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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJzIm1oGp4c

click on the video URL link above, and see what you think of watching Michael Whiteacre's confrontation with Garrett Lubben, which took place on June 5, 2012, and can't believe that 2012 is almost so long ago, and when you skip straight to the confrontational conversation between Whiteacre and Garrett, Whiteacre probably seems to have raised a vaild point for debunking Pink Cross Foundation and their tax returns. Is Whiteacre in the right for shining a light on the truth about Pink Cross Foundation and Shelley Lubben?

This is what happens when you get caught in a Big Lie.

Last weekend, Michael Whiteacre led a flock of porn performers to a animal rights fundraising event -- Porn Stars for Puppies And Cats Too -- that was jointly sponsored by the LA Animal Rescue and the sponsors of the documentary "After Porn Ends". The protest was motivated because one of the featured guests just so happenee to be The Ministress of Ex-Porn, Shelley Lubben, whom had incited the protest by earlier claiming that porn performers who were turning against her after seeking her help in leaving the business were like "wild animals" biting their handlers. Well, Shelley's husband, Garrett Lubben, decided to attempt to confront Whiteacre once and for all...and this exchange was the result. This is only the first part of what transpired.

Thanks to Sam Phillips -- the voiceover behind the first two episodes of "The Devil and Shelley Lubben" for breaking out the camera, and to Michael for granting me permission to mirror the exchange here.
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I had to go and Google Pinkcross Foundation before I even knew what this thread was all about. It's an organization that was founded to help ex-porn stars transition out of the porn industry. For those that know nothing about it, it's been shut down and promoted as being a scam.

To the OP. Why on earth would you think this would be newsworthy. I didn't watch the video but as you say yourself it happened 5 years ago. You could have at least provided some background like I did.

To the point, like I said the foundation was considered a scam and was shut down in 2015. So I can't even believe there is a part 2 to this.
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I had to go and Google Pink Cross Foundation before I even knew what this thread was all about. It's an organization that was founded to help ex-porn stars transition out of the porn industry. For those that know nothing about it, it's been shut down and promoted as being a scam.

To the OP. Why on earth would you think this would be newsworthy. I didn't watch the video but as you say yourself it happened 5 years ago. You could have at least provided some background like I did.

To the point, like I said the foundation was considered a scam and was shut down in 2015. So I can't even believe there is a part 2 to this.
@Navi This video was about Michael Whiteacre interrogating Garrett Lubben about the Pink Cross Foundation's tax returns, and whether his then-wife of 21 years (Shelley Lubben) wants to end the entire porn industry forever. Samantha Phillips is his camerawoman sidekick, so she's on Whiteacre's side. But now Garrett has recently awakened to the ugly, ugly reality of his now ex-wife's true colors.

You got the year wrong. Shelley Lubben closed down her Pink Cross Foundation in January 2016 because she was caught having an affair with a ranch worker named Joseph "Joe" Valley. He is now her boyfriend, and she cheated on Garrett with him. Garrett caught her cheating on him for Valley, so Shelley cooked up some false domestic violence arrests to try and win him back on her side, knowing that females (especially psychotic females) get away with violent crimes.

Garrett got a restraining order against her, and he wanted to protect his two younger daughters from Shelley's abusive blackmailing ways. So Garrett gave most of his money and belongings to Shelley, so he and the daughters can start fresh somewhere else. Then Shelley and her Pink Cross Foundation associate alumni Jan Meza tried to steal daughter Teresa's jeep. Here's the actual events:

In Kern County Superior Court, Tuesday morning, Judge Stephen D. Schuett declined to make permanent a Temporary Restraining Order requested by ex-husband Garrett Lubben and their daughters to protect them from Shelley Lubben.

The judge wanted compelling evidence of the clear physical threats to the petitioners and cared very little for any activity that occurred before June 9 of this year. That's the date of the couple's mandatory mediation and settlement conference. The two appeared amicable, in that they waived their mutual declarations of financial disclosure, and had been able to come up with up a binding Settlement Agreement. It would appear the court officers mistook their eagerness to be out of each other's lives (particularly Garrett's understandable enthusiasm to be rid of her) for cordial amicability.

Because many of the (ongoing) events cited by Garrett took place before June 9, the evidence presented provided insufficient basis for the judge to grant a Permanent Restraining Order. Incidentally, here (for the first time anywhere) is the Lubbens' Divorce Settlement Agreement:

I've highlighted the section regarding their eldest daughter's (Teresa's) 2015 Jeep Wrangler.

According to Garrett, he"gave her everything up there [in Springville] in the divorce" for a good reason: so that the and his girls could "start over with minimal memories remaining and zero spousal support."

Notice the document contains the clause:
Each party agrees to execute or deliver any instrument, furnish any information, or perform any other act reasonably necessary to carry out the provisions of this agreement without undue delay or expense.
This is important because 1) Shelley has taken no apparent steps to turn the Jeep over to Garrett and/or her own daughter via the California DMV and the loan company. (Their daughter drives it exclusively, and Garrett makes all the payments); and 2) approximately one hour after court let out, Shelley came to Garrett and the kids' house to confiscate Teresa’s Jeep from their driveway!

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My guess is Shelley will show up with a domestic violence advocate from Tulare County and make a plea to confiscate her daughter’s jeep that happens to be in her name.
He sure called it. Knowing that Garrett had put down $20k + on the Jeep, Shelley Lubben was willing to fuck over her own daughter to sell it back and pocket the cash from its equity.

So, Shelley called for a police escort to remove the Jeep which is in her name -- but neglected to inform them that, per the divorce settlement, the Jeep is Garrett's property. That's our Shelley. Jan Villarubia, Shelley and their "shared daughter" Tiandra, who drove in from Las Vegas (yes, across state lines) to assist Shelley in her illegal plan. Shelley's 2015 Jeep Rubicon is parked behind them.

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"She had Jan Villarubia with her today who was eager to drive off with a $50,000 Jeep. [I'll bet... see here and here -- ed.] My girls were extremely scared and when I came home after being called, Shelley was standing on the sidewalk 2 doors down with 2 police cars and officers who read the divorce settlement and sent Shelley away. All new lows for her which we experienced at the Lubben Haus today."
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God is SOOOO good to me.... The judge just threw out the case. And here's the cool part, there was an empty broken chair there and it was the only one no one sat in and I was feeling nervous and the LORD said to me, "Don't worry Shelley I'm sitting right next to you." sniff sniff He is so good. Thank you for your prayers. They mean the WORLD to me. Maybe you can pray specifically for me to sell my ranch or that God would provide a way for me to have a good income since your prayers work so well!
LOL it always comes down to money for our Shelley, doesn't it? Always has and always will.
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The hearing today concluded with the judge insisting that if Garrett wanted to protect his minor child, then he would be well advised to use the child custody path, which does make a lot of sense in the long run, particularly in light of the blockbuster charges against Shelley that Garrett has already disclosed in writing under penalty of perjury.

This mess ain't over by a long shot.

UPDATE: I am informed that the day after Shelley failed to steal her daughter's Jeep, she called her daughter a "fucking bitch" at CarMax. Nice, huh?

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There's something that's come up in this country that didn't use to exist, which is envy, and it's a big issue. And it was understood back in the day and we are empowering, we are now dealing with the first wave of participation trophy, "my own fecal matter doesn't stink" empowered "I feel so fuckin good about myself" everybody's a winner there's no losers. We are dealing with the first wave of those fucking assholes, that's what we're dealing with now. 'coz this has been going on for about 25 years and we're just starting to get maybe 20 years, and those kids were 8 or 9 years old.

I call em the ass douches. No, I saw that on the news. Brian Williams called them the ass douches.

So what we have, haven't really broken this down but I'm gonna try now. We created a bunch of fuckin' self-entitled monsters, and this has become the pursuit of "My Life" where people are so far out of it and what they expect, and what they think realistic is, and the set of rules that pertain to them versus the other guys, 'coz that's what the bottom line is. "I want my Most Valuable Player trophy!" "Well, you're the slowest fattest guy on the team!" "Why should he get one and I don't get one?!?" "Because he busts his ass and runs a 4.40, that's why he gets one!" Well, this is bullshit and then everyone gets involved, and then everyone gets a participation trophy. And then everyone feels good about themselves, that's not based on anything!

You should feel fuckin good about yourself because of your accomplishments! Not because somebody yelled at you to feel good about yourself and you got a fucking fake piece of plastic that was sprayed gold and had your name and the plaque at the bottom of it. And when these folks become adults and enter the work force, they've done stories about this, how you can't treat 'em, you know, the boss can't yell "HEY, let's go, lets get back to work!" now "Whoa, whoa! You raised your voice to me, you better watch your tone buddy, my dad's a lawyer, he'll sue your ass or take this company!" Self entitled pricks who think the world owes them a living, and now we're getting the first wave of these douchebags and now they grew up and it's fine if you grow up in this little snow globe of a life where everything is awesome, and everyone gets a participation trophy, there's no losers, well when you get shaken up, everything's awesome.

But then you get out into the real world and you realize, "I'm a fuckin' loser." You're not doing that well, you're not making that much money, there's no more participation trophies, this is the fucking L.A. Auto Show! You don't get to sit around and go, 'hey here's my piece of shit I worked on everyone, well why aren't you guys buying it?' and then, instead of finding a fucking mirror and finding the reason why no one's buying your car? You just wanna run around and yell at everyone else who's selling cars, and now, you wanna take shit and throw it at the cars, 'coz you wanna fuck their cars up. 'coz that's what's going on! It's like, instead of looking in the mirror and go, 'why the fuck am I not doing better?' you just find some guys that got more shit than you and go, "HEY MAN! WHAT DO YOU NEED ALL THAT SHIT FOR?!? IT'S THE SAME VERSION OF 'HEY MAN, WHY DO YOU NEED AN MVP TROPHY FOR?!?' COZ I BUST MY ASS, THAT'S WHY! OR MAYBE I'M JUST GENETICALLY BETTER THAN YOU! Either way buddy, I got the trophy, so shut the fuck up and get back to work, or better yet, on the bench where you belong.

This is what's going on: they're feeling shame. They've been shamed by life, because THEY HAVEN'T BEEN PREPARED FOR LIFE! They've been taught they've had so much smoke blown up their fucking collective asses by the time you get out in the real world, and then realize, the real world doesn't give a fuck where you're from, or what your mommy said you were, or how pretty you are, or what you do. They don't give a fuck what you do, they don't give a fuck what anyone and all those lies that you're told to your parents about how special you are, and how no one was created like you, and all this bullshit advertisement with Nike, and all this, 'it's just one you and you take it all, and it's your world, all that Reebok shit' doesn't mean shit when you get to the real world, and you're just looked at as peon #27 who's put in an application, and guess what, 'I don't like your attitude, douche! Fuck douche! Ass douche! And get your fucking feet off my desk, and hit the bricks, I'm not hiring you!' and now, your plan is to come and throw a brick at my window. That's your plan. This is what's been going on.

It's this envy and shame, and there's gonna be a lot more of it, because it used to be, back in the day, father'd be walking down the son down the sidewalk, and you'd see a guy go buying a Rolls Royce, and the father would say 'There goes Mr. Jenkins. Look up to him. That guy works hard. That guy built a company, that guy built an empire, and now look at him. He's got his Rolls Royce and he's driving up the hill. But what do we do now?' And now it's like "ugh, look at him. Look at him! Does he need that car? Why does he need that car?!? I'm driving a fucking Chevette! Why does he get to drive that fucking car, you know, let's go up there and throw a rock at it!" That ain't gonna help you get out of the Chevette, assdouche! Get the fuck to work!

And by the way, parents, society! We are creating a group of self-entitled monsters. Knock it off! We started having these weird swings in raising kids, and they're not very good. I mean, I grew up in the 70s just free to be you and me. "Hey man if he doesn't wanna learn to read, you have to learn to read, yeah, just run wild, free-range do your own thing man. That whole hippie 'do your own thing' it never fucking panned out, and the super self-esteem building, and just all that bullshit where we have to knock down a Christmas celebration, call it a holiday celebration so we don't have to offend the one kid whose parents are litigious, or whatever. We fucked their society up royally, basically taking that one kid and empowered him. And we've gotta stop, 'coz that's what all this is.

It used to be that you looked, 'I'm not saying you took random rich guys and worshipped at their altar, but you took guys who built something and said there's a guy whose accomplished something. Not, 'WHY ISN'T HE PAYIN' HIS FAIR SHARE?!?' And I wonder when that ever fucking come about. That guy paid millions of dollars last year, you paid in shit, and you're pissed at him. Obviously it doesn't make sense, obviously it's not a rational thought. It's shame driven, and you wanna extrapolate this. This is essentially what the terrorists do with us! They see us over here in our hot tubs, driving our big cars around, having our parties, turning on our stretch limos with hot tubs, or chicks looking hot, fake boobies and bikinis, and all that. And they're like, 'fuck it, Allah's gonna take care of these guys.' and then Allah doesn't take care of shit, and then they come down and blow our buildings up. It's not "we think it's about religion or we think it's about our cultures", it's one culture can't live next to another culture that's thriving without getting pissed off, envious, resentful.

You then get shamed, and when you get shamed, there's two things you can do with shame:
-1) You can be shamed and go "I better get my shit together"
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-2) You can be shamed and go "I'm gonna tear that guy's shit down!"

And that's what we're at now! When you feel that shame, get your shit together, leave my shit alone! Thank you, that's what it is. It is as old as the Bible.
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20 something's have been unaware and self entitled for as long as I remember. I was pretty bad in my 20s yet I never received a participation trophy let alone much praise from my dad. But keep on buying in to your media selling you something that makes you feel better about yourself and helps them win your devotion.

So tell us about your personal experiences with this phenomenon OP. Tell us about your experiences in your workplace and personal relationships. Tell us about how you were raised and how you came to feel so adamant about this topic. I have open ears.
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20 something's have been unaware and self entitled for as long as I remember. I was pretty bad in my 20s yet I never received a participation trophy let alone much praise from my dad. But keep on buying in to your media selling you something that makes you feel better about yourself and helps them win your devotion.

So tell us about your personal experiences with this phenomenon OP. Tell us about your experiences in your workplace and personal relationships. Tell us about how you were raised and how you came to feel so adamant about this topic. I have open ears.
My personal experience is that never once did I want any participation trophies. I have stated the lesson speech from my own point of view, and I never grew up a self-entitled person, and no, i'm not using the media to state my facts for me, not all the time.

Okay, my personal experience with the recent phenomenon wave of self-entitled millennials growing up in today's world has to be when they really started emerging two years ago. Otherwise, I am not part of the fad, nor do I want to be a part of the fad due to me being critical about the whole trend that I (like many people) thought was going to last forever for the worst. Sorry about earlier for my recent string of posts that turned out bad, and irritated LBGetBack, Frank N' Steins_Gate, ShinChan, Rock Lesnar and Spidey. I have the courage to admit that I have no one to blame but myself for the recent string of nonsensical rant threads I've been doing, and while I know it's gonna be a long way towards the path to redemption, I probably think I'm better best served remaining friends with therockiswwf, Makaveli31, THTRobTaylor, hbkperfect23 and Fallout, and maybe you if you want to.

Anyway, I was never born with a silver spoon in my mouth like the Kardashian sisters, Hillary Clinton and Caitlyn Jenner. Those people were born into wealth from the get-go, and maybe Donald Trump was also born into wealth. Unlike the Kardashians, Hillary and Caitlyn, Trump had to work hard tirelessly just to get the money and the business buildings he has today. From my own eyes, I never saw Hillary work hard like a private citizen to get to where she is, so she gets a free pass for her faults while Trump gets flamed and vilified for simply being honest. As for me however, I consider myself an Average Joe except with the makings of a potential legend on WrestleZone assuming people enjoy my work that would last forever.

Looking into the lifetime of my attitude over the years, I was born a happy kid who used to be a cheerful energetic youngster playing outdoors all the time. I was once a Democrat Liberal who had no clue about politics nor the shady stuff that Hillary did. When Bill was the U.S. President from 1993 to 2000, TV was entertaining, awesome and not watered down because the FCC didn't have that much power at the time. Those were the years I look fondly upon. After the end of 2010, as I dropped my pencil off the desk, I crawled down to reach for it and POOF I had hit my own head, suffering a concussion. Pre-concussion, I used to run outdoors all the time and had a healthy body from 1994-2007 before delving upon addiction to junk food in 2007-2010 albeit in moderation. After 2010, I had increased my consumption to a little more than usual otherwise not excessive from 2010 to 2013, and I remained a nice person, even though I was starting to wind up becoming a jerk and a surly person by 2014. My jerky attitude reared its ugly head, and once I became a fully-fledged jerk, I started taking insane copious amounts of fries, burgers and sodas, so post-concussion, I changed my gameplay style from running and jumping to a more verbal-oriented person. Watching me try to exercise is like watching paint dry nowadays, just to save whatever little is left of my damaged brain.

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My personal experience is that never once did I want any participation trophies. I have stated the lesson speech from my own point of view, and I never grew up a self-entitled person, and no, i'm not using the media to state my facts for me, not all the time.

Okay, my personal experience with the recent phenomenon wave of self-entitled millennials growing up in today's world has to be when they really started emerging two years ago. Otherwise, I am not part of the fad, nor do I want to be a part of the fad due to me being critical about the whole trend that I (like many people) thought was going to last forever for the worst. Sorry about earlier for my recent string of posts that turned out bad, and irritated LBGetBack, Frank N' Steins_Gate, ShinChan, Rock Lesnar and Spidey. I have the courage to admit that I have no one to blame but myself for the recent string of nonsensical rant threads I've been doing, and while I know it's gonna be a long way towards the path to redemption, I probably think I'm better best served remaining friends with therockiswwf, Makaveli31, THTRobTaylor, hbkperfect23 and Fallout, and maybe you if you want to.

Anyway, I was never born with a silver spoon in my mouth like the Kardashian sisters, Hillary Clinton and Caitlyn Jenner. Those people were born into wealth from the get-go, and maybe Donald Trump was also born into wealth. Unlike the Kardashians, Hillary and Caitlyn, Trump had to work hard tirelessly just to get the money and the business buildings he has today. From my own eyes, I never saw Hillary work hard like a private citizen to get to where she is, so she gets a free pass for her faults while Trump gets flamed and vilified for simply being honest. As for me however, I consider myself an Average Joe except with the makings of a potential legend on WrestleZone assuming people enjoy my work that would last forever.

Looking into the lifetime of my attitude over the years, I was born a happy kid who used to be a cheerful energetic youngster playing outdoors all the time. I was once a Democrat Liberal who had no clue about politics nor the shady stuff that Hillary did. When Bill was the U.S. President from 1993 to 2000, TV was entertaining, awesome and not watered down because the FCC didn't have that much power at the time. Those were the years I look fondly upon. After the end of 2010, as I dropped my pencil off the desk, I crawled down to reach for it and POOF I had hit my own head, suffering a concussion. Pre-concussion, I used to run outdoors all the time and had a healthy body from 1994-2007 before delving upon addiction to junk food in 2007-2010 albeit in moderation. After 2010, I had increased my consumption to a little more than usual otherwise not excessive from 2010 to 2013, and I remained a nice person, even though I was starting to wind up becoming a jerk and a surly person by 2014. My jerky attitude reared its ugly head, and once I became a fully-fledged jerk, I started taking insane copious amounts of fries, burgers and sodas, so post-concussion, I changed my gameplay style from running and jumping to a more verbal-oriented person. Watching me try to exercise is like watching paint dry nowadays, just to save whatever little is left of my damaged brain.
I am sorry for your accident. No one deserves to live life disadvantaged. But what it sounds like you're saying is that your disability has made it difficult for you to get out and experience life and get to know people face to face. I would ask that you consider that your lack of life experience and wisdom make you strongly consider your beliefs before you criticize a whole generation of young people.
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I have decided to retract my earlier belief that a whole generation of young people are entitled. As I now have made my declaration known that half of the whole generation never had a chance to live an enjoyable life, even if their life enjoyment isn't exactly how my life enjoyment was set up. I feel sorry for the younger generation because of the fact that they never got to experience actual television, video gaming and the music industry before they all got watered down by the FCC. They would have loved the 1990s, and I would be more than happy to build a time machine to take them back to the late 1990s when HBO was the best thing on TV.

The regret I now have for not joining and signing up with WrestleZone much earlier when I still had a working brain of sound mind years ago, has to be huge. As for the OP thread above, I think that's Adam Carolla's old rant from way back in 2011, and he was never afraid of admitting that he disliked how things have changed since then for everyone. In case you don't know him, Adam Carolla is a legendary comedian and a podcasting superstar so he has to be one of the rarest forms of comedians to stick around in a world where all the radio personalities are in and out every three years, and most people seem replaceable nowadays.

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I have decided to retract my earlier belief that a whole generation of young people are entitled. As I now have made my declaration known that half of the whole generation never had a chance to live an enjoyable life, even if their life enjoyment isn't exactly how my life enjoyment was set up. I feel sorry for the younger generation because of the fact that they never got to experience actual television, video gaming and the music industry before they all got watered down by the FCC. They would have loved the 1990s, and I would be more than happy to build a time machine to take them back to the late 1990s when HBO was the best thing on TV.

The regret I now have for not joining and signing up with WrestleZone much earlier when I still had a working brain of sound mind years ago, has to be huge.

Whoa!

How is HBO not the best thing on TV today? Game of Thrones, Curb, Leftovers, that John Toturro show that everyone raved about, the first season of that True Detective? What was so much better about HBO in the late 90's? I'm struggling to remember what they were doing that was so amazing back then.

I won't mention John Oliver's brilliance as that would be wasting my breath with you. But seriously, have you even tried to watch HBO?

This is actually a topic worth discussing.
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I guess you're right about the fact that I haven't even watched HBO. I have only heard that HBO was a bigger thing in the late 90s. At least I still respect the people who rave about how they simply enjoyed the John Toturro show, Curb, Leftovers, Season 1 of True Detective and Game of Thrones.

And why I say what's much better about HBO in the late 90s? It's because in the late 90's and into the early years of the new millennium, it seemed like all forms of entertainment were pushing the boundaries to see what they could get away with showing without the censors crying foul. HBO were really brazen with this. Almost every show was geared towards a more adult audience because they all had copious amounts of profanity and nudity. And over in Canada, there were two stations (Showcase and Bravo) that would basically show softcore porn in the late night time slots. It was great. Nowadays, those who once enjoyed the late 1990s/early 2000s HBO have had the feeling that TV is going backwards. Those two channels I just mentioned have totally lamed out big time. All they show now for late nights are either re-runs of TV shows or the same five movies over and over, which can be boring if unable to stomach the repeats all the time.

And sadly, the WWE has followed suit with this. Ever since they bought out WCW in 2001 they've gradually toned down their product to where it has become what it is now. Which is totally bland. You'd think that they would push the boundaries in regards of what they show on their programs; its not like they're gonna get thrown off the air any time soon. But instead, they have seen to gone for the safest, easiest route to putting on a show, which is a really lazy way of doing things in my opinion. They really need to start watching some of the old footage from the Attitude era, the classic mid 80's NWA, or even the angles conjured up in Jerry Lawler's old stomping grounds, the Memphis territory. Those were some insanely over the top angles they were coming up back then. So very ahead of their time.

Maybe I'm just too much of a self-admitted picky person to even truly know my own personal tastes for any kind of anything.

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