, doesn't mean that they aren't hgh on him, I just says that they realise he wasn't ready for a title push just yet and want to groom him so that he become a big main event heel.

I don't believe anything that's being reported about him having heat because his twitter comments because that the type of stuf, that vince would probably encourage. You also have to remember, that when you look at his career since his debut in nxt, how many big matches did he won on ppv or nxt specials? So the fact that fans thought that because he got the briefcase meant that they we're pushing him big is just that thinking. I think corbin is just fine and someday he will be a world champion when they think he's ready to get push to that level, not he still wrestling main eventers so he's doing just fine.
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