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Old 08-05-2014, 12:51 PM
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I'm aware there are threads for rebooking WCW in many eras, but I wanted to set one up where you could rebook anything you wanted in WCW, be it simple a match it two or even an entire era.

For now I'm going to rebook some of the Hulk Hogan era prior to the nWo. Hogan was getting booed a lot towards his (first) final red & yellow days in 1996. Personally as much as done WCW crowds didn't take to Hogan I think alot of it stemmed from him not losing enough matches (or any cleanly), getting involved in main events where he really had no right to and the daft that his hatches either ended with a hulk up, big boot & leg drop or some form of DQ finish. Looking back (hindsight us a wonderful thing), had he put over certain people at certain times in doing so actually gave us reason to believe he really might lose a match then I think the crowds might have taken to him.

So now I'm going to rebook some moments, matches, characters etc in the 1994-1996 Hulkamania WCW era. I'm also gonna scrap the Dungeon of Doom mostly.

Bash at the Beach 1994would remain the sane a Hogan would beat Flair for the title, this is one of the only times I believe the crowd were truly behind Hogan in those early days.

Clash of the Champions XXVIII Flair defeats Hogan for the title with the figure four leg lock, Hogan has a bad knee injury and Flair exploits it. Hogan doesn't quit but actually passes out from the pain.

Fall Brawl 1994 Flair defeats Steve Austin in the title match, afterwards Hogan returns on crutches saying he never quit and wants the title back. Flair says he'll fight him anytime anywhere! Hogan says he'll put his career on the line, before they can set up when and where Flair attacks Hogan with the belt. He goes after Hogan's knee again.

Also on the night Sting is involved in War Games against Vader's team, Stings team loses to Vader's team. This starts to set up Vader been unstoppable.

The Main Event The event where Dave Sullivan teamed up with Hogan, that match would be scrapped. Hogan and Flair are involved in a contract signing for a cage match at Halloween Havoc. Hogan is still on crutches here, he sats to Flair seen as though he is putting his career on the line he should do the same. Flair talks a big game trying to dance around it but Hogan asks him if he's afraid of losing to a man with a bum knee. Flair smiles realising Hulk's knee will still be bad at Havoc. He agrees and signs the contract, Hogan signs and sats just one more thing. Dropping his crutches to the ground, a Flair goes nuts trying to attack Hogan but Hogan gets the upper hand knocking Flair out the ring setting up Havoc.

Halloween Havoc 1994 The Hogan/Flair match to pretty much go down as it did but no Mr T as the referee. Still have the masked man as Brutus as he can fight Hogan at a later date.

On the same night Vader demolishes Jim Duggan and afterwards calls for the title.

WCW Saturday Night A tournament is announced for Clash with the winner getting a shot at the title at Starrcade.

Clash of the Champions XXIX Vader wins the tournament defeating Sting in the final, Steve Austin is the cause for Sting losing as Sting beat him in the semis to reach the final.

Hulk Hogan defeats Bruti to end the masked man storyline, after the match Vader's music hits he just watches from the ramp staring Hogan down as the show ends.

WCW Saturday Night, the Macho Man joins WCW, saying he will be watching the main event at Starrcade closely as he wants a shot at the World Title.

Starrcade 1994 Vader defeats Hulk Hogan clean. Vader is unstoppable at this point claiming the title from a defeated Hogan. This sets up. Hulk having to find his Eye of the Tiger moment in coming weeks.

Sting defeats Steve Austin for the US Title.

In the coming weeks Sting starts a title vs title feud with Arn Anderson

Superbrawl VHulk Hogan vs. Vader for the title ends in a no contest when Randy savage interferes. Earlier in the night he had got into a scuffle with Vader backstage. This annoys Hogan who wants the title back. Savage and Hogan shout at each other as Vader attacks both leaving both men down.

Sting beats Arn Anderson in a two out of three falls match to win the television title, Sting now holds both the US and TV titles.

Uncensored 2005Hulk Hogan beats Vader for the title in a falls count anywhere match. The street fight will cover Hogan's limits and he uses a chair on Vader at the end to win. After the match a bloody Hogan holds the title aloft as he has finally regained the title. Vader is not done though as he and Hogan are held apart by Security.

Slamboree 1995 Hogan and Savage beat Vader and Flair (who comes back as a surprise partner for Vader), after the match Hogan & Savage are beaten down. Hogan is put through a table Vader and is "injured" therefore missing a few months.

Great American Bash 1995 Main Event: Sting successfully defends his US/TV Title against Ric Flair, Anderson gives Sting the spine-buster, Flair is about to get the won when Savage runs in and distracts, the ref tries to get him out. He is distracted long enough that Sting manages to get up and deliver the Scorpion deathdrop to get the win. After the fight Sting & Savage fight off Anderson & Flair

Earlier on the night Savage vs Vader for the number one contender match. Savage looks like winning the match but is dustracted when Arn Anderson goes after Lanny Poffo, Vader wins the match by Vader bombing Flair.

Bash at the Beach 1995 Hogan beats Vader in a steel cage match to end the feud.

Earlier on the night Savage & Sting beat Flair & Anderson, after the match Flair is attacked by Anderson. Sting saves him but Savage is annoyed that he did.

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Clash of the Champions XXXI Hulk Hogan vs Randy Savage ends in a no contest when they are attacked by the newly formed faction, Kevin Sullivan leads the group with the Nasty Boys and Avalanche (don't want to call them the DOD).

Sting & Ric Flair defeat Arn Anderson & Vader when Sting pins Vader, after the match Flair challenges Anderson to a match at Fall Brawl

[/b]WCW Nitro[/b] debut episode goes as it did but Flair and Sting are friends. Lex Luger debuts as he did.

This starts some problems with Hogan and Luger as it did.

[/b]Fall Brawl 1995[/b] Hulk Hogans team (Hogan, Sting, Luger & Savage) to beat Sullivan, the Nasty Boys and Avalanche. After the match the Giant enters the ring destroying Hulk Hogan and his team. Sullivan is about to cut a promo but the Giant chokeslams him aswell.

Earlier on the night Anderson best Flair with help from Brian Pillman as it happened.

Nitro build up with Hogan not trusting Luger, Savage not trusting Flair and Sting trusting both. This leads to a tag team match where Hogan & Savage face Luger & Sting for the title. The giant interferes and chokeslams Hogan allowing Luger to get the pin.

Luger feels he is the number one contender to Hogan's belt and the two square off at Havoc.

Halloween Havoc 1995 main event: Lex Luger defeats Hulk Hogan for the title when the Giant interferes, Luger is ecstatic. Hogan is very angry.

Earlier on the night Anderson and Pillman beat Flair & Sting, Sting was injured and didn't tag Flair in. Flair is annoyed and kicks Sting's leg out, Anderson and Pillman come in and Anderson gets the mic saying he just wanted to know Flair was still his old self. The three unite and do the Four Horsemen symbol. Randy Savage runs down with a chair to save Sting. Sting is stretchered off.

WCW Nitro Luger has a new found arrogance as Champion. He is asked about Stong, he says Sting is a big boy and can take care of himself. Flair declares himself the nee number one contender and they are to face for the title.

Flair wins the title in the main event, there is a huge melee involving the Horsemen, Hogan & Savage and the Giant. Flair manages to get the win.

The next week Luger is angry as hell he wants to fight Hogan. The match is announced for World War Three along with Savage, Sting & Benoit who Sting handpicked after having a match with him against Flair, Anderson and Pillman.

World War Three

Flair, Anderson & Pillman beat Sting, Savage & Benoit when Benoit turns on them joining the horsemen.

Hulk Hogan beats Lex Luger, afterwards the Giant hits the ring but this time Hogan fights him off.

Sting wins World War Three, after the Giant eliminates Hogan, (rip of RR 92 ending). Hogan then pulls the Giant and Sting throws him out. It is then down to Sting and Anderson, Sting kicks his butt and wins the match to get the title shot at Starrcade.

WCW Nitro in the weeks building up to Starrcade, Sting loses both the. Tv Title and. US Titles to Luger and The Giant as the Horsemen continue to sabotage him.

Randy Savage has Flair beat in a match but the referee won't hit the three count, turns out he's been paid off by the Horsemen. Flair beats Savage, this sets up Savage integrating himself into the title picture making Starrcade a four man match elimination as Luger has also integrated himself into the picture.

The final Nitro before Starrcade Sting fights Savage to a draw when the Horsemen beat them down.

Also on the show Hogan and the Giants feud reaches boiling point as they are held apart by security.

Starrcade 1995 Hogan and the Giant ends in a no contest when the two start using chairs etc against each other. This feud is far from over.

Main event: Sting wins the four way elimination fight to win the WCW Title, first Luger is eliminated by Savage, irate Luger beats Savage with a steel chair injuring him. Flair pins Savage and Sting beats Flair with the Scoprion death-lock.
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Interesting, main problem being Vader didn't want to work with Hogan, didn't like him, thought his wrestling style was weak, etc. The whole reason Flair returned at SuperBrawl was to take the four corners spot in the strap match in Vader's place.

Rememnber Vader had some issues before with WCW Talent. He knocked Flair's teeth out at Starrcade 93 and battered him legit until Flair legit clocked him a few times.

Re Write 1994: Flair unified the International & WCW Titles via Pinfall at Clash (largely the same with the heel turn and Sherri Swerve and Hogan making the post match save)

Hogan wins title at Bash At The Beach - Flair wins title at Clash Of Champions but not in a scew job, injured fashion, although it gave the notorious ego Hogan a face saving excuse to really milk money from the 3rd match Flair has to go over clean, not dominating, maybe Hogan injures his knee during the match and you would have the "pass out from the pain" angle, plus a Hogan re had angle going forward.

Hogan re habs fast but Flair refuses to give him a title shot, prompting Hogan to offer the His Career vs WCW Title - Flair cant pass up the chance to end Hogan and he has one win over him so the match is set for Havoc, with long time "in the know" fans unsure how it will go, Hogan hasn't been anything close to a F/T wrestler since mid 1991 at this point, and he did lose weakly to Yokozuna in his last WWE match, it's believable going forward that he could lose, maybe in a screw job like in WWE, giving him a "face saving" excuse to return at a later date. It also means WCW doesn't get rid of Flair, their biggest star, for several months, and frees us from the ridiculous Hogan brings in Savage to help get Flair re-instated angle from 1995.

Hogan wins clean at Havoc in the cage and is champ. No Beefcake attack, he wasn't near a big enough name to justify a Starrcade match vs Hogan. He easily could be given work in the company as favor to Hulk without burying the company with him in the main event. Hogan wins and celebrates in the ring, then we see on TBS the following week that Vader crushed him in a brutal post match locker room attack.

Going forward Flair/Arn Anderson team with Vader as the new super heel faction opposing Hogan & Sting. I would have the heels recruit Steve Austin to join them (is he even healthy at this point, was he on IR at the end of 94 ??). Hogan vs Vader at Starracde ends in a No Contest with a massive heels vs faces brawl, setting up a umber Jack match at Super Brawl between them, with NO DQ Rules which would favor Vader. In between at The Clash of Champions in Jan have Hogan & Sting lose a tag match to Flair & Vader to give the heels some momentum.

Hogan wins at SuperBrawl around the time Randy Savage returns....but is Savage coming in to join the heels....join Hogan....stand alone....no one will know for a while, eventually Savage joins the faces (the heel group is already pretty strong, by early 95 Steamboat was finished with injuries so the company needs another main event hero) but Savage & Sting want a shot at Hogan. A three way semi feud/semi friendship erupts with Flair continually trying to sway Sting to see who "Hogan really is" and join him in his crusade to destroy him.

Meanhwile heading into the summer of 1995 there are various match ups between the Super Heels and the three Friends/Foes/Faces to keep things interesting, including the re hash of Flair vs Savage from WWE, which is a good headliner for house shows since Hogan doesn't work them typically even though he is champ. Flair gets a couple high profile wins over Savage but loses at Great Am Bash with a Bash At The Beach Title Match on the line. Savage gets the BAB Title Match vs Hogan with the tease of turning heel, but he wont (believable since he spent half his career as a bad guy and always was obsessed with being champ). WWE never did this feud in this way, always making Savage the clear villain, a new twist on their run. Meanwhile have Austin/Arn dominating in the tag ranks and Vader fuming he isn't getting more upper card matches. With AA/Austin winning the tag straps and Flair winning the US Title around this time, have Vader disappear for a few weeks then make his return at BAB where he helps save Hogan & Savage from a post match beat down by the heels (Hogan wins match clean, both men shake hands afterwards, then heels attack).

This sets up Vader as a face, allligned with the faces against Flair's bad guys, allowing for Vader-Flair in a role reversal and Vader vs Austin, a completely new match up. Meanwhile Sting is next in line for a title shot and starts moving in that direction, causing more tension (he never does side with Flair and turn against Hogan, but he's getting mad he hasn't gotten his shot yet). This carried your upper card into the fall, setting up the Havoc PPV where Vader would face one of the heels (maybe Austin or AA) in a NO DQ Cage Match, Savage facing who ever was not facing Vader between those two and Sting would get his title match vs Hogan. Luger returns around this time (Sept 95) and plays the tweener role, siding with both Sting & Flair at different times. Id have Luger vs Flair at Havoc for the US Title with some sort of draw (probably not time limit since by now Luger isn't much for longer matches, maybe a double count-out). There can be hints that Luger didn't try as hard as he could to win the match, maybe taking it easy and accepting the draw at the finish, adding suspense to his tweener role. Hogan wins vs Sting at Havoc but with a caveat - Sting's foot is on the ropes and the pin shouldn't count, Hogan agrees to give Sting a e match at Starrcade. In the interim they remain friends.

Sting then is attacked backstage a few weeks later by several mid carders who seemingly have no real agenda against him and is injured. It's assumed that Flair's group is responsible until he is attacked by the same group and injured just before a Nitro US title match vs Luger, which Luger wins with Flair injured. It's then revealed that Luger was behind the attack all along, trying to get Sting out of the way and grab the US Title to insure his path to the Starrcade Title Match. This puts us in Title vs Title, US Champ Luger vs WCW Champ Hogan at Starrcade. Austin/AA should lose the tag titles at Starrcade also, probably in the first PPV match of a really good set of bouts vs The Steiner Bros.

Sting & Flair would be both off Starrcade to sell the injury angle. Meanwhile Vader's face turn is short lived, as Kevin Sullivan convinces him that neither Hogan or Flair will give him what he really wants, the WCW Title, and that he needs Hart's guidance to get back in the title picture, so he turns on Savage and brutalizes him, setting up matches in Nov-Dec, including at Starrcade. Vader will have a list of the names he has to destroy to get the title and Savage is the first name on the list. Vader "working through his list" would be his theme for the next few months. Savage wins at Starrcade but Vader brutalizes him afterwards.

Meanwhile AA & Austin have been having some problems leading up to Starracde with Austin feeling they are too concerned with Flair & Hogan and need to focus on their own business as well, like the old Horsemen used to do. Brian Pillman would be in Austin's ear at this time egging him to make the break. When Flair doesn't save them at Starrcade and they lose to The Steiners, it appears they will break up. Question is, will Austin be the face with Pillman in A Hollywood Blondes Reunion or will Anderson be the face ?

In the main event, Luger has bragged about his "secret plan" all along, but what is it ? It's revealed when Pillman appears and interferes to help him against Hogan, much to the crowd's surprise as it seemed Pilllman was a face trying to save his old partner. Austin however doesn't join in and walks away, Savage is too beat up post match Vader to be around, Sting is hobbled with injuries, so Luger wins the title. Jimmy Hart appears, and a new super heel faction appears to have been born, Austin re appears and this time joins them, despite Arn Anderson's pleas to the contrary, and the heels pummel Arn & Hogan until Flair appears and makes the save!

We head into 1996 with Vader's Hit List with Kevin Sullivan as his evil mentor, a new Non-Horsemen Super Heel Faction with Luger, the re united Hollywood Blondes, & Jimmy Hart (and the WCW Title), Flair & Arn on their own as tweeners, possible "frienemies" with Team Hogan, and the potential for new match ups pitting Vader/Sullivvan (who would be growing their heel group with Meng, etc) trying to grab Luger's title while he dodges Hogan, Flair, Sting, & Savage, a lot of the same names but a totally changed dynamic from the Fall of 95. Luger-Sting should be the "money match" going forward although Luger vs Vader in two monster heels, or Luger vs Flair would be potential big money too. Since The Giant debuts at this time Id have Hart & Sullivan in a bidding war, both trying to recruit him, with Hart winning initially and Sullivan winning in the end, teaming him with Vader as the unstoppable wrecking crew in WCW.
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I mean, the most obvious thing to do is re-book starrcade 1997. This would become what it should have been all along, the night the nwo was defeated. Sting dominates Hogan, nitro stays WCW, even lower card nwo guys lose. Sting is champ moving forward and the focus is on him as well as the dissolution of the nwo (no split). Then, basically never revive the thing.
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Interesting, main problem being Vader didn't want to work with Hogan, didn't like him, thought his wrestling style was weak, etc. The whole reason Flair returned at SuperBrawl was to take the four corners spot in the strap match in Vader's place.

Rememnber Vader had some issues before with WCW Talent. He knocked Flair's teeth out at Starrcade 93 and battered him legit until Flair legit clocked him a few times.

Re Write 1994: Flair unified the International & WCW Titles via Pinfall at Clash (largely the same with the heel turn and Sherri Swerve and Hogan making the post match save)

Hogan wins title at Bash At The Beach - Flair wins title at Clash Of Champions but not in a scew job, injured fashion, although it gave the notorious ego Hogan a face saving excuse to really milk money from the 3rd match Flair has to go over clean, not dominating, maybe Hogan injures his knee during the match and you would have the "pass out from the pain" angle, plus a Hogan re had angle going forward.

Hogan re habs fast but Flair refuses to give him a title shot, prompting Hogan to offer the His Career vs WCW Title - Flair cant pass up the chance to end Hogan and he has one win over him so the match is set for Havoc, with long time "in the know" fans unsure how it will go, Hogan hasn't been anything close to a F/T wrestler since mid 1991 at this point, and he did lose weakly to Yokozuna in his last WWE match, it's believable going forward that he could lose, maybe in a screw job like in WWE, giving him a "face saving" excuse to return at a later date. It also means WCW doesn't get rid of Flair, their biggest star, for several months, and frees us from the ridiculous Hogan brings in Savage to help get Flair re-instated angle from 1995.

Hogan wins clean at Havoc in the cage and is champ. No Beefcake attack, he wasn't near a big enough name to justify a Starrcade match vs Hogan. He easily could be given work in the company as favor to Hulk without burying the company with him in the main event. Hogan wins and celebrates in the ring, then we see on TBS the following week that Vader crushed him in a brutal post match locker room attack.

Going forward Flair/Arn Anderson team with Vader as the new super heel faction opposing Hogan & Sting. I would have the heels recruit Steve Austin to join them (is he even healthy at this point, was he on IR at the end of 94 ??). Hogan vs Vader at Starracde ends in a No Contest with a massive heels vs faces brawl, setting up a umber Jack match at Super Brawl between them, with NO DQ Rules which would favor Vader. In between at The Clash of Champions in Jan have Hogan & Sting lose a tag match to Flair & Vader to give the heels some momentum.

Hogan wins at SuperBrawl around the time Randy Savage returns....but is Savage coming in to join the heels....join Hogan....stand alone....no one will know for a while, eventually Savage joins the faces (the heel group is already pretty strong, by early 95 Steamboat was finished with injuries so the company needs another main event hero) but Savage & Sting want a shot at Hogan. A three way semi feud/semi friendship erupts with Flair continually trying to sway Sting to see who "Hogan really is" and join him in his crusade to destroy him.

Meanhwile heading into the summer of 1995 there are various match ups between the Super Heels and the three Friends/Foes/Faces to keep things interesting, including the re hash of Flair vs Savage from WWE, which is a good headliner for house shows since Hogan doesn't work them typically even though he is champ. Flair gets a couple high profile wins over Savage but loses at Great Am Bash with a Bash At The Beach Title Match on the line. Savage gets the BAB Title Match vs Hogan with the tease of turning heel, but he wont (believable since he spent half his career as a bad guy and always was obsessed with being champ). WWE never did this feud in this way, always making Savage the clear villain, a new twist on their run. Meanwhile have Austin/Arn dominating in the tag ranks and Vader fuming he isn't getting more upper card matches. With AA/Austin winning the tag straps and Flair winning the US Title around this time, have Vader disappear for a few weeks then make his return at BAB where he helps save Hogan & Savage from a post match beat down by the heels (Hogan wins match clean, both men shake hands afterwards, then heels attack).

This sets up Vader as a face, allligned with the faces against Flair's bad guys, allowing for Vader-Flair in a role reversal and Vader vs Austin, a completely new match up. Meanwhile Sting is next in line for a title shot and starts moving in that direction, causing more tension (he never does side with Flair and turn against Hogan, but he's getting mad he hasn't gotten his shot yet). This carried your upper card into the fall, setting up the Havoc PPV where Vader would face one of the heels (maybe Austin or AA) in a NO DQ Cage Match, Savage facing who ever was not facing Vader between those two and Sting would get his title match vs Hogan. Luger returns around this time (Sept 95) and plays the tweener role, siding with both Sting & Flair at different times. Id have Luger vs Flair at Havoc for the US Title with some sort of draw (probably not time limit since by now Luger isn't much for longer matches, maybe a double count-out). There can be hints that Luger didn't try as hard as he could to win the match, maybe taking it easy and accepting the draw at the finish, adding suspense to his tweener role. Hogan wins vs Sting at Havoc but with a caveat - Sting's foot is on the ropes and the pin shouldn't count, Hogan agrees to give Sting a e match at Starrcade. In the interim they remain friends.

Sting then is attacked backstage a few weeks later by several mid carders who seemingly have no real agenda against him and is injured. It's assumed that Flair's group is responsible until he is attacked by the same group and injured just before a Nitro US title match vs Luger, which Luger wins with Flair injured. It's then revealed that Luger was behind the attack all along, trying to get Sting out of the way and grab the US Title to insure his path to the Starrcade Title Match. This puts us in Title vs Title, US Champ Luger vs WCW Champ Hogan at Starrcade. Austin/AA should lose the tag titles at Starrcade also, probably in the first PPV match of a really good set of bouts vs The Steiner Bros.

Sting & Flair would be both off Starrcade to sell the injury angle. Meanwhile Vader's face turn is short lived, as Kevin Sullivan convinces him that neither Hogan or Flair will give him what he really wants, the WCW Title, and that he needs Hart's guidance to get back in the title picture, so he turns on Savage and brutalizes him, setting up matches in Nov-Dec, including at Starrcade. Vader will have a list of the names he has to destroy to get the title and Savage is the first name on the list. Vader "working through his list" would be his theme for the next few months. Savage wins at Starrcade but Vader brutalizes him afterwards.

Meanwhile AA & Austin have been having some problems leading up to Starracde with Austin feeling they are too concerned with Flair & Hogan and need to focus on their own business as well, like the old Horsemen used to do. Brian Pillman would be in Austin's ear at this time egging him to make the break. When Flair doesn't save them at Starrcade and they lose to The Steiners, it appears they will break up. Question is, will Austin be the face with Pillman in A Hollywood Blondes Reunion or will Anderson be the face ?

In the main event, Luger has bragged about his "secret plan" all along, but what is it ? It's revealed when Pillman appears and interferes to help him against Hogan, much to the crowd's surprise as it seemed Pilllman was a face trying to save his old partner. Austin however doesn't join in and walks away, Savage is too beat up post match Vader to be around, Sting is hobbled with injuries, so Luger wins the title. Jimmy Hart appears, and a new super heel faction appears to have been born, Austin re appears and this time joins them, despite Arn Anderson's pleas to the contrary, and the heels pummel Arn & Hogan until Flair appears and makes the save!

We head into 1996 with Vader's Hit List with Kevin Sullivan as his evil mentor, a new Non-Horsemen Super Heel Faction with Luger, the re united Hollywood Blondes, & Jimmy Hart (and the WCW Title), Flair & Arn on their own as tweeners, possible "frienemies" with Team Hogan, and the potential for new match ups pitting Vader/Sullivvan (who would be growing their heel group with Meng, etc) trying to grab Luger's title while he dodges Hogan, Flair, Sting, & Savage, a lot of the same names but a totally changed dynamic from the Fall of 95. Luger-Sting should be the "money match" going forward although Luger vs Vader in two monster heels, or Luger vs Flair would be potential big money too. Since The Giant debuts at this time Id have Hart & Sullivan in a bidding war, both trying to recruit him, with Hart winning initially and Sullivan winning in the end, teaming him with Vader as the unstoppable wrecking crew in WCW.
I like it, my only thing was I didn't want to stop Austin or Vader leaving. I was trying to book it with wrestlers leaving as they did etc. but saying that what you have done may have caused some of these wrestlers to have left.

I certainly wouldn't have wanted to hold Steve Austin back from becoming Stone Cold Steve Austin in the WWF. Vader never amounted to much in the WWF though so stopping him going might not be such a bad thing.

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I mean, the most obvious thing to do is re-book starrcade 1997. This would become what it should have been all along, the night the nwo was defeated. Sting dominates Hogan, nitro stays WCW, even lower card nwo guys lose. Sting is champ moving forward and the focus is on him as well as the dissolution of the nwo (no split). Then, basically never revive the thing.
My ideas for that would have been a full card of nWo vs WCW matches with the stipulation that which ever entity/faction gets the most wins the other must disband. I'd have had it tied at the end with Hogan and Sting been the decider. The match should have been booked with Sting dominating but towards the end Hogan gets on top. The end of the match would have had the nWo try to come in to save. Hogan but the WCW wrestlers fight them off. Hogan hits Sting with the title belt and it looks all over. He pins Sting but Sting kicks out, Hogan continues to work on Sting, slamming him. He then goes to hot the leg-drop but Sting rolls out the way. Both men fight to get to there feet, Hogan goes to hit Sting with a clothesline but misses and hits the corner. Sting then hits a stinger splash and gets the scorpion death-drop. Instead of pinning Hogan he decides to make him with with the Scorpion Death-lock. Hogan quits as Sting gets the title and celebrates with the title.

The following night on Nitro, Hogan comes out to cut a promo. He says he will keep his word and the nWo will disband. Nash and Hall come out and start to argue with Hogan, they attack him. Sting comes down in to save Hogan. Nash and Hall run off as Hogan gets to his feet Sting stands there facing him. Now its a case of whether or not Sting can trust Hogan, this goes on for a few weeks until Souled Out where Sting & Hogan team up to take on Hall and Nash. The trust issues are there but in the end Hogan comes through and he and Sting win the match. They shake hands at the end of the match.

This leads to a program of Hogan taking on Nash & Hall who have formed the wolfpac with a few other wrestlers. At Superbrawl Hogan teams with the Steiners to take on Nash, Hall and Syxx (lets say he never left). Scott Steiner turns on. Rick & Hogan joining the Wolfpac and helping them to win the match.

In the main event Sting defeats Randy Savage, who shakes Sting's hand at the end.

Hogan and Savage try to mend their differences to take down the Wolfpac but they struggle to get on.

At Uncensored Hogan takes on Kevin Nash Hall in a steel cage match, the Wolfpac enter the cage to try to take out Hogan but Savage helps Hogan and they clean house.

In the main event Sting beats DDP.

There's be more in between that but by the time we hit the Great American Bash. Hogan would defeat Nash and finally return in Red & Yellow.

Sting would also lose the title at this event to the Giant.

More would happen of course but that's all I've got right now.

Also if I could have had my way where Bret Hart is concerned he never would have left the WWF. He just never fit with WCWs image and I think we were robbed of some great moments he would have had on WWF.
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Two things (it was more but you've already alluded to not having Austin leave and eventually become Stone Cold):

• if the nWo disbanding rewrite you suggest, and subsequent Outsiders v Hogan, then WCW likely wouldn't have pulled the trigger on Goldberg

• had Bret Hart remained in WWE then the Montreal Screwjob wouldn't have happened, thus the 'accidental by-product', the creation of Mr McMahon, wouldn't have happened, and the boom period of 1998-2001 would never have happened.

Just goes to show how one seemingly innocuous decision, whether it by the booking team or the talent relations department, can have a serious ripple effect, not just on one company but on the entire industry!
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Two things (it was more but you've already alluded to not having Austin leave and eventually become Stone Cold):

• if the nWo disbanding rewrite you suggest, and subsequent Outsiders v Hogan, then WCW likely wouldn't have pulled the trigger on Goldberg

• had Bret Hart remained in WWE then the Montreal Screwjob wouldn't have happened, thus the 'accidental by-product', the creation of Mr McMahon, wouldn't have happened, and the boom period of 1998-2001 would never have happened.

Just goes to show how one seemingly innocuous decision, whether it by the booking team or the talent relations department, can have a serious ripple effect, not just on one company but on the entire industry!
Sure it can I agree

I do believe that WWE would gave risen without the screw job anyway as they were going in an edgier direction already. Vince already has his problems with Austin and its not like Montreal happened and overnight Vince became the bad guy the next night. This built up, it still could have and their feuding mostly happened post Manua 14.

There's also no reason Goldberg still couldn't have risen as he was smashing through WCW stars before he even got to the nWo. My plan would have been for Goldberg to take the title at Starrcade.
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I decided to rewrite some stuff as I felt I rushed the previous version I did and wasn't hapoy with a few things. So here goes

(Whenever I just list WCW Saturday Night or Nitro it just refers to any of the ones that fall in between the events)

1994

Bash of the Beach 1994

To happen as it did the Hogan vs Flair match was one of the greatest matches in WCW history. Its also one of the only times in those early years that Hogan was truly over with the WCW crowd. I believe it was Hogan's decisions on how to book himself that forced the fans to turn on him. Of course there were territories where Hogan would have been boo'd regardless as some of these were pro Flair.

Clash of the Champions XXVIII

Flair defeats Hogan for the title, Hogan was attacked the week before by the masked man with a lead pipe, injuring his knee. Flair exploits this during the match and Hogan tries to fight out of the figure fourb leg lock but can't. Hogan passes out from

Fall Brawl

Ric Flair defends the title against US Champion Stuning Steve Austin, he wins with the Figure Four Leg Lock.

Also on the night Sting is involved in War Games against Vader's team, Stings team loses to Vader's team. This starts to set up Vader been unstoppable.

WCW Saturday Night

Hulk Hogan returns on crutches saying he never quit and wants the title back. Ric Flair comes down to the ring saying he'll fight him anytime anywhere! Hogan says he'll put his career on the line, before they can set up when and where Flair attacks Hogan with the belt. He goes after Hogan's knee again.

The Main Event

This is the event where Dave Sullivan teamed up with Hogan, that match would be completely scrapped. Hogan and Flair are involved in a contract signing for a cage match at Halloween Havoc. Hogan is still on crutches here, he sats to Flair seen as though he is putting his career on the line he should do the same. Flair talks a big game trying to dance around it but Hogan asks him if he's afraid of losing to a man with a bum knee. Flair smiles realising Hulk's knee will still be bad at Havoc. He agrees and signs the contract, Hogan signs and sats just one more thing. Dropping his crutches to the ground, a Flair goes nuts trying to attack Hogan but Hogan gets the upper hand knocking Flair out the ring setting up Havoc.

Halloween Havoc

The Hogan/Flair match to pretty much go down as it did but no Mr T as the referee. Still have the masked man as Brutus as he can fight Hogan at the Clash.

On the same night Vader demolishes Jim Duggan and afterwards calls for the title.

WCW Saturday Night

A tournament is announced for Clash with the winner getting a shot at the title at Starrcade.

Clash of the Champions XXIX

Vader wins the tournament defeating Sting in the final, Steve Austin is the cause for Sting losing as Sting beat him in the semis to reach the final.

Hulk Hogan defeats Bruti to end the masked man storyline, after the match Vader's music hits he just watches from the ramp staring Hogan down as the show ends.

WCW Saturday Night

The Macho Man arrives in WCW, saying he will be watching the main event at Starrcade closely as he wants a shot at the World Title.

Starrcade

Vader defeats Hulk Hogan clean. Vader is unstoppable at this point claiming the title from a defeated Hogan. This sets up Hulk having to find his Eye of the Tiger moment in coming weeks.

Sting defeats Steve Austin to win the US Title.

Thus ends 1994...
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I would've put WCW on Thursday when they were losing viewers to Monday night raw
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