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View Poll Results: Biggest Draw
Sable 3 6.12%
Elizabeth 1 2.04%
Lita 3 6.12%
China 4 8.16%
Trish 28 57.14%
Other.. (Please State) 10 20.41%
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Old 01-27-2013, 03:19 PM
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I've always found Trish overrated. She didn't hit her stride as a wrestler to me until 2003. Even if I had to choose just between Trish and Lita, I would choose Lita because she was mega-over especially in 2000. Most people don't realize how over Sable was even during the Attitude Era. I just don't think the peak of Trish's popularity was ever as high as Lita's, Sable's, and even Sunny's to be quite honest.

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Old 01-27-2013, 03:23 PM
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Yeah, Trish has this. She was in more high profile angles than any female I can remember. The feud with Lita/Kane in 04, the fued with Stephanie in 01, and the fued with Christian/Jericho in 03-04. I also recall her being frequently mentioned as one of the WWE's top merchandise sellers during that time period.

Edit: Sable in '98 was more over than Trish was at her peak, but she had so little talent WWE never did much with her outside of the usual eye candy stuff. That, and the fact that the Womens division was pretty crappy during the attitude era's peak.

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Hmmmmm, let's say, none of the above. The 'diva' that drew the most money for WWE/F was the Fabulous Moolah. Which Diva ever main eventers house shows? Moolah. Yes, it was a very different time, but to debate this properly, you can't just go with the ones that you know.
Moolah was never a big draw. At the 1984 Brawl to end it All PPV the women's match was actually the main event, and was billed as Moolah's first big title defense in WWF kayfabe. The show steadily lost ratings going into the final hour prior to the WWF title match - which drew the most. The next year at the War to Settle the Score PPV the women's match and the WWF title match were billed as a double main event together. Again the women's match lost ratings and the men's match gained ratings. Same thing happened at Wrestlemania 1. All of these matches heavily featured Moolah.

Because of this women's matches were regulated down to mid tier billing.
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hmm well since you said Diva, none of those were technically Diva's they were female wrestlers that looked good, well i don't see Sable/Chyna as hot, they were all puppies and nothing else

But if we are gonna take WOmen in general as Diva's across the generations
Fabulous Moolah is technically the biggest draw of any women in history she was the face of the women's division and the NWA/WWWF/WWF womens champion 4 times between 1956 -1986 for a combined total of 10,750 her reigns being 3651, 2862, 2113, 947, 527, 380 days suck on that Punk :P.

She was also the WWF womens champ for 220 days in 1985 as The Spider Lady.

Her and Mae Young have to be the two most well known female wrestlers in WWF history more so Mae Young as the comedy sidekick.

as for Biggest Draw of all time Moolah would have to get the nod just cause of her longetivty in the main event for women.

Trish was in the biggest draw era for WWF tho so one could argue she was the biggest draw, this was a time when women's wrestling was marketed heavily and they had creative behind them and the women could handle there own both on the mic and performing in the ring but Moolah had 100 times the longevity

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Torrie Wilson said she stated she was the highest paid Diva of all time in a Playboy article but I don't know how that would translate into gross profit. That was also several years ago.
Torrie was the hottest diva for me I'd vote for her in that respect, she certainly always got the nods in the fan vote competitions including from me.
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People talk about how great Trish was she did this and she did that but if all of you haven't forgotten for such a top draw she was only in the company for 6 years and spent a reason portion of that time around a year on the shelf or not competing. Moolah did mainevent house shows PPV's and television so lets go on the argument that yes Moolah did indeed drop viewers yes but I'm guessing Trish vs Lita in the RAW mainevent probably didn't gain any viewers see where I am going with this. Moolah also held the title for about 3 times the amount of years Trish was in the WWE.

Even though she is a revolting slut and now does porn Chyna in my opinion is very underrated as a competitor. Talk about Trish once again being in high profile angles with Jericho and Christian Chyna and Jericho feuded over the IC title and she even beat Jeff Jarrett for the title as well as pinning Trish herself for title.
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wow tougher question than i thought this would be! But in reality its trish stratus. Elizabeth IMO was the first bombshell. RIP she just was beautiful inside and out and i loved her smile! But Trish was not beautiful(Damnit i wish she did a playboy shoot wish the rumors were true butthey were not) Anyway Trish brought beauty,brains, athleticism and eveything else. I miss T&A and im not talking about Test and Albert. Trish is the ultimate goal for any future diva to reach. IMO she was the divas division the best of the bunch! Trish is the benchmark still to this day!
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For ANYONE to Judge MOOLAH based on a TV rating is the epitome of crazy. As someone who watched wrestling LIVE during the Territory Days, I can tell you that MOOLAH was a draw. And she drew money.

She Popped Territories on the level of Abdullah but didn't get the same pay because she was a woman. She was used in many house shows and territories that were NOT on TV. So for anyone to think that one or two shows someone demonstrates her drawing power , has a very limited understanding of success. Her's was her staying power.

She lived in an era where she had to live in her car, change in bathrooms and drive hundreds of miles by herself. She paved the way for Trish.

I say Trish was a greater draw during the modern era of wrestling just because she had the WWE Machine. Moolah didn't. She did it the hard way. And Moolah trained many female talents of her day. Something WWE never really acknowledged.

Trish is the Greatest Diva of All Time. Moolah is the Greatest Wrestler and Draw because she wrestled longer and represented the WWE in other promotions as well as her territory work.

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I'd say the highest grossing woman in WWF/E history was Chyna. She was a 3-time I-C champion, she was part of one of the top factions in wrestling history and she was getting mainstream press coverage. However, because she usually wrestled men, some might argue that she was a "superstar", not a "diva".

Second would be Trish. She had the full weight of the WWF/E hype machine behind her even before she started wrestling. She was a total package - looks, charisma, promo ability and she learned to wrestle pretty well. I know a lot of people think Trish was just a pretty face who had to be spoon-fed in the ring, but I'm not one of them.

Lita was over with the crowd big-time and Team Xtreme were huge in the early 2000's, but her career derailed when she broke her neck in 2002. She was still popular when she returned, but it wasn't the same. She wasn't used much in 2004, she got hurt again in January 2005 and her affair with Edge turned her into a pariah for the last year-plus of her career.

Sable was HUGE in 1998, but she was gone only a year later. She burned very bright, but only for a short time.

Elizabeth was never anything but Randy Savage's arm candy. He would have drawn just as well with or without her.

Bossblood, according to the report that got leaked a few years back regarding what WWE stars got paid in 2005, Torrie Wilson was far from the highest-paid Diva. She and Stacy Keibler were both making about $180,000 a year. By comparison, Victoria made $275,000, Lita made $286,000 (less than what she should have made because she was out with a torn ACL for much of that year) and Trish made about $680,000 PLUS she got a percentage of her merchandise sales.
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People talk about how great Trish was she did this and she did that but if all of you haven't forgotten for such a top draw she was only in the company for 6 years and spent a reason portion of that time around a year on the shelf or not competing. Moolah did mainevent house shows PPV's and television so lets go on the argument that yes Moolah did indeed drop viewers yes but I'm guessing Trish vs Lita in the RAW mainevent probably didn't gain any viewers see where I am going with this. Moolah also held the title for about 3 times the amount of years Trish was in the WWE.

Even though she is a revolting slut and now does porn Chyna in my opinion is very underrated as a competitor. Talk about Trish once again being in high profile angles with Jericho and Christian Chyna and Jericho feuded over the IC title and she even beat Jeff Jarrett for the title as well as pinning Trish herself for title.
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Name one other women that was at the top in the title hunt for 5yrs straight other then Moolah and in a time when women's wrestling had some amazing talent . the rest of your statement i agree with but Trish did an amazing job for her size and was the best of the best post 80's WWF had to offer IMO.

But my pick is still Moolah tho as i said none of those are Diva's, they are fighting Women and Elizabeth was never a Diva, she was a lady..
 


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