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Old 04-10-2016, 01:30 PM
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Okay I think we all pretty much agree that Wrestle Mania 32 was a disappointment on the whole but things can move on quickly in the WWE. This is what I would like to see at Payback, let me know what you think and ideas etc you guys have!
Match 1: Kalisto V Breeze (US Title match). Let's say that on next week's Smackdown there is a multi man match that Breeze wins, his angle heading towards Payback can be based around the the fact that has the image to represent America as champion (who better than Prince Pretty right?) It has been a crime how poorly utalised Breeze has been since coming up from NXT and a solid match to showcase his abilities at a Special event could be the first step to changing this. The match has the potential to be awesome. Result: Kalisto to retain.

Match 2: Kane V Corbin (Single) The big red monster came so close to winning the Andre the giant battle royal at WM only to have it snatched away by the Lone Wolf Baron Corbin. Demon Kane will be fueled to put the young up start in his place and this will happen at Payback! This gives Corbin a very credible, solid and Legendary opponent in his first feud in WWE which will be huge for him. Result: The match ends in a no contest/double count out.

Match 3: New Day V Uso's (Tag Title match) With the Uso's going over the Dudley's in there recent feud the Uso's seem like the next in line for a shot at the Tag Titles. We know this will be a good match from their previous clashes and will bridge the gap while teams like Enzo & Cass or the Vaudevillians are ready to enter the title picture. Result: New Day retain.

Match 4: Jericho V Cesaro (Single) This would be such a great match for both men and the fans. For Jericho it gives the chance to put over another fast rising talent who is red hot right now and for Cesaro it gives him the chance to compete with a genuine legend straight after returning from injury! Result: Cesaro wins.

Match 5: Owens V Zayn (Single) All the bad blood ends here as these 2 former friends collide one on one at last! Result: Owens dominates most of the match but Zayn grabs the win leaving Owens frustrated which leads him to attack Zayn after the match.

Match 6: Charlotte V Sasha (Women's Title match) This has to be the match after what happened at WM and the match everyone wants to see! Result: Sasha should win the title which I believe should have happened at WM but I guess with Charlotte being Ric Flair's daughter she gets some preferential treatment behind the scenes. Sasha new champion.

Main Event: Reigns V Styles (WWE title match) It pains me to say this but Reigns needs to have a solid run as Champion after 2 very short runs previously. This match for me has more to do with slowly turning Reigns heel rather than who wins or loses the match however the way I would go is Reigns should retain in a real battle which will then feed his ego as "the guy" by beating an internet darling in Styles putting more heat on him and getting him more boos to boot. This will slowly grind Reigns down until sooner or later he snaps and loses it with the fans thus turning him heel!

So let me know what you think?
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Match 1: Kalisto V Breeze (US Title match). Let's say that on next week's Smackdown there is a multi man match that Breeze wins, his angle heading towards Payback can be based around the the fact that has the image to represent America as champion (who better than Prince Pretty right?) It has been a crime how poorly utalised Breeze has been since coming up from NXT and a solid match to showcase his abilities at a Special event could be the first step to changing this. The match has the potential to be awesome. Result: Kalisto to retain.
Tyler Breeze? Did you just pick his name out of a hat? What makes you think Prince Jobber deserves a US title shot at all much less on PPV.
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Match 2: Kane V Corbin (Single) The big red monster came so close to winning the Andre the giant battle royal at WM only to have it snatched away by the Lone Wolf Baron Corbin. Demon Kane will be fueled to put the young up start in his place and this will happen at Payback! This gives Corbin a very credible, solid and Legendary opponent in his first feud in WWE which will be huge for him. Result: The match ends in a no contest/double count out.
I would agree with this but not the ending. If this match were to happen Corbin would need a decisive win. Kane would do what he does best and that's put over the new up & coming talent by not only losing but by making his opponent look like gold the entire match.
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Match 3: New Day V Uso's (Tag Title match) With the Uso's going over the Dudley's in there recent feud the Uso's seem like the next in line for a shot at the Tag Titles. We know this will be a good match from their previous clashes and will bridge the gap while teams like Enzo & Cass or the Vaudevillians are ready to enter the title picture. Result: New Day retain.
If this match happens for the 500th time I may vomit. This match has been done into the ground and I wouldn't pay to see it. It looks like New Day may still be feuding with LoN anyway so thank God this probably won't happen.
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Match 4: Jericho V Cesaro (Single) This would be such a great match for both men and the fans. For Jericho it gives the chance to put over another fast rising talent who is red hot right now and for Cesaro it gives him the chance to compete with a genuine legend straight after returning from injury! Result: Cesaro wins.
I could get behind this match. I like both men and think they could put on a fantastic match
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Match 5: Owens V Zayn (Single) All the bad blood ends here as these 2 former friends collide one on one at last! Result: Owens dominates most of the match but Zayn grabs the win leaving Owens frustrated which leads him to attack Zayn after the match.
So you want to take what can potentially be the feud of the 2nd half of this decade and blow it off in 3 weeks? This is a retarded idea on a forum that has a lot of retarded ideas. Can they have a match at Payback? Absolutely but it can not end here. They would need to have this match end in a way that builds the feud like ref stoppage or double count out.
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Match 6: Charlotte V Sasha (Women's Title match) This has to be the match after what happened at WM and the match everyone wants to see! Result: Sasha should win the title which I believe should have happened at WM but I guess with Charlotte being Ric Flair's daughter she gets some preferential treatment behind the scenes. Sasha new champion.
I agree Sasha should have won at 'Mania and was pissed Baby Flair retained. I don't see this happening at Payback though more likely it'll happen at SummerSlam with Sasha finally winning. For now it looks like we're getting a Harts/Flairs feud with Daddy and Uncle Bret about to play a bigger part (*gag*)
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Main Event: Reigns V Styles (WWE title match) It pains me to say this but Reigns needs to have a solid run as Champion after 2 very short runs previously. This match for me has more to do with slowly turning Reigns heel rather than who wins or loses the match however the way I would go is Reigns should retain in a real battle which will then feed his ego as "the guy" by beating an internet darling in Styles putting more heat on him and getting him more boos to boot. This will slowly grind Reigns down until sooner or later he snaps and loses it with the fans thus turning him heel!
I can see what you're saying here and this is more than likely what will happen. If it doesn't then I don't know.
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Some good ideas, some not so good with 1 laughably stupid idea. All in all a decent Payback card that we won't see.
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My reason's for Breeze getting a US Title opportunity I thought was made clear, he was one of the best performers on NXT but since moving up to the main roster has been left to go to waste which is shame I was using this a something of a spring board to get people to see what he is actually capable of.

As for the Corbin and Zayn results I was leaving those with room to continue there feuds respectively. Of cause the end results would see Corbin go over on Kane and likewise with Zayn over Owens along the way.

with new day V Uso's this is purely for filler purposes as realistically who is going to take the titles from new day as they have beaten every current team already but with Enzo & Cass and Vaudevillians coming up that gives them fresh teams to feud with in a few months time.
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Personally I would go with:

WWE World Heavyweight Championship
Roman Reigns vs. AJ Styles (I would hold Ambrose of this PPV and use AJ to further a Reigns heel turn that has seemingly just started)

WWE Women's Championship
Charlotte vs. Natalya (I do believe the injury reports re Sasha)

Singles Match:
Kevin Owens vs. Sami Zayn (Owens wins here, Zayn need's to keep coming close but keeps getting screwed by Owens to create a bigger payoff down the line)

Six Man Tag Team Match:
The Wyatt Family vs. League of Nations

Singles Match:
Chris Jericho vs. Cesaro (I would rather see this match than Jericho/Ambrose.)

WWE Intercontinental Championship
The Miz w/Maryse vs. Zack Ryder (This should be billed as Ryder's last chance at the IC title.)

Singles Match:
Baron Corbin vs. Dolph Ziggler (Logical match given what we saw on RAW, Dolph is the perfect guy to introduce Corbin to the main roster)

Triple Threat Match For the WWE Tag Team Championship
The New Day vs. The Dudley Boyz vs. Enzo & Cass (Would be a fun match and Enzo & Cass vs. New Day promo's would be fun too)

Kick Off Show
Becky Lynch vs. Emma
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Everyone, please swap Cesaro with Ambrose, thus making it Y2J vs Ambrose and make the Ryder vs Miz a triple threat match, also including Cesaro, in order to put Cesaro in a title hunt position.
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Okay I think we all pretty much agree that Wrestle Mania 32 was a disappointment on the whole but things can move on quickly in the WWE. This is what I would like to see at Payback, let me know what you think and ideas etc you guys have!
Match 1: Kalisto V Breeze (US Title match). Let's say that on next week's Smackdown there is a multi man match that Breeze wins, his angle heading towards Payback can be based around the the fact that has the image to represent America as champion (who better than Prince Pretty right?) It has been a crime how poorly utalised Breeze has been since coming up from NXT and a solid match to showcase his abilities at a Special event could be the first step to changing this. The match has the potential to be awesome. Result: Kalisto to retain.
The problem with this is that Tyler Breeze has less momentum right now than just about anyone that's featured even somewhat regularly on WWE television. Given the idea that it's "Payback", I ultimately see Ryback getting another crack at the title due to his belief that it was a fluke and that Kalisto wouldn't have won had the turnbuckle pad not come loose and had he not smacked into it. Ryback feels humiliated by the loss and wants one more crack so he can redeem himself.

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Match 2: Kane V Corbin (Single) The big red monster came so close to winning the Andre the giant battle royal at WM only to have it snatched away by the Lone Wolf Baron Corbin. Demon Kane will be fueled to put the young up start in his place and this will happen at Payback! This gives Corbin a very credible, solid and Legendary opponent in his first feud in WWE which will be huge for him. Result: The match ends in a no contest/double count out.
This match just makes no real sense to me and the ending certainly won't be doing anyone any favors. Baron Corbin had a solid debut against Dolph Ziggler and he left him lying after beating him down. I see Ziggler getting a shot at Corbin as a means of gaining vengeance and Corbin needs to win his very first ppv match on the main roster. Going to all the trouble of setting up a ppv match with a brand new talent to end in a double count out when it's his first ppv just sends the wrong message entirely. Also, Kane is not who should be Corbin's first opponent because...well frankly, people are bored beyond tears with Kane and not many are interested in seeing Corbin in a slow, plodding match at this point. Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan of Kane and I think he's a highly underappreciated guy, but he's someone I could see Corbin possibly feuding with a little later. Corbin's first feud should be against someone that brings a lot of energy and excitement into matches and that's definitely not Kane.


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Match 3: New Day V Uso's (Tag Title match) With the Uso's going over the Dudley's in there recent feud the Uso's seem like the next in line for a shot at the Tag Titles. We know this will be a good match from their previous clashes and will bridge the gap while teams like Enzo & Cass or the Vaudevillians are ready to enter the title picture. Result: New Day retain.
I'm not really sure where New Days goes from here, but I don't have much interest in seeing them go up against the Usos for the thousandth time, especially as WWE looks to be building New Day into fully fledged babyfaces.

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Match 4: Jericho V Cesaro (Single) This would be such a great match for both men and the fans. For Jericho it gives the chance to put over another fast rising talent who is red hot right now and for Cesaro it gives him the chance to compete with a genuine legend straight after returning from injury! Result: Cesaro wins.
It's possible I suppose, though they'd need to shift focus from Jericho's program with Styles so he could concentrate on Cesaro. It has the potential to be a great match, though there could still be some sort of shenanigans that prevents Styles from facing Roman Reigns at Payback. Some sort of "screw you" storyline to build Styles as a sympathetic face that's already been screwed out of possibly becoming WWE Champion with Chris Jericho possibly playing a part in it. We should have a better picture of these potential programs after tomorrow night.

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Match 5: Owens V Zayn (Single) All the bad blood ends here as these 2 former friends collide one on one at last! Result: Owens dominates most of the match but Zayn grabs the win leaving Owens frustrated which leads him to attack Zayn after the match.
There's potential money in this feud and I think that's one of the reasons why we've yet to see Zayn vs. Owens one on one. If WWE allows Zayn to really establish who he is, what he's about, why he hates Kevin Owens on the mic with a good, emotional, passionate promo, he'll immediately have people invested in him. For their first one on one outing, I could see Owens cheating his ass off to come out with the win as a means of further building things up to make Sami seem more sympathetic and to want to see Owens get what's coming to him.

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Match 6: Charlotte V Sasha (Women's Title match) This has to be the match after what happened at WM and the match everyone wants to see! Result: Sasha should win the title which I believe should have happened at WM but I guess with Charlotte being Ric Flair's daughter she gets some preferential treatment behind the scenes. Sasha new champion.
I think it'll be Natalya who gets the next shot and I've got no problem with that. WWE has protected Sasha Banks very well since her main roster debut as she's yet to be really be beaten. After all, it was Becky Lynch who tapped out at WrestleMania while Sasha was prevented from interfering by Ric Flair. Charlotte and Natalya had a fantastic bout at Roadblock and this would could be even better now that there looks like there's going to be a story attached to it. Sasha's time will come but considering that Charlotte just became the WWE Women's Champion, I think a one month reign is kind of anti-climactic and I think she'll wind up holding the title until SummerSlam. Or, another possibility, possibly remote but one that has a much better shot of happening than in the past, is we see our first women's MITB ladder match with Sasha scoring the win and guaranteeing herself a shot at the title. Either way, I see Charlotte holding onto the title through the summer.

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Main Event: Reigns V Styles (WWE title match) It pains me to say this but Reigns needs to have a solid run as Champion after 2 very short runs previously. This match for me has more to do with slowly turning Reigns heel rather than who wins or loses the match however the way I would go is Reigns should retain in a real battle which will then feed his ego as "the guy" by beating an internet darling in Styles putting more heat on him and getting him more boos to boot. This will slowly grind Reigns down until sooner or later he snaps and loses it with the fans thus turning him heel!

So let me know what you think?
This is sort of how I see the match going if it goes down. Remember, they could always do some sort of screwjob tactic to get Styles out of the title picture for a while, but I doubt it. I could see this furthering a heel turn for Reigns and I think that'd be the best scenario when you pair it with Styles giving Reigns a helluva battle. I don't think anyone expects Reigns to drop the title and that it's a situation that was sort of similar to Reigns' match with Daniel Bryan at Fastlane last year in that hardly anyone expected Reigns to lose, but they were hoping for and expecting a strong, entertaining match. If Styles looks strong in defeat, even comes genuinely close to beating Reigns a couple of times, Reigns possibly uses some underhanded tactics that're not really overtly cheating but certainly a departure from his normal tactics, etc. then I think everyone will come out a winner.
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My reason's for Breeze getting a US Title opportunity I thought was made clear, he was one of the best performers on NXT but since moving up to the main roster has been left to go to waste which is shame I was using this a something of a spring board to get people to see what he is actually capable of.

As for the Corbin and Zayn results I was leaving those with room to continue there feuds respectively. Of cause the end results would see Corbin go over on Kane and likewise with Zayn over Owens along the way.

with new day V Uso's this is purely for filler purposes as realistically who is going to take the titles from new day as they have beaten every current team already but with Enzo & Cass and Vaudevillians coming up that gives them fresh teams to feud with in a few months time.
I think Ryback would probably get another shot against Kalisto. Kalisto is 1-0 against Ryback. With it only being 3 more RAWs until Payback, it would be the easiest and most realistic match they could pull off unless they do a random number one contender's match for the title.

I think they may do Ziggler vs. Corbin at Payback. I see they've been building it up on RAW and Smackdown this past week. It'd be smart for them to continue to build on that rather than finish their feud on a RAW or Smackdown prior to Payback.

Yeah true. New Day doesn't have anybody to face. Usos make the most sense especially coming off the win against The Dudleyz. I'd just hope the Usos turn heel to add a different twist to it.

Also, Jericho looks like he's feuding with Ambrose.
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***WWE PAYBACK***


WWE World Heavyweight Championship
Roman Reigns (c) Vs. AJ Styles

WWE Women Championship
Charlotte (c) Vs. Natalya

WWE InterContinental Championship
The Miz (c) Vs. Cesaro

WWE Tag Team Championship
The New Day (c) Vs. Enzo & Big Cass

WWE United States Championship
Kalisto (c) Vs. Sincara

Other matches could be grudge matches:
*. The Wyatt Family Vs. The League Of Nations
*. Kevin Owens Vs. Sami Zayn

1. WWE WHC Match: It could have an interference considering that Anderson and Gallows have already debuted. It could be fun battle though as it would be a well mesh of wrestling styles of Reigns and Styles. I am gonna mark out if AJ Styles wins be it via interference or not. But I am doubtful on Reigns losing the title so soon.

2. WWE Women Title Match: Natalya needs to end the dirty win streak of Charlotte here itself. She deserves a title stint especially after the overhaul of the Divas Division.

3. WWE IC Title Match: Cesaro needs to win the strap from Miz and then have a long reign too.

4. WWE US Title Match: No idea what to do about Kalisto or US title. Neither me, nor WWE.

5. WWE Tag Title Match: New Day need to lose but Enzo/Cass winning the titles seems too soon to me.

Owens-Zayn needs to happen at Summerslam where Zayn finally goes over.
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Here is my predicted card, I hope it's a good PPV because I will be there in Chicago for the event.

- Roman Reigns (c.) vs. AJ Styles (WWE World Heavyweight Championship)
- The Miz (c) vs. Cesaro (Intercontinental Championship)
- Kevin Owens vs Sami Zayne
- Wyatt's vs League of Nation
- Dean Ambrose vs Jericho
- The New Day (c) vs. Dudley Boys
(WWE Tag Team Title Championship)
- Charlotte (c.) vs Natalya (Woman's Championship)
- Kalisto (c.) vs Ryback (United States Championship)
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