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Old 01-27-2017, 10:30 PM
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Default Could Jim Niedhart have "made it" as a solo wrestler?

The guy spent the prime of his career in a tag team with one of the greatest of all time. And then when they went their separate ways and Bret got the big push..I remember the Anvil on commentary for awhile. Then he teamed with Owen. Then he was gone for a couple years. Then he came back to basically manage Owen. Then gone. Then came back in '97 to be a part of the Hart Foundation stable. He was rarely around to wrestle consistently for more than a couple months at a time.

If Anvil had a consistent singles push from 1991 on, could he have made it? I say yes. Unlike other "second banana" tag team guys, the Anvil had charisma. He could talk a bit and had a distinctive character. Nothing spectacular in the ring, but solid. To me, he would've done well if pushed as a "legit tough guy" who went out and put on hard hitting, no frills matches, and he could talk a bit too. He put on a solid match with Randy Savage after WM5 on Saturday Nights Main Event that the fans were super into. I think he could've done well. Like a Hacksaw Jim Dugan level guy.
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Old 01-27-2017, 11:52 PM
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I think WWF/WWE dropped the ball with Jim The Anvil Neidhart. Guy was a big power wrestler who had classic (yelling) promos. Nothing a refit of his ring attire, entrance music and special move couldn't fix. He would've made a decent mid card power heel.
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Old 01-28-2017, 12:31 AM
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I think WWF/WWE dropped the ball with Jim The Anvil Neidhart. Guy was a big power wrestler who had classic (yelling) promos. Nothing a refit of his ring attire, entrance music and special move couldn't fix. He would've made a decent mid card power heel.
Was it WWF or Jim....or both? He had a lot of drug problems, right?

Agreed though, could've made a decent mid card power heel.....and a decent mid card power face.

And yeah, some of Jim's yelling promos were absolutely hilarious and awesome.

Also, the way WWF sent Jim out of the company.....with him trying to join DX, and then having Shawn and HHH both beat the hell out of him. Nah. That was messed up. Jim no sold the hell out of that beat down though, which was well deserved. You don't do him like that because of what happened with Bret.
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Old 01-28-2017, 01:09 AM
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I think anyone could have a decent solo run if booked properly. Jim could easily have had what Strowman is having now...a power heel that runs through smaller guys and doesn't say much.

Do I think he ever could've been champion material? Not really. I think in many ways Jim was just good enough. To be a top level solo performer you need to excel in any one of these 3 categories, at least, or in all categories, at best. Those being 1.)promos 2.)in-ring ability 3.)charisma.

I think Jim had sprinkles of all 3, but not enough in any one area to really justify strapping the rocket on his back.
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Old 01-28-2017, 02:00 AM
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I think anyone could have a decent solo run if booked properly. Jim could easily have had what Strowman is having now...a power heel that runs through smaller guys and doesn't say much.

Do I think he ever could've been champion material? Not really. I think in many ways Jim was just good enough. To be a top level solo performer you need to excel in any one of these 3 categories, at least, or in all categories, at best. Those being 1.)promos 2.)in-ring ability 3.)charisma.

I think Jim had sprinkles of all 3, but not enough in any one area to really justify strapping the rocket on his back.
If they did it, I would have loved to have seen Neidhart feud with Bret Hart. Imagine the build-up and matches.
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Even if I dislike Bret's hypocrisies, I still think Jim Neidhart was always gonna end up becoming what he always was going to be, aka midcard/undercard jobber without significant booking direction, since Bret Hart was the biggest star between him, Anvil, Bulldog, Owen and Pillman.

If The Hart Foundation split like they actually did after 1990-91, Neidhart was going to be reduced to jobbing since although he was good at wrestling, cutting promos and charisma, he didn't excel in any one of those three categories. The closest Neidhart got to a quasi-main event push was his return to the WWF in 1994 when he turned heel again and was now an ally of Owen Hart, the 1994 King of the Ring winner.

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Old 01-28-2017, 03:51 AM
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Would've made a good upper card powerman with runs with midcard and TV titles and an occasional main event run with maybe a transitional world title run.
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Would've made a good upper card powerman with runs with midcard and TV titles and an occasional main event run with maybe a transitional world title run.
@jpickens I agree with you, if only everything fell in place perfectly for Jim Neidhart with proper booking in his favor. Some say Vince chose the wrong Hart to be the face of the WWF from '92-'95, but then again, Vince was fighting the federal government regarding the steroids distributed to Golden Era superstars like Hogan, Savage, Warrior, Bulldog and Hawk. Rick Martel may have had the overmuscled physique by 1991-92, but I don't think he was ever linked at all to the steroid scandal. In fact, he might have taken a hiatus like Hogan, Savage, Bulldog and Hawk; but Martel might have been the only one who voluntarily took time off because he had a real estate career that he needed to start focusing on.
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I guess I'm in the minority and say no.

Neidhart was good as the power man in a tag-team environment but he was limited in the ring with his ability and I don't think Neidhart could have gotten over, much like Animal, D-Von Dudley etc. he was a tag-team specialist and the guy spent his time there for that reason, as a singles competitor, he would have been the veteran to put guys over, almost a jobber.
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The WWF used him as a singles wrestler under his name AND under the WHO name.
Neidhart didn't have the workrate or charisma that other similarly sized men did in that day.
He reached his full potential. He was perfect as a tag team wrestler.
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