WWE TLC 2012 General Discussion & Review

[asiatic7]

This thread is directed at everyone on this site who live in or around Brooklyn (the NYC area). If you are one of those crazy fans who travel long distances to attend WWE shows, It's directed at you too so, if none of this applies....let it fly.

We (Brooklyn) just recently got a brand new arena (Barclay's Center) that opened with Jay-Z performing on Sept 28th. But later for Jay, (I'm a Dead Prez, Immortal Technique, Sean Price guy anyway...) This thread is about TLC being the first WWE show in Brooklyn.

I always attend the WWE shows in Manhattan at MSG, which is a borough and a train ride away (parking sucks in Manhattan). I'm pretty excited about Barclay's hosting the TLC PPV in my hometown and was wondering if anyone else was as pumped as I.

If you're a New Yorker (or from out of town and plan on attending TLC) and you feel the same sentiments, feel free to express yourself.

P.s. Mr. Moderator, I hope this is the correct forum. It is about a PPV even though it didn't happen yet....

[ITALIAN NYC]

I have not been there yet so I do not know how it looks on the inside. I am sure its beautiful. I get annoyed when people think JAY Z owns the nets, when he barely owns 1 percent of the team lol. Anyways, the good thing about the Garden is that no matter where you sit, you have a great view of everything and it does not feel that far away. I am curious how the set up of the barkley center would be for a WWE show.

[IvoryHHH]

i live in NJ & I am unsure if I will attend this PPV. I go to all the shows in the NJ/NY area and even fly out to other states for PPV's as well. I honestly do not like NYC & Brooklyn really isn't the best area in NY, so I'm weighing my options. I'm kinda excited but not too overly excited at the same time...does that make sense?

[ITALIAN NYC]

Originally Posted by IvoryHHH

i live in NJ & I am unsure if I will attend this PPV. I go to all the shows in the NJ/NY area and even fly out to other states for PPV's as well. I honestly do not like NYC & Brooklyn really isn't the best area in NY, so I'm weighing my options. I'm kinda excited but not too overly excited at the same time...does that make sense?

Yankee Stadium is in a crap area also. That does not stop people. If you plan on taking the train in, I am sure it would be filled with enough people going to the show for you not to be that concerned. Alot of areas of BK are crap, but there are also alot of areas that are good. Same as it is everywhere. Barclay Center is not in the best area, but again you'll be fine lol.

[CrazyChicksDigger]

I am happy to see something else in NYC getting a show, because I am tired of hearing announcers inserting the words "Madison Square Garden" in every other sentence. If that's one less show per year that I have to hear that "Santino used the Cobra on Heath Slater in Madison Square Garden!!!!" then that's a good thing. Sorry if that's sacrilegious, but I don't enjoy listening to the masturbatory reverence given to MSG

[Jack-Hammer]

There are reports going around that some WWE officials would like to see a match between CM Punk and Mick Foley take place at the TLC pay-per-view in December. The promo segment between Punk and Foley on last week's Raw got rave reviews and there's no doubt that the two have great chemistry.

Since Mick Foley returned to the WWE earlier this year, I think it's safe to assume that most everyone has expected Foley to return to the ring on rare ocassions. At the same time, with Jerry Lawler's recent heart attack after wrestling in a tag team match on Raw, I have to admit that I have some reservations about this idea, if it does indeed come to pass. While I know that just because Lawler suffered a heart attack by no means is an indicator that something would happen to Mick Foley but we all know that Foley has had the crap beaten out of him during his career. Mick Foley's bumps and the injuries that've resulted from his career have literally become the stuff of wrestling lore. Foley is now well into his 40s and while I'm sure that his spirit would be willing, I wonder about the flesh.

The last time we saw Foley in the ring was in a street fight in TNA against Ric Flair in which both men left the ring a bloody and beaten mess. The match was generally received favorably but, again, there was concern because of the condition of the two men. As I said, Foley's body is just racked with injury and Flair is literally an old man that's got issues of his own.

If John Cena does compete at HIAC, I believe he'll take a more extended period of time off afterward. WWE could possibly step things up and do a feud between Punk & Ryback. But, in spite of my own reluctance to see Foley compete, I have a feeling that he & Punk would put on a damn good match at TLC if the match was a some sort of anything goes gimmick match. Punk has the ability to carry Foley and we know that Foley can tell a story and excels in such an environment.

So how about it? Is Punk vs. Foley something that you'd like to see take place or is Foley's physical condition something that you're just not so sure about?

[bittermang]

I'd watch a two out of three falls table match with those two, just to be guaranteed more table match after the first break.

But I too wonder if Mick can still go, in a tables match. His has been a long, and frankly at times intervention deserving, road of hardcore. The sell of the icon in a tables match vs. the Champ is a good draw, but I'd hate for them to not realize the full potential of the idea as it stands on paper, double so if they manage to stink up the joint.

I don't have a lot of confidence, given his last few matches I can recall. But I also have a feeling that Mick is the kind of guy who can rise to the demand that occasion calls for. He's not as good as he once was, we can all agree. But he could potentially be as good once as he ever was in the right match. As it were.

The downside is, we know Mick likely won't become a 4 time WWE champ at this stage in his career, given how he's been positioned and his ring worn physical state, so you have to build the story around the fight. Given their respect lines currently, they could easily do just that.

[Macho Machismo]

If Foley can still go in the ring and wants to do the match then hell yeah I would love to see Punk vs. Foley. I'm not gonna be one of those guys that says whether he should get back in the ring or not and act like he knows whether he could still go or not cause nobody truly knows Foley's condition but himself and it's Foley choice what he wants to do, either way I would respect his decision, but if Foley agrees to do a match with Punk, I think this match would be more suited for Hell In A Cell than TLC. If Cena can't go for HIAC, Foley is a logical replacement considering his history with Hell in a Cell. They don't need to use Ryback, he's not ready for a main event feud, let alone a feud against the champ, they should be building him up right now in a mid-card feud with The Miz as originally planned, not using him as filler for Cena when Foley as a replacement makes tons more sense. Actually they don't need to wait on Cena to see if he can make it for HIAC, it's not like he really needs to face Punk at the PPV, they could give Cena his break now and save their match for TLC instead, TLC is a more brutal PPV/match than Hell in a Cell these days anyway, so they could just officially take Cena out now and put Foley in if he wants to. But I don't mind if Foley/Punk happens at TLC either.

[Mitch H. Winnfield]

Punk VS Foley sounds like a good feud on paper. Both men are more than capable of delivering stellar promos, and Foley is still a fan favorite, so a feud with Foley will only bring more heat to Punk's character. Plus, Mick Foley will give Punk a big time feud with a good amount anticipation. Foley could fill Punk's void for a big name opponent, if John Cena plans on taking time off.

It's sounds like a good idea, and TLC would be the perfect stage for a main event brawl, but Foley's health is a huge question mark. The man's body has been through hell, and all of those savage beatings have long-lasting effects. I would like to see the match, but Foley's health raises some serious doubts.

[kcoe24]

I don't think Foley is in shape to go in a match like that. I could be wrong and if i am then sure i would love for Foley and Punk to have a match but I just can't see Foley going in a match like that or any kind.