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Old 01-02-2013, 01:46 AM
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Since Paul Heyman's return to WWE we have seen him managing both Brock Lesnar and CM Punk, but which one do you prefer him managing?

There is no denying that Paul Heyman is magnificent on the Microphone with both Superstars.

I prefer Heyman with Brock, i just think they gel really well together, and obviously Heyman does 95% of the talking for him.It's more 50/50 with Punk. Heyman seems a lot more natural when he is alongside Brock Lesnar in my opinion.

Although i really enjoy watching the Heyman/Punk segments, sometimes i think Paul Heyman is forcing it a bit. Obviously CM Punk has a totally different Heel Persona to Lesnar, Punk is probably classed as the cowardly heel while Brock is the Monster Heel. It must be difficult for Heyman to adjust to the different styles, but he does a great job.

Also what do you think will happen when Brock returns? Will it be the 3 of them with Brock breaking peoples arms for Punk?, or will we see Heyman turn on one of them?

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Old 01-02-2013, 02:00 AM
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He definitely fits better with Brock. It's the perfect pairing, the guy with one of the best in ring packages in the business with the size, skill, athleticism but can't talk to save himself paired with one of the best talkers in the business who can't do anything to back his words up. It works fantastically, as you would expect and Heyman is so good that he can carry Brock's part in angles while Brock just sits at home watching.

I think however that Heyman's work with Punk doesn't get the credit it deserves. A lot of people say Punk doesn't need Heyman, why are they together blah blah blah. Punk is fantastic on the stick no doubt, but Punk was so incredibly over before this turn that it was a really big ask to get him over as a heel again. There's no question that he can get a heel persona over, the Straight Edge Punk was killing it, but after the Best in the World run, people loved Punk they didn't want to hate him and it was evident when they turned him heel, people were still cheering him. Enter Paul Heyman. There's still a lot of people who love Punk (count me as one of them) but he has increasingly got more of a heel response and I put a lot of that down not to people hating Punk but people hating Heyman.

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I think Heyman's a really nice complement to this version of heel Punk. The Horsemen never needed James J. Dillon -- if there was anything Ric, Arn, and Tully could do, it was cut great promos -- yet he was an integral part of that team; he reflected the atmosphere and the attitude of that stable, Similarly, he provides a confidante for Punk in backstage promos and a cohort in crime. And Heyman's lording the title belt around constantly is a great way to reinforce Punk's persona as the proud yet insecure heel champion. It's been a very good partnership.

I'd care about Heyman with Lesnar if I cared about Lesnar. Frankly, his appearances are so rare and his direction so muddled -- why, for instance, did he not want to rip Cena's head from his shoulders after his loss at Extreme Rules? Whjy did he leave WWE because he had nothing else to do when that loss was still fresh in his column? -- that I can't see the Lesnar-Heyman partnership as very fruitful. Though Heyman's promo with Stephenie and HHH ranks as my favorite promo of last year.

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I think Heyman obviously does the best he can in both roles but, because he's more limited with Punk (although, Brock's kind of better at talking for himself now after 10 years of media inside and outside of WWE. Not a lot better but, I expect him to talk a little more than when he first entered the company.)

However, I see this trio as a sort of Paul Bearer/Undertaker & Kane thing. He'll just flip back and forth, he'll betray one depending on who they need as a heel at the time and then do whatever the geniuses at creative think needs to happen to balance everything out and finish off the stories.

I think if Punk becomes WWE champion after WrestleMania or wins against the Rock then Brock and Heyman will turn on him and get Brock the title. Punk as a face against Brock could draw pretty well to be fair. Hopefully, there will be a PPV in one of their hometowns or a big wrestling city next year to get the big fight feel.

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I prefer Paul Heyman managing Brock over Punk. It seems like Heyman is too much in character with Punk whereas he has more freedom to be aggressive and what not when he is managing Lesnar. It's not difficult for Heyman to manage either Punk or Lesnar but there is more freedom when it comes to managing Lesnar partly because Lesnar can't talk for himself. I hope that when Brock returns that the 3 dont unite. It'd be more entertaining to see Heyman turn on Punk (making him a face) setting up a feud with Brock w/ Heyman. And who comes in Punk's corner? Triple H. So Punk w/ HHH vs Lesnar w/ Heyman.

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I think Heyman & Punk compliment each other extremely well in terms of an overall give-take relationship between wrestler & manager. Heyman is a great mouthpiece even though CM Punk doesn't need a mouthpiece. They have a natural chemistry with each other that flows smoothly.

Brock Lesnar is the one that needs Heyman as far as having someone to talk for him goes. In the past, managers have been there to cut promos on behalf of guys that just aren't any good at it. Brock Lesnar fits that bill. He can cut brief promos just fine, like we saw in the sort of "sit down" interview/vignette of Lesnar after he first returned. Anything longer than that just doesn't work. Lesnar doesn't have the personality or skills.

I find Punk & Heyman together as more entertaining than Heyman & Lesnar mostly because Punk is an all around better wrestler. He's got the in-ring ability plus the charisma to truly be a main event heel with or without Heyman. Heyman being with Punk just makes Punk that much more fun.

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I think Heyman's work with both guys has been of a very high standard. With Brock, he obviously has a more important role...both due to Lesnar's limited schedule and limitations on the mic.

The seeds are already planted for a Heyman swerve with Punk, showing Heyman to being the one behind the shield and Maddox helping Punk keep the title...pretty sure that'll come up whenever Lesnar does come back...so the only way I really see these 3 guys being involved together is in a lesnar/punk feud. Perhaps even stemming from Maddox letting it slip that he was in cahoots with Heyman, Punk confronts Heyman, Brock makes the save. Wrestlemania booked.

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I feel that Heyman is a better service to Lesnar, but a better compliment to Punk. Allow me to explain...

As some of you mentioned earlier, Lesnar is a guy who has the in ring ability, size, etc. However he is not all that great on the mic. Yes he is able to hold is own and cut some short promos, but as far as a long promo is concern, I just couldn't even see Lesnar pulling one off successfully. The service that Heyman gave to Lesnar in the form of essentially being his voice, gave Lesnar that last piece he really needed to be able to be what Brock Lesnar was/is in WWE. Brock, being the size he is and the dominance that he tries to display in the ring is similar to that of WWE's monster heels. Usually, those heels don't have any kind of voice (Most recent example: Tensai). They show up, beat the crap out of some folks then they wind up fading, I think largely due to the fact that they don't do anything but squish random jobbers. Once they lose, they fade into nothingness. This makes Heyman the perfect service for Brock as it gives him that missing component that the other monster heels just don't have.

Punk, I don't think really needs Heyman. The first time I saw the two of them I was skeptical. Now though, I think it has worked out really well. The interactions between Punk and Heyman are far better than they are between Heyman and Lesnar as the two seem to be more friends than the distinct manager/wrestler bond that Lesnar and Heyman had. Punk was more than able to cut his own promos, but with Heyman alongside him, they are that much better. Again, I don't think Punk needs Heyman to be successful, but it has worked brilliantly cause of how good a compliment that Heyman is to Punk.

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He seems to fit better with punk than he did with Lesnar. Punk doesnt need Heyman to talk for him punk can do that just fine. There chemistry seems to flow a little bit better with each other than heyman did with Brock.

I guess its their give and take with each other that makes it more appealing. Brock needed heyman to talk for him poor brock lacked the skills and personality behind the stick. Few words here and there brock did fine anything longer than that,ehh not so much.

But Heyman is a better fit with Punk than Lesnar IMO

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I preferred Heyman with Brock Lesnar, I'll probably get done for spamming for this comment, but as regards his relationship with CM Punk, it comes to something when the Manager has better mic skills than the guy he's managing IMO.

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