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Old 10-26-2016, 08:59 PM
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2016 has been an interesting year. We're catching Pokemon, fleeing from killer clowns, and a Reality TV Star is running for president. If nobody caught the news yet, for the first time ever we are getting to see women compete inside Hell In A Cell, considered to be the most brutal stipulation in WWE history. For those living under a rock, it is supposed to be the Main Event of the pay per view. There's a lot of hype surrounding it, and rightfully so.

But lets take it a little further. Several women have competed in The Royal Rumble. With this feminine empowering movement running rampant in the WWE, is it possible that we will get to see a woman not only enter the Rumble, but win it as well? Can someone like Bayley survive 29 other superstars and go on to WrestleMania? How would the modern day viewer feel about the Women's Championship being the headliner of what is supposed to be the biggest event of the year? Are we ready for that twist?

Personally I see nothing wrong with it. Lately I've been just as captivated by what the girls put on just as much (if not more) than what the guys are running with. I don't think it would have been possible to see Charlotte vs. Sasha Banks headline any pay per view like a month ago, but here we are. Many would argue that it's outside the realm of realism, and I'd retort how Rey Mysterio vs. Any Seven Foot Tall Behemoth is too but that didn't stop WWE from capitalizing on it. We live in a unique time where our greatest fictional heroes are women and we are close to seeing our first female president as well. A woman winning the Royal Rumble doesn't seem impractical to me, and I wouldn't mind seeing it happen soon.

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The steps that the WWE have been taking in the last few months, especially with Charlotte and Sasha, have been solid. Some may argue that they are pushing too hard too fast, but the progress is there and I like that. Both Raw and Smackdown are having women's division feuds that aren't focused on the title. Sure, Bayley and Dana has been a snore, but at least the women are being treated as competitors and not just eye candy. It is a massive step up compared to just a few months back. To that effect, I think it would be pretty nifty to see the ladies get their shot at headlining Wrestlemania.

I just don't think having a lady win the Rumble is the way to do it. I say that because in my opinion, it would feel forced. Yeah, wrestling is filled with underdog stories, but WWE would beat it into the ground much the same way they did when Rey won the Rumble as the ultimate underdog.

If you can get a feud that is organically over, much like Charlotte and Sasha has been at its high points, or Sasha and Bayley were in NXT, between two women who are legit draws, then go for it. It may be a while longer before women get to see their names on the marques, but I think we are moving that direction.

Maybe one day we will see inter gender matches again in WWE, and the women will be able to compete on a level playing field with the men, but for now I think they are making steady steps in the right direction. So for now keep them separate but equal......wait.
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I'd have trouble with 100 pound Bayley throwing Braun Stroman over the top rope. It's a stretch just seeing somebody that small vs somebody as fit as Charlotte, let alone any monstrous men on the roster. Fine if they had a woman's Rumble, but not the main one. No way.
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I could be a possibility somewhere down the road, but not this year or anytime soon. There are some women on the roster that could be believable if they had enough help just like the men get help.

Tamina is a brute of a woman and would have no problem throwing some of the smaller guys over the top, same with Nia. Also if a few of them teamed up, like the two I just mentioned and include Charlotte, Becky, Naomi and Sasha, they could pretty much throw anyone over. So it is possible, I just don't see Vince and Co going it for it though. At least not in the foreseeable future.
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For the most part, women who competed in the Royal Rumble did so primarily because of some comedic or "sports entertainment" thing that Vince wanted to see. I don't believe women should be in matches against men, thereby challenging for male championships, or vice versa because, personally, I don't see a point to it. I'm all for and have been all for women being relevant to the WWE product; I'm really happy to see the progress that's been made over the course of the last 15 months or so. However, a woman winning the Royal Rumble, or really even wrestling against men, is something that strikes me as an asinine attempt at something just for the sake of being politically correct.

Pro wrestling isn't a real sport, we all know it and we all accept it because it's ultimately a form of entertainment. However, WWE is held to a different standard than most other traditional forms of entertainment as we've seen people getting so bent out of shape over angles and characters that would be perfectly acceptable on traditional TV shows. If you showed Kevin Owens delivering a Pop Up Powerbomb to Bayley, it wouldn't be 30 seconds before Twitter and Facebook blew up with people railing against WWE for advocating violence against women. You've also got to factor in the male ego into things because in spite of how much some essentially feel that primitive male instinct is something to be abhorred, there are a lot of guys who simply won't job out to women because it'd make them look bad.

There's virtually no crossover between men & women in just about every sport from boxing to mixed martial arts to golf. If something comes along in years to come that causes a shift in that practice and those attitudes, then MAYBE, and I do mean MAYBE it could be something to consider. Until then, if there's a woman to win a Royal Rumble match, then simply have an all female Royal Rumble match. To me, this is something extremely simple and doesn't have to be a complicated gender issue at all.
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No, the only time a woman should have won a royal rumble and gotten a title shot would have been when chyna was wrestling men.
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No, the only time a woman should have won a royal rumble and gotten a title shot would have been when chyna was wrestling men.
I was watching the 1999 King of the Ring and I guess this has to do more in hindsight but I thought if it wasn't Big Show, Chyna would have been a pretty good choice to become the KOTR winner.

As for her being the only conceivable woman to win the Rumble, let's not forget Awesome Kong though, she basically weights the same as most men wrestlers.

As for the likes of Sasha and Charlotte winning the Rumble. I probably don't see it anytime soon. I actually think a Women's Match headlining WM stands a better chance of happening, though I actually think this is probable after the ladies stealing the show at WM32.
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please no. 80% of the mens roster can put on a better match when given the chance then the best women in the company and the sooner everyone realises this the better. The women are fine in the spot they are in at the moment and until they get better depth (there's 4 to 6 decent women on the roster), they shouldn't be close to main eventing ppvs or having their own rumble.

The obsession with smaller workers pulling off miracles has come far enough and a woman outlasting the likes of Lesnar, wyatt and orton would only serve to put the company in a worse position than it already is
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For the most part, women who competed in the Royal Rumble did so primarily because of some comedic or "sports entertainment" thing that Vince wanted to see. I don't believe women should be in matches against men, thereby challenging for male championships, or vice versa because, personally, I don't see a point to it. I'm all for and have been all for women being relevant to the WWE product; I'm really happy to see the progress that's been made over the course of the last 15 months or so. However, a woman winning the Royal Rumble, or really even wrestling against men, is something that strikes me as an asinine attempt at something just for the sake of being politically correct.

Pro wrestling isn't a real sport, we all know it and we all accept it because it's ultimately a form of entertainment. However, WWE is held to a different standard than most other traditional forms of entertainment as we've seen people getting so bent out of shape over angles and characters that would be perfectly acceptable on traditional TV shows. If you showed Kevin Owens delivering a Pop Up Powerbomb to Bayley, it wouldn't be 30 seconds before Twitter and Facebook blew up with people railing against WWE for advocating violence against women. You've also got to factor in the male ego into things because in spite of how much some essentially feel that primitive male instinct is something to be abhorred, there are a lot of guys who simply won't job out to women because it'd make them look bad.

There's virtually no crossover between men & women in just about every sport from boxing to mixed martial arts to golf. If something comes along in years to come that causes a shift in that practice and those attitudes, then MAYBE, and I do mean MAYBE it could be something to consider. Until then, if there's a woman to win a Royal Rumble match, then simply have an all female Royal Rumble match. To me, this is something extremely simple and doesn't have to be a complicated gender issue at all.
This is almost the perfect answer to the OP's question.

The male ego is the be all and end all here. In previous years, we have seen Beth Phoenix eliminate Khali by kissing him over the top rope, as a comedic and essentially 'lightly entertaining' Rumble moment.

Aside from the PC Police who would shut inter-gender matches down from the get-go, truth is that a female Rumble winner would seem like a 'run before you can walk' situation. Massive strides have been made in the last year and that should not be taken lightly, nor should this Sunday's Cell match. But its one step at a time and this, right now just seems like a step too far.
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Only Donald Trump respects women more than me and believe you me when I say "probably not" to this idea. Granted, I'm tired of the Rumble stipulation of dude wins, dude headlines Mania in a title match. The change last year was a nice change. The match itself is hit or miss or hit for about five minutes and miss for the remaining hour.

But my main point is that as much as the women have been more entertaining in the ring and showing great athleticism, risk, and creativity they are still not even close to the strength, speed, and power of the men. If a woman were to win, it would have to be under some pretty shady circumstances like Charlotte hiring Show, Mark Henry, Lesnar, and Strowman to be her bodyguard during the match and throw everyone else out. Otherwise no woman in history has shown they should ever be close to winning this type of match, even Chyna.
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