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Old 03-10-2016, 12:50 PM
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TNA PR strikes again, it seems. I know Anderson has been doing a whole lot of nothing of late, but I don't thnk I'm ever going to be shocked at the decisions this company makes regarding it's best flag-bearers. Styles, Joe, Daniels and Kaz, Manik/TJ Perkins and now Anderson. These men are not just talented performers who were let go. They were talented performers who championed the company, constantly, during their time there. Sure, there were a few issues here and there (since I'm sure someone will bring up Joe's off-the-cuff shoot from years back), but generally, these performers genuinely cared about the brand, which apparently didn't genuinely care about them nearly as much.

Thanks for everything, Ken. Sorry TNA apparently treated you like trash on your way out the door.
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Perhaps he should go to New Japan because at this point, there aren't all that many options out there for him to succeed in. He obviously won't be back in WWE after the Orton incident, he just burned this bridge here in TNA, Jarrett probably won't do much with him, and I don't know if I want to see him in Lucha Underground.
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When you see something like this happen once, you brush it off. When you see it happen twice, you make a quick note of it. When you see it happen nearly every time this happens, it's the company's problem.

If I remember correctly, TNA recently restructured the way it does contracts (yes again) with the wrestlers getting guaranteed money but having TNA control their indy bookings. Basically TNA would get to send their talent to whatever companies they want for no extra money to the wrestlers, allowing TNA to get some of the money back for the wrestlers' contracts.

In other words, TNA is a wrestling pimp and the wrestlers are its ladies of choice. If you were a wrestler in TNA, how would that make you feel? You don't get to pick the indy spots you work, you might get to work three days a month for TNA (or zero in Anderson's case as TNA hasn't actually had him wrestle in months) and you're part of the laughingstock of wrestling.

My point is there's always something with TNA. It was Perkins talking about how awesome the company was and getting released. Before that it was Jeff Hardy being a huge embarrassment to the company at Victory Road and keeping his job because something about star power. Before that it was bringing in people like Val Venis and Orlando Jordan and putting them over TNA talent because something about star power again.

TNA continues to make it seem like they really, really don't care about their talent and sees them only as means to an end. That's fine if you're on fire and one of the best promotions in the world but TNA has continued to flounder for years now and isn't seeming to get any better (at least on the business side of things). It's clear that they're one of the worst run promotions in history and Anderson leaving without so much as a last match to put someone over proves that. I mean, the guy is a two time World Champion and a solid midcarder and he just leaves one day? That's the best TNA can do?
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Either that, or that they can't afford to care about them to any greater extent than they do right now, which is tantamount to producing the same result — very disgruntled ex-employees who either disparage the company after the fact, or simply have little of positive note to say when asked to comment on their time there.

I'm trying to think of any non-superstar (so not including Sting and Angle) who left, for whatever the reason, and still spoke positively of the company afterward. I can't think of anyone.
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Didn't he do an interview like three months ago where he was positive towards TNA? And wasn't he equally vicious to WWE while with TNA?

I mean, TNA's fucked up multiple times and doesn't deserve any benefit of the doubt, but it's Mr. Anderson we're talking about. A martyr he hasn't been, save in his own mind.

@Klunderbunker: Regarding their contract system, I'm pretty sure it's the same system used in Mexico by AAA and CMLL with their partner/subsidiary promotions as well as in Japan by New Japan. While it seems unfair (in that they're not making extra money), if they're being guaranteed a good monthly wage then there's little onus on the wrestlers to bitch as opposed to it being on TNA to provide those indie shows and pay their talents on time. The contract system itself isn't a problem, it's TNA's administration.
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I can't speak to the actual contract formula. In the case of performers who sign deals that give them a guarantee and then complain about not being able to take outside bookings, that's their problem the way I see it. You're being paid to be a TNA employee, so they're doing you a favor by allowing you to work outside of their promotion whether they are or aren't using you enough. If you don't like what you signed for, that's also your problem.

But my issue here is that nearly every talent that leaves does so with the nastiest taste in their mouths, so this is well beyond just the contract structure IMO. It's a company-wide HR/PR problem because you just don't see this kind of venom being spit at any other company sans maybe WWE every now and then.
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I can't speak to the actual contract formula. In the case of performers who sign deals that give them a guarantee and then complain about not being able to take outside bookings, that's their problem the way I see it. You're being paid to be a TNA employee, so they're doing you a favor by allowing you to work outside of their promotion whether they are or aren't using you enough. If you don't like what you signed for, that's also your problem.

But my issue here is that nearly every talent that leaves does so with the nastiest taste in their mouths, so this is well beyond just the contract structure IMO. It's a company-wide HR/PR problem because you just don't see this kind of venom being spit at any other company sans maybe WWE every now and then.
If the contracts were restructured and the wrestlers didn't have any say it the new terms (not saying that's what happened), that's not on them. That's ALL TNA trying to make things better for themselves instead of the roster, which seems to happen far more often than not.

It's true that almost no one leaves TNA with a kind word. I can't say I'm shocked though as the stuff they've done, including falling below ROH for all intents and purposes, really does show how horribly that place is run. Wrestlemania is in three weeks and everyone and their mother is holding a show in and around Dallas. You know who isn't, for at least the third year in a row? TNA. It really does come off like either A, they have no idea what they're doing or B, they really just don't care. I know running house shows isn't the most financially sound idea for them right now, but I refuse to believe that these nothing companies can book a show there but TNA can't. That doesn't add up.
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Just when TNA looks like putting together a decent roster again and signing guys to guaranteed contracts they start releasing people again.

Mr Anderson hasn't been part of anything major over the last while, the last I heard he was earning a big sum in TNA so it makes sense for both parties to end this agreement.

Not sure what exactly TNA is planning with 'exclusive' contracts, there doesn't appear to be any house shows and they are still taping 4-6 weeks of content at a time.
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If the contracts were restructured and the wrestlers didn't have any say it the new terms (not saying that's what happened), that's not on them. That's ALL TNA trying to make things better for themselves instead of the roster, which seems to happen far more often than not.

It's true that almost no one leaves TNA with a kind word. I can't say I'm shocked though as the stuff they've done, including falling below ROH for all intents and purposes, really does show how horribly that place is run. Wrestlemania is in three weeks and everyone and their mother is holding a show in and around Dallas. You know who isn't, for at least the third year in a row? TNA. It really does come off like either A, they have no idea what they're doing or B, they really just don't care. I know running house shows isn't the most financially sound idea for them right now, but I refuse to believe that these nothing companies can book a show there but TNA can't. That doesn't add up.
That can't happen. Restructuring occurs when both sides agree to the terms. TNA can't take an existing contract and just say tomorrow "well, we were paying you $10, but now we're paying you $1". They'd be taken to court immediately, and would lose in no time.

According to the main page, Anderson was released due to his behavior at the Bethlehem tapings... whatever that means. But at the end of the day, we agree, there's a problem when everyone leaving your company is doing so in such a negative manner. And it's not always over being paid on time or not. I know that's the low-hanging fruit joke to make, but Taz and others have confirmed they were never paid late. That their issues stemmed elsewhere.

It just doesn't help their image problem, and it doesn't help that this has been the case for more than a decade. The very first ROH show I ever attended began with a "Fuck TNA" chant. Not even an "ROH" chant. Literally, the first chant of the night was "Fuck TNA" for absolutely no reason other than the fans genuinely hated them.
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Thanks for everything, Ken. Sorry TNA apparently treated you like trash on your way out the door.
Are we sure TNA treated him like trash, or was he just having fun with a "Fuck TNA" chant? The word is he got canned for his behavior during the UK tour. What exactly did he do? Did it warrant being fired? Was TNA looking for an out to get a hefty contract off the books? We probably will never know exactly what transpired and just get bits of truth from both sides.

In terms of talent being bitter when leaving, sure it seems problematic but plenty of guys leave other promotions and air their grievances and most fans attribute it to sour grapes, TNA doesn't get the same luxury. Everything TNA does is magnified due to their history of inept decisions but honestly this one is something that will blow over pretty quickly.

I haven't been interested in Anderson since TNA found a way to ruin both of his championship runs, so honestly if it means the difference in keeping Ken versus getting new talent I'm not sad at all.

I also get the idea that TNA should take care of the guys who vocally supported it, but aside from TJP none of the guys released really seemed to be let go in a malicious manner it was always more or less monetary.
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