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Old 03-24-2017, 07:33 AM
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Alberto Del Rio {WWE}


Alberto Del Rio joined WWE in 2009 and had his stint until 2014 when he was fired. He made a surprise return after just more than an year defeating John Cena of all people for the United States Championship and then had his last match in August 2016, thus ending his second stint in WWE.

Let's get his accomplishments first:
  • WWE Championship 2
  • World Heavyweight Championship 2
  • WWE United States Championship 2
  • Money In The Bank (2011)
  • Royal Rumble (2011)

He's the first wrestler to win Royal Rumble and Money In The Bank briefcase in the same year. As far as accomplishments are concerned, he achieved some big accolades by winning the ultimate title of each brand.

I personally liked him more in his first stint rather than the second where he was involved in the stable League Of Nations. I have always liked him as a face and he was a face in WWE for just 6 months before a double turn took place with Dolph Ziggler.

I think that he could have been a more successful wrestler if he was a face rather than being a heel for so long. He's quite good in the ring but on mic, he always needed a good mouthpiece.

Question: Your thoughts about Alberto Del Rio's both stints in WWE?
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Old 03-24-2017, 09:25 AM
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I'm not really sure where it went wrong for Alberto Del Rio.

I always enjoyed Alberto. I enjoyed his character, and to be honest, I never thought he needed another mouthpiece. Him and Ricardo Rodriguez mouthing off together was enough for me, it entertained me. A Mexican Aristocrat who in many cases looked a bit of a coward, but in the end brought it in the ring and was one of the best on the roster in his time.

Ultimately, I think they burned the character out. The Royal Rumble win amounted to nothing, and when he did cash in Money in the Bank, it was on CM Punk at the worst possible time. I'm not sure if that turned people off. Then the feud with Ziggler happened and everyone was so behind Ziggler at the time. If you think of it that way, I suppose nothing really quite worked out for him the way the WWE maybe anticipated. I don't know.

I hope he doesn't come back to the WWE. Not because I don't enjoy his presence, but because they don't seem to know how to work with him. The second stint was memorable because he beat John Cena for the US title on his return match. Oh and he dates Paige now. That's literally it. Such a shame.
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Old 03-24-2017, 10:27 AM
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Good technical wrestler. Unfortunately he has charisma of a frying pan. He was given one of the most easiest gimmicks in the world- rich obnoxious heel. And still didnt get over even though he was pushed to the moon. And only reason he was pushed was because they needed to find substitute for Rey Mysterio because of catering to spanish audience. So if you ask me, he got a lot more then he really deserved.
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Old 03-24-2017, 12:00 PM
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I have mixed emotions about Del Rio. I see him as someone who was good, but not great.

I enjoyed his earlier feuds on Smackdown with Christian, Matt Hardy, Edge, and most notably Rey Mysterio. Then he was drafted to Raw where wwe began to overexpose him, imo. They tried to push him as the foil for Cm Punk and John Cena, but he wasn't on their level. It also didn't help while winning MITB, the wwe championship, and the Royal Rumble , he was being booked as an afterthought throughout.

Del Rio had a great look/character and he was great in the ring, but his lack of charisma pretty much killed everything else for fans. WWE had potential in Del Rio, but they ruined him by forcing it.
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When Del Rio first debuted he used to come out in the fancy expensive cars, had is own personal ring announcer and the gimmick was special. Not only that the guy could go in the ring. As time went on though and his real personality began to show through, which as someone else said was the equivalent of a "frying pan", he didn't seem so special anymore. It was all smoke and mirrors.

When he came back after the racist remark fiasco, he didn't have all the dog and pony show with the cars and whatnot, he began to fizzle for me. It was pretty obvious he was brought in to replace Rey Mysterio but he didn't have the charisma and wasn't kid friendly like Mysterio had been. He was this upper crust Latino with a chip on his shoulder, his actions off screen didn't help him much either.

Don't get me wrong the guy is a good technical wrestler but he did nothing for the US title after winning it off Cena, I could have done more for it and I don't wrestle. Did anyone really care that he left again, I didn't, and now he's TNA's problem.
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I completely agree. He was a solid heel but not one that was as over as most of the top guys. However when he returned there was some potential.

Winning US Title from Cena clean (that was great)
Pairing him with Zeb Colter (that was dumb)
Losing the US Title to Kalisto (that was dumb)

He should have remained unbeaten in singles until Cena returned setting up the big rematch. That would've made more sense. Also think the League of Nations should've been more dominant. They were portrayed pretty weak at times and with a collection of Sheamus, Del Rio, Rusev, and Barrett that was pretty stupid. At one point they should've had Barrett & Rusev win tag gold so they all had straps. That would've made sense in building your dominant heel faction.

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Old 03-25-2017, 09:29 AM
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I completely agree. He was a solid heel but not one that was as over as most of the top guys. However when he returned there was some potential.

Winning US Title from Cena clean (that was great)
Pairing him with Zeb Colter (that was dumb)
Losing the US Title to Kalisto (that was dumb)

He should have remained unbeaten in singles until Cena returned setting up the big rematch. That would've made more sense. Also think the League of Nations should've been more dominant. They were portrayed pretty weak at times and with a collection of Sheamus, Del Rio, Rusev, and Barrett that was pretty stupid. At one point they should've had Barrett & Rusev win tag gold so they all had straps. That would've made sense in building your dominant heel faction.
League Of Nations should've been dominant. At least for me. But the main motive of making this pointless stable was to get bunch of cheers from the audience towards Roman Reigns which of course couldn't happen. Roman Reigns was cheered heavily when he was on destroyer mode. But then he became the same person and the audience gave him the same boos. The thing that backfired here was that League Of Nations didn't get any significant heat. It was just a pointless stable with pointless booking.
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Old 03-25-2017, 10:32 AM
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How do you screw up the League of Nations? Seriously, thinking back that group should have done incredible things with the make-up of talent that they had there. Barrett, Sheamus, Rusev, and Del Rio, all good hands and all strong in their own way, working together as a well-oiled machine. I honestly don't remember much of them but I remember that they were lame as hell, which again, is shocking considering the potential that was in that group.

As for Del Rio, the guy was good. He was good enough to be a World champion and an upper-card mainstay. He wasn't good enough however, to be a multiple time World champion, a RR winner, and somebody that was ultimately put over as one of the best of his era. I don't think there was anything wrong with ADR, but there was definitely something missing. The guy just couldn't seem to evolve from what he came in as and eventually, he got boring... like really, really boring.

I mean, sure he was good in the ring, but every match was the same. Every promo was the same. For 4 years. As Kapu mentioned, maybe a face turn would have freshened things up but I honestly don't think he could have pulled it off very well. His first face run was pretty standard. All in all, he was a solid wrestler who grossly overachieved.
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Alberto Del Rio came in as a guy who thought he was great, and to prove this he would finish his matches with an armbar.

It was Mr. Kennedy all over again for me, it was another person who was all "Look at me, I'm awesome!" only to turn out to be a wet blanket.

Victimizing Rey Mysterio, at that point, wasn't much of a way to get the crowd to hate you. Del Rio segments were a great time to grab some snacks and use the bathroom, they most certainly weren't interesting or a means of furthering an interesting storyline. He was all "Destiny!" this and "Pero!" that. Maybe it was a lack of endearing faces to match up with him, but he was never even slightly interesting while he was in the WWE.

Alberto's Royal Rumble win was meh. It was one of those Royal Rumble wins that weren't climactic or mandated by storylines, it just happened and it was the least memorable thing in regard to that Royal Rumble. His Money in the Bank cash-in was forgettable as well, especially considering he had already attempted and failed to cash-in once before then.

He's neat when he gets a mean look in his eyes, but his potential to excite me stops when the bell rings. I don't want him to not succeed, but he's nowhere near as big with me as he's made out to be by the bookers.
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Where do I even begin with this one? Another example of the lost generation of 2010-11.

I think the main problem with Del Rio was that he was pushed way to high on the card, way too soon, plus his booking and gimmick were terrible..

Strike A) Wins the Rumble out of the blue. He debuts in Summer of 2010. Has a nice feud with Rey Mysterio. Then really does nothting of importance. Then, wins the Rumble all of a sudden.

Strike B) Opens Wrestlemania. Maybe it became a notion that the WH title became a joke during the next years, but at that time, the WH title was still considered equal to the WWE Championship. Which means that a WH title match, opening Wrestlemania was unreal. But it happened..

Strike C) His title win gets sacrificed for Edge and Christian. WWE gives Alberto that big push, then they never go the full way, due to Edge's sudden retirement. Now Edge has to win, even though he's retiring. That was acceptable. But Christian also beating Del Rio in order to win the WH Championship because of Edge only to lose it 2 days later to Randy Orton was not. Del Rio looked like a freaking joke and from a main eventer he instantly became a midcarder.

Strike D) Punk's summer. That guy's luck is unreal. He goes from Smackdown and a real life event (Edge's retirement) that cost him his main event title spot to RAW and another real life event that cost him his main event title spot (CM Punk).
Del Rio looked like a bitch at Money In The Bank. Then he wins the title at Summerslam, in a cash in, with a freaking interference as well and then LOSES TO JOHN CENA.

To put it simply. WWE used Del Rio's name for the mexican audience but they never intended to make him equal to their own stars. That's why Vince McMahon is an asshole. Del Rio lost to Edge, Christian, Cena and Punk in every match that mattered in his most important year. And I really don't want to break down his following years. Horrible treatment for Del Rio. Horrible. His stale gimmick was the least of the problems. Guys with worst gimmicks had gotten more over.

Del Rio for WWE was simply, a safe investment. WWE had Mexico through Del Rio, plus WWE knew that Del Rio wasn't going to last long because Del Rio had stated that he planned on retiring at 37 (back in 2011), so WWE decided to use Del Rio's name to put over their own stars and also hold the mexican demographic.

No real effort was ever put into Del Rio by the bookers. That's also why they took Ricardo away from him. That's also why Del Rio never really defeated any real main eventer during his time with the company. And the only reason Del Rio held all those titles was because WWE liked to present a mexican star as a champion. That's the real story.

Gotta give the guy credit though. He had one of the biggest contracts and nowhere near the level of work guys with his kind of contract have.
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