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Old 10-02-2016, 02:19 PM
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Premise 1. The only value TNA has to WWE is the tape library. WWE is not going pay extra just to shut it down, and is not going to operate it as a fourth "brand".

Premise 2. The tape library isn't making TNA/Impact Wrestling any significant money.

So is there a deal possible where TNA sells the tape library to WWE for a "fair price", and Corgan (or Aroluxe, I suppose) operates Impact going forward?

What's a fair price? A "fair price" would be determined by comparison to what WWE paid per hour for the other tape libraries (besides ECW and WCW). According to a f4wonline article from 2014 that I can't google up (I get plenty of wrestling news sites reporting on the article though), f4wonline cited the "going rate" as $500 an hour. Between the weekly PPVs, 2 hours of Impact for about 10 years and monthly PPVs for 10 years, I count about 2000 hours of TV/PPV. 2000 * $500 = $1,000,000.

IF you're angling to buy and operate TNA, wouldn't you want WWE out of the bidding? I would. HEck, work in a clause where WWE buys the rights to the Impact back catalogue for $2000/month on a rolling basis, provided that Impact Wrestling can still use the footage for their shows, advertising, etc under license from WWE.
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Old 10-02-2016, 02:34 PM
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No. The problem is WWE would want to be able to expand the WWE network, and would want the library and all future matches.....they don't want to just own the past, if impact continues to air, wwe would want to have access to anything they do going forward, and that doesn't benefit TNA to not be able to expand on their own history.
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MAYBE, Possibly but doubtfull
IF Billy ends up with the company and plans to re-brand/name it to something other than TNA then your idea could work. give Vince EVERYTHING TNA (excluding the Impact name) for the right price..THEN announce that TNA Wresting IS DEAD and Impact Championship Wrestling is born in it's place, Keep the titles the same names but change over all TNA branding on the championships to I.C.W.
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Old 10-02-2016, 04:03 PM
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The tape library is the only thing with any real value to it, unless someone needs a pet project. No way Vince buys the tape library and allows TNA to continue because then he has to pay rights fees because TNA, Impact, Impact Wrestling, the PPV names etc are most likely trademarked, and I just don't see Vince wanting to pay money every time WWE wants to sell a DVD with TNA footage on it or to show it on the network etc.

Now if Corgan wants to completely rebrand the company moving forward, new name, new shows, new image etc and sell off the old footage and trademarks then its not a bad idea, and quite honestly if done right they could play out a hostile takeover from within (ala nWo or Aces & 8s) that would easily set them up moving forward, assuming WWE or whomever was willing to give them time to build the story line and "kill TNA" then both sides win. TNA gets a reboot, WWE gets their tape library that's now got some value to them.
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Old 10-02-2016, 04:07 PM
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This would never work. TNA's problem according to many TNA alumni is that the casual fan STILL has no idea they exist. Billy Corgan seizing full ownership of TNA but selling WWE the tape library would not benefit WWE.

It would amount to free exposure on the WWE Network for another wrestling company that is trying to compete in the U.S. market. No. It makes no sense.

DVD's? no. When the time comes A.J., Joe, Roode, and whomever else will have to try to get their TNA footage on their own accord. Even if Corgan gets control (at this point I assume he will) it doesn't guarantee that TNA or Impact Wrestling has a long life ahead of it.

For the record, I hope TNA lives, but WWE would not even want the tap library without ownership of the brand. Essentially that would give TNA free exposure to the WWE audience. Silly.
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This would never work. TNA's problem according to many TNA alumni is that the casual fan STILL has no idea they exist. Billy Corgan seizing full ownership of TNA but selling WWE the tape library would not benefit WWE.

It would amount to free exposure on the WWE Network for another wrestling company that is trying to compete in the U.S. market. No. It makes no sense.

DVD's? no. When the time comes A.J., Joe, Roode, and whomever else will have to try to get their TNA footage on their own accord. Even if Corgan gets control (at this point I assume he will) it doesn't guarantee that TNA or Impact Wrestling has a long life ahead of it.

For the record, I hope TNA lives, but WWE would not even want the tap library without ownership of the brand. Essentially that would give TNA free exposure to the WWE audience. Silly.
This. This is one of those fantasy booking things on paper that seems interesting, but in reality has little reason to happen. If WWE is buying TNA, even if it's just for the tape library, a non-compete is in order for Carter, Corgan and anyone else in power who will benefit from the sale, and the company goes under (TNA) because WWE has no reason to keep them operating when they have their own version on their own network already.
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I'm hearing the very negative feedback, which I respect. But I don't think some people understood what I was proposing, which tells me that I didn't explain it well.

The idea is that

1. WWE buys the TNA library as of Oct 1, 2016 for $500 per hour, around $1,000,000 from TNA or Impact Ventures or Corgan Media or Aroluxe or whoever.

2. The footage becomes WWE property to use on the WWE network, on WWE DVDs, on RAW/SD whatever.

3. TNA/Impact also has the right to use the footage on Impact and on PPVs, licensed from WWE, for some nominal fee. (Maybe there are some limitations here, details to be worked out--how much footage TNA can use.)

4. WWE and TNA also agree, on a rolling basis, that WWE will continue to buy TNA's content at the same $500/hour rate.

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No. The problem is WWE would want to be able to expand the WWE network, and would want the library and all future matches.....they don't want to just own the past, if impact continues to air, wwe would want to have access to anything they do going forward, and that doesn't benefit TNA to not be able to expand on their own history.
WWE would be getting the TNA library going forward.

As for TNA not being able to expand on their own history, they already can't do that because they completely turned over the talent roster. But if Corgan comes up with some plan to use old TNA footage, it would still be available for TNA to use on Impact.

Dtosm5150: Meant to quote you to reply, but the sale of the library would give WWE full rights to use everything, TNA logos and trademarks and all.
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The way I look at it, the TNA library is practically worthless to TNA. What I mean by that is they have no real way of turning that tape library into revenue. They can't make any money selling DVDs, they haven't made real money with the old TNA Vault service, etc. They're not going to make any money selling the legacy of Styles, Joe, JArrett, TNA Raven, Main Event Mafia, the Hogan-Bischoff era, Aces and Eights, Ultimate X, etc. They don't have the structure to monetize it. They just don't. WWE does.

Going forward, TNA/Impact is a TV show with international distribution deals, a PPV distribution deal, and possibly live ticket and merchandise sales. None of that has any value to WWE--they can't use TNA's international TV deals or POPtv deal because they've signed exclusive agreements with other cable networks.

So, if I were Billy Corgan, I'd be trying to work out the details on how to get WWE out of the "buy TNA to get the tape library" business. Figure out how to let WWE have the tape library without buying the company.

Note: I really don't think WWE is worried about TNA as competition.
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I agree that WWE would not do that. Doesn't make sense. If Impact Wrestling continues, then WWE wouldn't even use the tape library on WWE Network with the exception of using a match or two for an AJ Styles or Samoa Joe compilation. The only way that WWE buys the tape library is if it comes with everything, just like he did with TNA. That way, talent relations can bring on the guys and gals that they think are worth while, release the talent that they have no interest in keeping. Guys like EC3 will probably get rebranded to Derrick Bateman, and Lashley will probably want to leave again because he doesn't want to give up his MMA career.
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That's a better idea for Corgan to sell the TNA Video Library but keep the company.
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