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Old 08-31-2016, 07:50 PM
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I’ll freely admit that for years I fought this idea tooth and nail, claiming all along the way that there was built-in equity in the TNA name that they would be unwise to walk away from. I argued that walking away from this equity over what I felt were minor grievances like the TNA acronym hurting the promotion's reputation and ability to negotiate with advertisers and sponsors due to its synonymousness with “tits and ass” was short-sighted and pedantic. I argued that too much time had been spent building up the TNA brand to side-step it in favor of something else that would, in effect, signal another reset. Largely because to that point, or to the various points in time this topic has come up, TNA had already gone through multiple ones, including the half-hearted partial Impact Wrestling rebrand ushered in by Mick Foley back in May of 2011. Well, I was wrong on all counts. To varying degrees depending on which aspect we're talking about, but wrong nonetheless.

It's time for the TNA brand to die so the Impact Wrestling brand can live. Not because it garners lewd mental pictures of scantily clad women. It might to advertisers who know absolutely nothing about the wrestling business who've somehow managed to find themselves on a call with TNA's front office in spite of this fact — a situation not likely to occur. Not because it would signal another reset. We've seen plenty of those in one manner or another, and they've held a trademark on the "Impact Wrestling" name since 2011. Fans and advertisers alike already know what "Impact Wrestling" is, so there's no year zero reset happening if they were to operate under this name and this name alone. No, it's time for the TNA brand to die so the Impact Wrestling brand can live because that built-in equity I mentioned above is gone. It's completely evaporated. The lake is dried and the soil is cracked from the scorching sun. That equity they did have is gone in the eyes of the fans who've largely left TNA in the dust. Not just the fans who TNA was trying to bring in to raise the profile of the company, but even the one million (give or take) that would tune in every week on Spike. The name TNA is synonymous with failure. It's synonymous with Dixie Carter. It's synonymous with Hulk Hogan, Eric Bischoff, Immortal, EV2.0, Vince Russo, Abyssamania, Orlando Jordan, Sean Morley, Brooke Hogan, Clair Lynch, Jenna Morasca, Jesse Sorensen's broken neck, Victory Road 2011, Pacman Jones, Bubba the Lovesponge (good God did Hogan have run of show or what!?), Destination America, and everything else that's gone wrong under Carter's watch in the last eleven years.

I can't deny that the Impact Wrestling name is still mildly tainted by or with the same residue of TNA's failures, but with a full embrace of it, and only it, I still think that coupled with a potential exit of Dixie Carter from the company and with Billy Corgan as the second only President in their history, there's an opportunity here they can't afford to miss to truly, finally, emphatically reset and rebound. When you account for the actual talent on the roster and with the amount of turnover they've now undergone with so few "TNA originals" left, in a way, there's never been a better opportunity for them to completely reinvent themselves. But it starts with shedding their tumultuous past, and that starts with shedding the TNA name.

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I feel they should have changed the name to Impact Wrestling after the company reboot. TNA sounds like a titty bar reality show. It just shows that there is no one running the company with any business sense let alone wrestling sense. They don't do a single thing right.
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Old 08-31-2016, 08:38 PM
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I can't say I watch TNA with regularity, mostly for a lot of the reasons IDR mentioned, but I've been giving some peeks lately and things seem like they are getting better. The announcing is awful, mostly Matthews, but the story lines are okay and they have solid talent. There are some guys who are WWE cast offs like Lashley, Matt, and Jeff, but a lot of their talent is either guys like EC3 who WWE never really gave a chance to, or guys who have never worked for a bigger promotion with a handful of guys like Bennet. For the first time in a long time I don't feel like I'm watching the WWE retirement home hour.

I think a soft reboot could work wonders. There was a big discussion on another site a couple days ago about this very topic and while there were good points made for keeping the TNA for the brand recognition, I think that what people recognize when they see TNA isn't all that great. Going from TNA to Impact Wrestling would still retain some of the name value, while signifying that the company is ready to move forward. They could even keep the website name.

I think if Dixie is going to be phased out completely, it would be for the best. Corgan is an admitted wrestling fan and I hope he has what it takes to keep the company afloat and give people an alternative.

All that said, a name change isn't going to be a cure all. They have to consistently keep improving and show the fans that they aren't going to let them down. Corgan is a good step, but a lot of fans have been burned by TNA far too often, and I feel the chances are running out to show they want to improve.
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I can't say I watch TNA with regularity, mostly for a lot of the reasons IDR mentioned, but I've been giving some peeks lately and things seem like they are getting better. The announcing is awful, mostly Matthews, but the story lines are okay and they have solid talent. There are some guys who are WWE cast offs like Lashley, Matt, and Jeff, but a lot of their talent is either guys like EC3 who WWE never really gave a chance to, or guys who have never worked for a bigger promotion with a handful of guys like Bennet. For the first time in a long time I don't feel like I'm watching the WWE retirement home hour.

I think a soft reboot could work wonders. There was a big discussion on another site a couple days ago about this very topic and while there were good points made for keeping the TNA for the brand recognition, I think that what people recognize when they see TNA isn't all that great. Going from TNA to Impact Wrestling would still retain some of the name value, while signifying that the company is ready to move forward. They could even keep the website name.

I think if Dixie is going to be phased out completely, it would be for the best. Corgan is an admitted wrestling fan and I hope he has what it takes to keep the company afloat and give people an alternative.

All that said, a name change isn't going to be a cure all. They have to consistently keep improving and show the fans that they aren't going to let them down. Corgan is a good step, but a lot of fans have been burned by TNA far too often, and I feel the chances are running out to show they want to improve.
The name change isn't the cure-all. There is no cure-all. Not even a massive influx of capital would serve as one. What the name change could represent, however, is progress. Combined with the refreshed roster, key free agent signings, the potential for Carter's exit and Billy Corgan as the new President, there's enough there for a reset with more purpose than they've ever given a reset in their past.
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The name change isn't the cure-all. There is no cure-all. Not even a massive influx of capital would serve as one. What the name change could represent, however, is progress. Combined with the refreshed roster, key free agent signings, the potential for Carter's exit and Billy Corgan as the new President, there's enough there for a reset with more purpose than they've ever given a reset in their past.
That I totally agree with. For once the potential of a reset feels like it will mean something.

Like I said, since Billy took over, even though it was only a few weeks ago, I have noticed that when I do tune in the show seems better, and as a wrestling fan I can only hope the trend continues.

Some of the stuff with Matt and Jeff is getting old, but The Final Deletion brought my eyes back to the product, so in a way that worked as well.

Personally I just hope Eddie stays in the main event scene through all this. I love The Wolves and enjoy seeing Eddie being made a threat to a guy like Lashley.
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Even with the lose of guys like Aries and Roode this roster still has plenty of potential and some key moves moving forward could really go along way in the company elevating itself to the next level.

Guys like EC3, Lashley, Galloway, Bennett, Moose, and now Aron Rex are going to be main event players moving forward, but they need to get more out of guys like Tyrus and Eli Drake.

The X-Division help put the company on the map but right now this is the weakest the division has ever been they need more X-Division athletes to strengthen division.

I would love to see them partner with ROH Wrestling because there are some great advantages to being able to cross promote and they could feature ROH talent like Jay Lethal, Adam Cole, Dalton Castle, and the Briscoe Brothers routinely. Also , they need to go after the big free agents like a Cody Rhodes.

On a final note the commentary does need to be upgraded because that is a huge reason people will tune in or not, if Eli Drake is not an in ring talent he should be added to the commentary table.
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Welcome to the correct side of the argument. A wrestling company doesn't need a great name, but the TNA name is a drag on the company. Impact Wrestling is just fine.

Will TNA, excuse me, Impact Wrestling survive without PAnda Energy's money supporting Dixie Carter's ego? We'll see. I hope so.

That said, at this point, I wouldn't make a big deal of the rebranding. Just quietly drop "TNA" off of everything, without holding a press conference or a tweetstorm about it. Dixie Carter out, Billy Corgan in is worth selling. That's new enough to maybe get people to take a look at Impact again. "TNA --> Impact" isn't going to get that reaction, because it's already been done in a halfassed manner. Reaction is more, didn't they do that a few years ago and it didn't stick?

IF they ever build up to the point where they can bring back some TNA originals, then that can be the basis for a faction war with an actual point, "TNA guys" vs "Impact guys." OR maybe they don't have to have faction wars constantly?
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Although I agree that TNA should make way for Impact Wrestling, I do have one option that may or may not work in their favor. Since they “stole” so much from the WWE over the course of their run, why not steal just one more idea…one more big idea. What about TNA and Impact splitting up as brands?? You can have TNA Wrestling on Wednesday nights and Impact Wrestling on Thursday nights. I’d like to expand on this idea, but I’d like to see everyone’s opinions first to see if it’s even worth exploring.

Raw = Red = TNA led by Dixie Carter
Smackdown = Blue = Impact led by Billy Corgan

What do you think??
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What about TNA and Impact splitting up as brands?? You can have TNA Wrestling on Wednesday nights and Impact Wrestling on Thursday nights. I’d like to expand on this idea, but I’d like to see everyone’s opinions first to see if it’s even worth exploring.

Raw = Red = TNA led by Dixie Carter
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I think you are on drugs, this is a company that has reportedly been on the verge of closing on more than one occasion in the past.

The name 'TNA' has never really bothered me, I can understand why people would say that it doesn't help the product but each to their own, nothing some advertising of your product wouldn't help.

If they are going to change the name then Total Impact Wrestling or Global Impact Wrestling is fine, it doesn't change much away from the name like WWE changed from WWF.

One thing that's refreshing about TNA at the minute is that although Aries, Roode etc. have all left it's like a new era has come to the fore & the roster seems to have the right mix if not missing one or two tag & x-division talents.

If TNA could actually advertise, get a couple more PPV's on the go & hold tapings in different venues then hopefully they can run without financial problems in the future.
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TNA absolutely has to go, but "Impact Wrestling" doesn't sound like the name of a company, it sounds like the name of a show. I know it's standard thinking, but they really need something with a name that has a 3 letter acronym that can be chanted.

WWF, WWE, NWA, WCW, NXT, ECW, ROH, TNA, AWA, GFW, PWG, etc. etc. It's the standard because it works, and the bonus is it would have absolutely no mental association with TNA, because for most fans Impact and TNA are one in the same. They can keep the name of their flagship show as Impact if they want, but I think doing this would be a big move in the right direction, and while they're at it, 4 sided ring.

WWWF became WWF became WWE, and it didn't kill the business, you might say it even improved with each change, so I don't think TNA has anything to fear by making the change. They have been on the verge of going under so many times, I think this could only help. It's a strange psychological effect, but there have been plenty of instances of sports teams getting a new stadium, or a logo/uniform change, and all of a sudden they start winning, it's truly a morale booster, because it feels like a cleansing of any negative stigma that was associated with the old brand.
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