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Old 11-10-2016, 08:16 PM
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Throughout the last 20 years or so there have been countless wrestlers that have been like Goldberg as far as their character and style of wrestling, basically just a no nonsense guy that has no mic skills, isn't a great wrestler but just goes out there and wins a bunch of squash matches like Goldberg did. He had no gimmick, no mic time and his average match was like 2 minutes yet he was without a doubt the hottest thing going in the WCW in 98. He was insanely over, yeah he had some canned "Goldberg" chants before his entrances but there's no denying the pops that he drew. When he beat Hogan for the title in July of 98 that may have been one of the biggest pops I have ever heard, that place went ballistic.

So my question is why or how did he get like that? Yeah WCW pushed him big time but he was getting huge pops and was over big time before WCW even started making a big deal about the streak or talking about him alot. There have been many instances where a guy goes on an undefeated streak and looks dominant like Goldberg did but they rarely ever get over and never to the extent of Goldberg. What made him different from those guys? I was a huge fan of his myself and I never usually like guys like that and I don't have an answer why.
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Old 11-10-2016, 08:39 PM
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I can sum it up in two moves, The Spear and Jackhammer. I remember the first time I saw Goldberg break a guy in half with his very real looking spear, then his Jackhammer was a great looking overkill move. There was nobody around with his intensity, it started at a knock on his locker room door, he came out looking focussed and determined (might even hit a commercial break before he makes it to the ramp). He breathes in the firework smoke and exhales it and yells, snarls and punches the air as fireworks pop behind him . He was dominating, very powerful (Jackhammer to guys nearly twice his weight, Big Show as well) and looked like nobody could ever defeat him. He was the only wrestler around who had that kind of intensity and add that to his two big moves and that's what made him special.
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Old 11-10-2016, 08:45 PM
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I agree with Jeff and will add that his music was phenomenal. It totally set the stage for him to be a dominant superhero along with his pyro.

Unfortunately it grew kind of stale and it appears he was very limited in what else he could do or offer.
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Old 11-10-2016, 08:53 PM
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A one word answer: Intensity.

I haven't seen any wrestler as intense as him. Not even close. He was supposed to be a dominant badass and he did full justice with his gimmick.

I don't remember anyone else doing Jackhammer but the spear has been done by bunch of people like Edge, Rhyno, Lashley and Roman Reigns. Still, noone's spear is better. The move is same but the intensity enhances it's credibility.

Does someone remember him backflipping and then spearing his opponent? I don't think that it's normal for a big guy like Goldberg to backflip.

These all things combine to make GOLDBERG!

As of now, Samoa Joe is the another guy whose intenisty is great to watch.
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I wish this were a spam thread so I could just say... it, and leave it that.

But that's basically what it comes down to. A presence that could not be matched, intensity and explosiveness that could make your eyes pop out of your head, and also, he just had a no bullshit, real feeling to him. When you saw a Goldberg match, you could almost forget you were watching a wrestling show for 5 minutes and believe somebody was going to legitimately get their ass kicked. He may not have been a great technician or speaker, but he was absolutely overflowing with the other intangibles.

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the presence of The Undertaker + the intensity of Stone Cold + the explosiveness of Brock Lesnar = Goldberg.
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There was no one like Goldberg because of his roided presence, something which the current generation doesn't have. It was his whole gimmick that made him special, walking out from his locker room with security, ready to kill intensity pre-fight, no sell, destroy.

The crowd loved it, no one got an in ring bigger pop in wrestling than Goldberg, especially when he hit the spear. Then he came to the WWE in 2003 and he was just another guy, the WWE fans sucked the life out of him, he needed his WCW fans.
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To add on what many of you have said already (the music, intensity, spear, jackhammer, physique, etc.), three things about Goldberg always stood out to me:
#1 - His eyes. When he said something, he would look right into the camera, you took one look at his eyes, and you believed what he was saying.
#2 - His voice. Again, when he delivered a promo, there was always something about his voice that came off as badass and "real".
#3 - His moveset. I always enjoyed how he would throw in a random power move in his matches. The ones that come to mind are the gorilla press into a powerslam, the rolling takedown into a submission leg lock, and the judo throw. He probably could still qualify for "5 moves of doom", but I liked how he mixed things up.
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There are a lot of factors, some of which have been mentioned. One that can't be overstated, in my opinion, is that he just happened to be in the right place at the right time with the right sort of look and just enough ability to make it all work. So yeah, in a lot of ways, a lot of it is due to just good ol' fashioned luck just like it is with any wrestler.

The music & pyro both worked to help create an atmosphere and Goldberg himself had a great look and believable intensity. His intensity wasn't really "over the top" in my eyes, he was just intense in a way that seems pretty common to meathead athletes. Goldberg looked like and came across like the sort of guy you sometimes see in the gym who psychs himself up for a few minutes before doing a set on the bench press and grunts like an ape in heat with each rep. It's limited and can be damned irritating, but it can be sort of entertaining if it's brief enough.

He had the look and he had the intensity, but the simple truth of the matter is that Goldberg was green as can be and would almost certainly never be great inside the ring. He had enough basic knowhow and intensity to give the illusion of someone who was better than he actually was. Put that together with the look, the music, the pyro, a couple of really nice looking but basic power moves and couple it with consistent booking and that was essentially Goldberg. He wasn't charismatic, he wasn't "entertaining", he wasn't personality driven and, truth be told, you saw how limited he was if and when he worked longer matches. But he was different enough, the hype was there, the look was there and the intensity was there.
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I was just getting into pro wrestling at the time--I was a substitute teacher in an elementary school, and when the kids called me Kane after no-selling a second grader trying to fight me while I told them what page in the math book to turn to, I just wanted to make sure that Kane wasn't something embarrassing to be (at least to second grade boys) like a gay comedy character or something.

So this could be totally wrong, but my guess is that Goldberg was the only new guy in sight not regularly squashed by the NWO or left to fart around in midcard purgatory. Much like Batista in 2004--it's not that the big guy was so special, it's that the fans were so hungry for a new hero to face down the same old big bad guy.
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Nothing. Goldberg was a generic big guy with two moves who was pushed as unbeatable. Him getting over was a foregone conclusion. As soon as he lost, nobody cared about him anymore. That's a sign of a gimmick being over, not a wrestler. Once he lost, he was never the same again.
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