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Old 01-12-2017, 08:31 AM
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Main site is reporting that apparently Undertaker vs Cena has been scraped. So probably we will be looking at Cena 16th title win vs Aj Styles and Undertaker vs Reigns. Because cant really see Undertaker vs Strowman though they teased it on RAW with Strowman watching Taker.
I've heard that too on other sites, apparently Vince is changing his mind as much as you'd change a newborn's diapers. This show will either blow it out of the water, or sink faster than the Titanic.

If Cena doesn't go against Taker (which should be his last Mania) then who gets them. Styles would have to slow down a lot for Taker, and we've seen him against Cena already. Would love to see Samoa Joe debut and take on Cena, but can only see that happening in an non title match. Everything right now is speculation until after the Rumble. Even then I'm not so sure the card will be set.
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Yeah with Taker vs. Cena now off the books I can't see Vince pairing Taker with anyone but Roman Reigns. Probably going to have a controversial ending to Styles vs. Cena match that ends up as a rematch at Mania. Taker to win Rumble and challenge Reigns, if this is the plan this is how I would book Mania.

Opening Match
1) Neville retains Cruiserweight Title in a ladder match
2) Nikki Bella defeats Natalyia in a grudge match
3) Braun Stroman wins Andre Battle Royal, Zayn is last one to get thrown out
4) Enzo/Cass capture tag gold in 4 way matchup with Sheamus/Cesaro, New Day, & The Club
5) Alexa Bliss retains vs. Becky Lynch
6) Shaq defeats the Big Show
7) The Wyatt Family defeat American Alpha for Smackdown tag team gold
* Not time to have the Orton vs. Wyatt feud again yet
8) Ambrose retains I-C Title vs. Miz
9) Brock Lesnar defeats Goldberg in a cage match
10) Kevin Owens defeats Jericho for the US Title
11) Rollins defeats HHH
12) Bailey wins the fatal 4 way with (Charlotte, Nia Jax, and Banks)
13) John Cena defeats AJ Styles to get his record breaking Title win
14) Roman Reigns retains the Universal Title against the Undertaker after getting interference from Rollins & Ambrose. Mania goes off the air with the Shield standing tall!

Post Mania Raw
Smackdown and Raw complete a trade that sends these wrestlers to the other brand
Ambrose, Styles, B. Lynch, & American Alpha head to Raw
Zayn, Balor, Owens, Banks, & New Day head to Smackdown

Wildcards
Kurt Angle joins Raw
Samoa Joe joins Smackdown

New Feuds Raw
Angle/American Alpha vs. The Shield
The Club vs. The Shield

Smackdown loses Ambrose & Styles but now has a main event scene with some young blood (Zayn, Balor, Joe, Owens, Cass, Corbin, & New Day) while still having Wyatt Family as well with Orton.

US Title goes to Smackdown with Owens, I-C Title goes to Raw with Ambrose where they should be...
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I'm 100% convinced that the only reason why we aren't getting Undertaker/Cena now is because Vince doesn't want Smackdown to have the top WrestleMania feud.

But this throws a lot of things out of whack. The main site is reporting that The Undertaker WON'T be challenging for either of the World Championships which leads me to believe it's not gonna be Roman considering I feel it's a given he's winning at the Rumble and heading into Mania as the Universal Champion... that only leaves Strowman as Undertaker's opponent, which I guess I'm fine with, but that leads me to a HUGE worry.

There's another report on the site claiming that Samoa Joe is gonna be called up at the Rumble and will be receiving a monster push heading into WrestleMania. You HAVE TO think they're gonna put him on Smackdown, they NEED him, plus the chances for AJ/Joe or Cena/Joe at Mania, both would be incredible... but what if they put him on RAW and have him challenge Reigns for the Universal Championship. It's very plausible, you have Rollins booked, you now have Strowman booked who was a long rumored opponent for Reigns, you have Jericho and Owens booked against each other... who would there be for him to face? A returning Finn Balor? That's really the only option. If they do call up Joe and put him on RAW, 4 of the top 5 Mania matches would be RAW matches... (it might already be heading there depending on what they do with AJ and Cena) SURELY they can't do that, right?

It also throws thing for a loop on the Smackdown side, I don't see any way they do AJ/Cena for the title at WrestleMania. Dirty finish at the Rumble or not, they have an entire other PPV in February before WrestleMania. You would assume Joe would get put on Smackdown and get either AJ/Cena, most likely the latter, and the other would go on to face...??? (Hopefully for the title... maybe?) It really doesn't leave Smackdown in a good spot at all.

AND it turns the Rumble upside down. If they go ahead with Undertaker/Strowman, those were my only two options to win the Rumble... with them out, I really don't know. Finn?? Joe???

It's been a while since the Rumble and WrestleMania were this hard to predict.

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Sorry for the double post but it won't let me edit.

Just read the report again and it said that Undertaker's opponent won't be Strowman (at least as of right now), I really don't know how I missed that the first time.

But now I'm really lost, I have no clue what the hell is going on. I've never been this intrigued heading into WrestleMania season... maybe a better word would be worried.
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The Wrestling Observer is reporting that WWE's Vince McMahon has nixed the idea for a John Cena vs. The Undertaker match up at WrestleMania this year. In my opinion, it's a bad decision. There's no one on paper better to challenge The Deadman on the biggest stage it also happens to be the biggest one they could pull off. Seeds have already been planted back in 2016, chants have been sang and it's getting quite obvious for the entire audience that John Cena and Undertaker have never locked horns since Cena's rise to the main event scene and to the #1 spot in the company. It's something that evidently a lot of people want to see and quite frankly, it's something we should see before it's too late.

To make matters worse, the rumor going around is that either Roman Reigns or Braun Strowman will be Undertaker's opponent. Nothing against either of the guys, but there's just nothing there. The sheer image of a confrontation between any of them and The Undertaker doesn't really get a reaction out of me. It's a cliche storyline and while Reigns may be more than ready for the big spot, he isn't the favorite that they would want them to be. Unless they somehow turn him heel, I don't see anything interesting in having him beat or be beat by The Undertaker at WrestleMania. Braun Strowman is just too green and I'll already have to endure a Lesnar vs. Goldberg classic.

John Cena vs. The Undertaker writes itself. If I remember correctly, in Cena's debut, both of them had a backstage segment so, how cool would it be, if it was that same guy who retired The Icon? It's such a cool story and if anyone can carry The Undertaker to a well round up match it's John Cena. It's a Legend vs. Legend. It's a first time ever since Cena became the star that he is.

It's a wasted opportunity, that's all that I am saying. Thoughts!
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The Wrestling Observer is reporting that WWE's Vince McMahon has nixed the idea for a John Cena vs. The Undertaker match up at WrestleMania this year. In my opinion, it's a bad decision. There's no one on paper better to challenge The Deadman on the biggest stage it also happens to be the biggest one they could pull off. Seeds have already been planted back in 2016, chants have been sang and it's getting quite obvious for the entire audience that John Cena and Undertaker have never locked horns since Cena's rise to the main event scene and to the #1 spot in the company. It's something that evidently a lot of people want to see and quite frankly, it's something we should see before it's too late.

To make matters worse, the rumor going around is that either Roman Reigns or Braun Strowman will be Undertaker's opponent. Nothing against either of the guys, but there's just nothing there. The sheer image of a confrontation between any of them and The Undertaker doesn't really get a reaction out of me. It's a cliche storyline and while Reigns may be more than ready for the big spot, he isn't the favorite that they would want them to be. Unless they somehow turn him heel, I don't see anything interesting in having him beat or be beat by The Undertaker at WrestleMania. Braun Strowman is just too green and I'll already have to endure a Lesnar vs. Goldberg classic.

John Cena vs. The Undertaker writes itself. If I remember correctly, in Cena's debut, both of them had a backstage segment so, how cool would it be, if it was that same guy who retired The Icon? It's such a cool story and if anyone can carry The Undertaker to a well round up match it's John Cena. It's a Legend vs. Legend. It's a first time ever since Cena became the star that he is.

It's a wasted opportunity, that's all that I am saying. Thoughts!
You're only hearing of this now? It's been all over the net all week. Latest reports state that Taker vs. Braun Strowman is not on the table, but there might be some sort of confrontation with them during the Royal Rumble. Latest reports state that Taker will be wrestling a star from Raw and that he won't be wrestling for a championship. If this turns out to be true, then I'm sort of a little relieved because there had been talk of Cena vs. Taker being for the WWE Championship and I don't really wanna see them go at it for the strap as they're really two guys in the company who're above championships. If Roman Reigns becomes Universal Champion and, again if all this turns out to be legit, then he won't be Taker's opponent either.

With that being said, it's impossible to predict Vince's state of mind during WrestleMania season. It can be difficult at any given time as he's known to change his mind often, but nothing compares to the chaos of Vince planning WrestleMania. The stories of him changing his mind so often as to drive creative and pretty much the whole damn roster crazy are the stuff of legend. So IF all this turns out to be exactly as Meltzer is reporting, then I do think there'll be a chance Taker will face Roman Reigns because earlier reports stated that Vince felt Taker vs. Reigns is a match that's more about "the future" as Reigns is someone who'll be one of the major stars in WWE for the next decade.

Is Taker vs. Reigns something of a waste? If you're someone that doesn't like Roman Reigns, then it absolutely is. Some fans don't like Reigns and won't ever embrace him for different reasons; some are genuinely resentful that he was given such a monster push before he was ready, some are resentful that he's being pushed at all as they feel there are much better talents on the roster, some just don't like him because Vince does like him, etc. But the fact of the matter is that unless Vince has a massive change of heart or steps down, Roman Reigns is all but guaranteed to be one of the company's top 3 to 5 guys for the foreseeable future. If it does turn out to be Taker vs. Reigns and Reigns goes over, the fans simply aren't going to embrace Reigns babyface manner if that's what Vince hopes. He'd be better off just turning Reigns full blown heel as that's the response he's gonna get during the match win or lose.

In some ways, I'd rather it be Taker vs. Reigns if a title isn't at stake because I think Styles and Owens have both earned the right to go into WrestleMania with their titles. If Cena's not wrestling Taker, then I'd say he'll probably wind up winning his 16th World Championship from AJ Styles at WrestleMania and if Roman Reigns doesn't defeat Kevin Owens for the Universal Championship or regain the United States Championship from Chris Jericho, then he has the strongest shot of going against Taker on the big stage.
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I feel that the WWE is trying to make sure that if this is indeed Taker's last match it needs to be epic. This is why I would swerve my early post and maybe do this...

Undertaker vs. Brock Lesnar
Roman Reigns vs. Goldberg (Universal Title)
Styles vs. Cena

* Have Taker defeat the 1 opponent that he lost to at Mania in his last Mania. Best way to close the chapter on the Dead-Man's career for sure.

Also I would modify my post Mania roster switches.

Uso's go to Raw and join heel faction with Reigns & Samoa Joe.
New Day still goes to Smackdown
Styles to Raw to rejoin The Club
Rollins to Smackdown (DX type angle with Ambrose)
Angle to Smackdown to pair with American Alpha
Banks and Lynch switch brands (Banks & Charlotte are the top ladies so why not let them carry each brand).
Zayn also to Smackdown as he is lost on Raw.
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2 other side notes.

Stroman needs a voice (Paul Heyman) maybe???

Baron Corbin and Bo Dallas should join Wyatt Family after Orton breaks away. They are the premiere heel faction on Smackdown and need to stay strong after Orton bails.
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Is Taker vs. Reigns something of a waste? If you're someone that doesn't like Roman Reigns, then it absolutely is. Some fans don't like Reigns and won't ever embrace him for different reasons; some are genuinely resentful that he was given such a monster push before he was ready, some are resentful that he's being pushed at all as they feel there are much better talents on the roster, some just don't like him because Vince does like him, etc. But the fact of the matter is that unless Vince has a massive change of heart or steps down, Roman Reigns is all but guaranteed to be one of the company's top 3 to 5 guys for the foreseeable future. If it does turn out to be Taker vs. Reigns and Reigns goes over, the fans simply aren't going to embrace Reigns babyface manner if that's what Vince hopes. He'd be better off just turning Reigns full blown heel as that's the response he's gonna get during the match win or lose.
I was wondering about that and thought it would be cool way to drove Roman over the edge when he loses championship match at Rumble, have him destroy everything in his way, enroll Rumble and just takes Taker down. Massive heat on Reigns in his third Rumble in a row to get massive heat and it sets up Taker- Reigns perfectly. Sadly with them refusing to turn him heel cant see that. And to the words of one of forum members, Taker could chockeslam a baby and people would still cheer for him. So it would probably be about title.
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My Mania Card:

Cena vs Taker - Career vs Title. This is a no lose for Wrestlemania and is the biggest match they could put on. I think it legitimizes the whole card as being something truly important and is exactly how the Undertakers career should come to an end. I think win, but either way it works.

Owens Vs. Balor - Universal Title. This feels like a match that actually has legs. A man desperate to keep the title vs the man who never lost it. Legitimacy is on the line with two fantastic wrestlers. Should be brilliant and make the UniTitle look super legit.

Enzo & Cass (w/ Shawn Michaels) vs American Alpha (w/ Kurt Angle) - Interbrand match. Neither of these tag titles has any legitimacy and neither has a logical challenger. I would have Cesaro and Sheamus lose to Enzo and Cass at an upcoming PPV (alternatively the Club if you need a heel/face dynamic. But interbrand I don't think you need that). Having them fight the other champions might help build some legitimacy.

Chris Jericho vs Roman Reigns - US Title Match. After losing his US title Reigns wants his own back. After failing at the Rumble he sets his sights on regaining his US championship from Chris Jericho and with Owns distracted by his own title defense Jericho is vulnerable. Use this to set the seeds of a split when both men lose their belts and blame each other for being selfish. Sets the scene for Balor to move on to other feuds after Owens rematch and allows for the breakdown of Owens Jericho for their inevitable feud.

Dean Ambrose vs Baron Corbin vs Shelton Benjamin vs etc. etc. etc. - Intercontinental Title Match - Use this for the guys on the card with nothing else to do for mania. Include your share of high spots and it should be fun.

Shaq vs Big Show - Already set, nothing I can do about that.

Neville vs Whoever the Cruiserweight champion is - Cruiserweight title. Neville needs to be a badass dominant Cruiserweight champion. Give legitimacy to the brand. Have him prove he is the king of the cruiserweights and have the damn thing mean something.

Miz vs Daniel Bryan - If he is good to go, bring it on. This feud has been building for freaking years. If they can pull it off safely, go for it.

Charlotte vs. Bayley - Womens Title - Bayley goes over after being screwed half a dozen times between now and mania.

Alexa Bliss vs Mickie James - Womens Title - It literally doesn't matter.

Shinsuke vs Roode - NXT Title - Showcase NXTs chops, have Shinsuke drop the strap and have him called to the main roster the very next night. As part of the Smackdown WWE title Championship tournament they will no doubt call when the Undertaker wins and vacates.

This is how I want mania to be. As much as I DON'T want AJ to lose the strap, please don't think that. But Cena, Taker is HUGE.
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