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Old 09-25-2015, 09:37 PM
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In watching WrestleMania 4.....NOT having a Randy Savage-Ricky Steamboat rematch from the year before.

This would've been a guaranteed classic, and could've made Savage's first title win night even more memorable, if he had avenged his loss from the previous year.

And it's not like they had anything great lined up instead. Greg "The Hammer" Valentine was not all that big of a deal in 1988. He was serviceable, but his best years were behind him, nobody really cared about him by then, and everyone knew Savage would beat him.

Steamboat was a better wrestler, bigger star, and had major history with Savage from the prior year.

I understand he was being "de-pushed" because Vince was mad that he asked for time off shortly after winning the IC title....but him advancing to round 2 wouldn't have made much difference.
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Old 09-25-2015, 11:41 PM
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Screw Job Finish at Starrcade 97 - This was the perfect time to have the NWO (finally) lose and Sting was set up for success, the slow count, outside interference, and perception that Hogan won clean and was robbed was a huge disappointing ending to the most anticipated match of the year in all of Pro Wrestling
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Old 09-26-2015, 12:08 AM
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While I personally enjoyed the surprise and always have wanted to see somebody end it, Brock Lesnar ending The Undertaker's streak robbed a want from about 95% of wrestling fans, seeing The Undertaker retire still undefeated at WrestleMania
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Old 09-26-2015, 12:36 AM
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Like mentioned, the end of The Streak. I was fine with The Streak theoretically being ended, but NOT by Brock Lesnar. Brock Lesnar was the wrong person at the wrong time. If it had been Edge in 2008 or CM Punk in 2013, I would have been more ok with it. Lesnar ending it just ruined wrestling for me. I've never been able to be invested in wrestling since the end of The Streak, to the same level I was before.

A few more examples:

Not booking Ric Flair vs. Hulk Hogan for the WWE Championship at WrestleMania 8.

A lot of fans (myself not included) wanted to see Booker T become World Heavyweight Champion at WrestleMania 19, and to this day I still hear people say that the loss to Triple H somehow "ruined" Booker's career. I wanted Triple H to retain, and I think it worked out best for the long run.

Even though both title match situations at WrestleMania 20 wound up being amazing, I think a lot of people were disappointed that Chris Benoit moved to RAW after winning the Royal Rumble. They had teased Brock Lesnar vs. Chris Benoit for the WWE Championship for months and months, and we never got it at WrestleMania. I was tremendously disappointed to see Benoit leave SmackDown.

Having Roman Reigns win the 2015 Royal Rumble. Fans wanted Daniel Bryan, Dolph Ziggler, or Dean Ambrose to win the Rumble and headline WrestleMania (I was fine with Bryan or Ziggler, but not Ambrose). But all three of them were jobbed out and booked to look like jokes in the Rumble. By the time it came down to the final four, fans were cheering for Rusev, Kane, and even Big Show over Roman Reigns, because NOBODY wanted to see him win. We got Roman Reigns winning to the single most negative crowd reaction in WWE history, even surpassing Batista's from the year before, and an absolute garbage WrestleMania main event.
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Old 09-26-2015, 12:54 AM
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Screw Job Finish at Starrcade 97 - This was the perfect time to have the NWO (finally) lose and Sting was set up for success, the slow count, outside interference, and perception that Hogan won clean and was robbed was a huge disappointing ending to the most anticipated match of the year in all of Pro Wrestling
This is a great answer. Sting vs. Hogan at Starrcade 97 was as close to a flawless build-up a you can possibly get. This was the absolute peak of WCW, and was the culmination of the NWO angle. The ending was so simple, Sting beats Hogan and reclaims the WCW Title. Sometimes the obvious move is the right move, you give the people what they want. This was a classic example of Bischoff out thinking himself.

The other obvious choice would be the entire Invasion angle. The decision to pull the trigger on this angle, knowing full well the limitations of the WCW roster they were bringing in, was probably the worst booking decision ever made by the WWE. As the Invasion continued, the bad decisions were compounded and the result was a terribly executed story that in no way lived up to the expectations of fans. The ramifications of this disaster rocked the WWE for years, and you could argue that it's effects are still felt today. The WWE tanked hard in terms of ratings after the end of the Monday Night Wars, and the Invasion angle ran the company further into the ground. It's a ratings hole they have never recovered from. If handled properly, the acquistion of WCW could have benefitted the WWE greatly and helped them sustain their success.

Triple H vs. Booker T at Mania 19 also comes to mind. Based on the way this match was built, Booker T had to go over. Triple H basically said that Booker T couldn't be World Champion because he was black, then he went over. It was ridiculous then, it's ridiculous now, and it's especially bad because you know that Triple H thoguht that even if he won he could "make" Booker T in that match. Because Triple H thinks he's Ric Flair. The problem is that Triple H was not, and is not, Ric Flair, and beating Booker T was fucking dumb. I wouldn't have had a problem with it if the build wasn't so lopsided, with Triple H shitting on everything that Booker T had accomplished and utilizing very very thinly veiled racism to draw heat. Having a heel cut a promo like that is fine, but you've got to see that heel get his comeuppance and see the babyface vindicated. That did not happen.

A more recent example of a booking decision that robbed the fans of what they wanted would be the 2014 Royal Rumble. Every single fan in that arena wanted Daniel Bryan to come out at number 30 and win that match. It didn't happen and the crowd shat all over everything. This finish did end up being another blessing in disguise however, as it brought legitimacy to the idea that the WWE did not want to see Daniel Bryan on top. Eventually, he would break through and would be added to the main event at WrestleMania 30, ultimately leading to one of the most satisfying payoffs in WWE history if only because the fans dragged the WWE to that point and basically forced it to happen.
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Old 09-26-2015, 02:20 AM
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I'm going to go slightly off-tangent and say the entire booking of Vader through his WWE run - he debuted at Royal Rumble 1996 and was pushed heavily in that match as a monster, before getting eliminated by Shawn Michaels (one of the smallest guys in the match...); the next night he destroyed Gorilla Monsoon to set up a 'suspension' storyline so he could heal an injury. This basically stopped any momentum he had from the Rumble as he was off-screen for two months.

When he came back, he was part of a 6-man tag at an awful Wrestlemania, then into a feud with a barely mobile Yokozuna, losing to Jake the Snake (at this point a mere shadow of his former self) at King of the Ring and then the bizarre booking of his Summerslam match against Michaels, which he never really recovered from, before finally losing a no. 1 contenders match to Sid, of all people. He barely flickered as relevant again.

The thing is, there were, in that era, realistically only a smattering of WCW stars that the staunchly pro-WWE crowd would know of. Vader was one of them. The fans were genuinely excited - listen to the pop he got (despite being a heel) at the Royal Rumble. He *should* have been 1996's version of Brock Lesnar, a monster who was unstoppable by virtue of being brutal and aggressive but also because he was genuinely that damn good in the ring. One of the few (like Lesnar) who genuinely made it look like everything he did actually hurt.

Had they made him a monster heel, I'd have been fine with some of his booking decisions. Put him in a 6-man at Wrestlemania, as no one man could stop him alone; have him get dq'd at King of the Ring for excessive use of force - but with a proper payoff, not a confusing Summerslam loss. But given his injury, I wouldn't have had him debut at the Rumble, let him convalesce before appearing.

Vader could have been a huge villain in WWE. Who knows, he may have ended up the same. But his booking never have him a chance, depriving fans of seeing a run that genuinely excited and interested the WWE Universe
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The revealing of Hornswoggle as Vince's illegitimate son. A story that was built up for weeks and weeks which many thought would end up being the next big storyline in wrestling, basically ended up as a joke. People wanted to see a legitimate ending to that story and it was pretty obvious WWE changed plans at the last second for one reason or another. So disappointing to me personally.

Sting not going over HHH at Mania. Surprised this hasn't been mentioned yet. It really wouldn't have made a difference had Sting been the one to go over that night as HHH hasn't done anything since Mania. Plus the build and the pageantry all practically begged for a Sting win. I know I wasn't the only one scratching my head after HHH pinned him and left feeling robbed of a great moment.

HHH going over Booker at Mania 19 for much the same reasons as above. Made no sense to have HHH go over after that particular build and it damaged Booker's career to the point where it took 5 more years for him to win the World title. Dumb booking.

Fingerpoke of Doom. Goldberg loses by way of taser(...) to give Nash the WCW Championship. On the day of the rematch, Goldberg is arrested for stalking Miss Elizabeth(...) leading to Hogan return and insertion into title match against Nash. Crowd is hyped. Cue Fingerpoke of Doom collectively destroying Goldberg, Nash, and WCW in the process. The biggest thing WCW had going for them at this time was Goldberg and his undefeated streak. To take that away and than have the payoff to Nash's win be to just give the title back to Hogan (who people were beyond sick of at this point) and reform the NWO (which people were tired of) was beyond moronic. This angle got what we call real "X-Pac" heat as it led a ton of people to switch over to Raw for good.
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Most recently the biggest booking bust would be the HHH Vs. Sting match. It was made up to be a rivalry between the two men individually but ended up as a WWE Vs. WCW angle..something that should not happen in 2015.

The Nexus losing to John Cena is also one from recent memory. The Nexus was on the verge of becoming something great. So the WWE figured it was time to bury them. Wade Barrett could have been made into a huge star due to the Nexus while guys like Slater, Otunga etc could still have have decent roles. Daniel Bryan was the only good thing to come out of that whole story. Even Bryan got main event fame years later.
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Most recently the biggest booking bust would be the HHH Vs. Sting match. It was made up to be a rivalry between the two men individually but ended up as a WWE Vs. WCW angle..something that should not happen in 2015.

The Nexus losing to John Cena is also one from recent memory. The Nexus was on the verge of becoming something great. So the WWE figured it was time to bury them. Wade Barrett could have been made into a huge star due to the Nexus while guys like Slater, Otunga etc could still have have decent roles. Daniel Bryan was the only good thing to come out of that whole story. Even Bryan got main event fame years later.
Wade Barrett would have been a huge star if not for The Nexus. That storyline sabotaged Barrett for years. He was a no-name rookie shoved into main event storylines he was nowhere NEAR ready for, and headlined PPV after PPV for months on end, and it made fans hate him in the worst possible way - the "I don't want this guy on my TV" way. It took him years to recover from Nexus.
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Who can forget the HHH/KURT ANGLE/SMH love triangle in 2000? Pure gold that had an awful ending to the story.

Not to mention the Rikishi being the driver who ran SCSA over - that was a bullshit storyline, and the first I recall during the Attitude Era that involved a top star and it was dogshit.
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