Is it the right time to bring a new stable together and what would the name be?

[slimmshady]

I mean, it's been a while since a dominating stable entered the ring. The last one was evolution. Now I think it is the right time to bring a new one together and push the younger talent amongst the elderly. Like how Triple H and Ric Flair brought up Batista and Randy Orton. It must be a heel stable as they have been the most successful and it's definitely got to be more than just two individuals in it. My question is who would be in the stable and what would the name be?

[Derf]

La Familia. We've already got a powerful stable on Smackdown/ECW. Edge is the main guy, Chavo is the up and comer, Bam is the powerhouse, and Ryder/Hawkings are the weasles, and I can see one of them becoming World Champ some day with the right singles push. Plus, they also have Vickie Guerrero, and she's a powerhouse as the GM, so I think the Faction your looking for already exists.

[IrishEnglishman24]

If it hadn't been for Regal's suspension, I think we'd have all the makings of a stable on RAW with the likes of Burchill and Katie teaming with regal and someone else, maybe the likes of either the Highlanders or Drew McIntyre & DH Smith (ok, I know, he's canadian, but daddy wasn't) to have a British thing going and call it the Empire or something like that. But I don't see it happening with Regal losing the GM slot and being suspended

[IC25]

Excellent thread idea. Here's what I would do.

1. The stable should be heel, since heel stables work best together, and face stables only work if there is a heel stable to balance them out.

2. The ultimate prototype for a heel stable is, of course, The Four Horsemen. Evolution copied the 4HM dynamic to a T, which is as follows:

a. The Cornerstone. (Flair, HHH)
b. The Backup (Tully, Orton)
c. The Muscle (Arn, Batista)
d. The Wild Card (Ole, Flair)
e. The Mouthpeice (Dillon, Flair)

The other dynamic on a successful stable is their differing places on the roster to start. It's silly for three main eventers to form a stable, because of the conflict. So there is a 2nd dynamic:

a. The Main Event (Flair, HHH)
b. The Mid-Carder (Tully, Orton)
c. The Tag-Team (Arn and Ole, Flair and Batista)
d. The Manager (Dillion, Flair)

Raw Stable - The New Generation

1. Randy Orton. Established heel champion, has shown leadership qualities but has never really "led" a team before. Similar to HHH, a guy who would do anything to keep his spot.

2. MVP. A fantastic mid-carder with talent on the microphone. Would play the Tully Blanchard role.

3. The Miz and John Morrison w/ Kozlov. Here is your young, brash tag team who also act as the dual assassins with new bodyguard, Vladimir Kozlov, who plays the muscle role.

4. Eric Bichoff. Bring him back to manage the stable and play the Dillon role, also reprising his nWo role. Estrada is too busy and doesn't fit the mold well.

[mcflyboy]

I have mixed feelings about stables. At least heel stables. First, once a stable is created, the top guy in the stable suddenly loses a lot of skill and no longer has the ability to beat top talent on his own, and has to rely on the flunkies to save the day by interfering. Typical with the way the matches go, it is hinted that the heel would have lost had it not been for the stable.

Similarly, matches become too predictable--especially when a belt is on the line. The heel starts by getting dominated, someone causes a distraction, allowing the heel to dominate for a while, then the face makes a comeback. Then rapid back and forth action and before the heel loses, we get some sort of interference.

On the other hand, stables are good in some ways...it becomes easier to hate whoever is the top dog in the stable. It also makes an eventual win over the heel more dramatic. You also inevitably get to the point where various members of a stable eventually turn on each other in some way, which creates an interesting feud and instant face status for someone.

So in general, I would say no stables, or at least no more than 1, mainly because they all follow the same general format and storyline. We have "la familia" for now, and I don't think we really need any more, and am actually looking forward to that one ending.

[D.N.D]

The dominating stables are usually heel so if a new stable was to come about I think it would be a new Corporation.

1. Randy Orton (leader) I think Randy could lay the role as the dominant heel champion who always has team do the dirty work for him.

2.Mr.Kennedy (mid carder) He could play the role that Orton use to lay back when he was in Evolution. He could hold the Intercontinental title and help Orton retain his title. He would be the young guy who is thefuture of the buisness.

3.Chris Harris (Enforcer) I think he would be able to play the muscle of the group and they could make it seem like he is a dominant beast like with Batista.

4.Eric Bishoff- I think they should bring him back so he could play the same role Vince did back when he was in the Corporation always trying to find a reason for Randy to retain his title.

5.Paul Birchill & Drew Mcintyre (Tag Team) They could become a tag team because they are both British and thet would have a friendship with Eric Bishoff and that would get them in the group. They could have Katie Lea as the manager.

That would be the RAW stable. Smackdown already has the La Familia which I hope ends soon.

[Gelgarin]

The problem I always have with stables involving lower card members is that the WWE has a serious tendency to job them out on mass to whoever the top face at the time is. (Like how Ryder & Hawkings keep getting totally owned by the Undertaker) And since promoting new talent is one of the chief functions of a stable, I question it as a valid tool in today’s booking environment. (Let’s be honest here; right now La Familia is only getting Edge and Vickie over).

Conversely, stables consisting of multiple main eventers which aren’t the NOW tent to always come off as looking a bit week. You’ve got a collection of heels who’ve been doing perfectly well for themselves, and suddenly have to band together to protect one another from John Cena. One theme which has been very prevalent in the WWE as of late is that they don’t want heels running the show; and any coalition of main eventers runs a serious risk of actually making the members involved look weaker than they would have done flying solo.

The other reason factions get established of course is when you have an overflow of talent. Right now WWE does not have an overflow of talent, and in my eyes is rather struggling to find much that is new and interesting to show us (which is why concepts such as “Incest, what a good idea” come around). The last thing we need is some bloated coalition of main event talent, further limiting the number of prospective feuds available and leading to more and more TV and PPV space being given over to tag team matches featuring guys who suck at it. (The state of tag wrestling is my biggest despair right now)

What I would like to see would be a united, cross brand, heel coalition. It always seems stupid to have a pair of main eventers who are chasing the same goal working together, but to have a trio of mid carders from the three brands, (MVP, Shelton & ... err Y2J… but not Y2J, move someone less established over to RAW) for example, start appearing together to further one another’s interest on their respective shows. That’s an idea that I really think could work, and could help to push a respectable number of stars without falling victim to the traditional WWE issue of 'pushing the top guys and jobbing out everyone else' (otherwise known as WCW/ECW Invasion Syndrome).

Reading back, I’ve got to mention that I actually LIKE the idea of a main event faction; they’re novel and interesting; I just don’t think that at this moment the WWE has the talent, on or off the stage, to book such an idea successfully.

[John87]

ok so Gelgarin. i cant top you. lol. you are extremely right. but, id really like to see a new DX/Nation thing. i mean, given that the only heel in the company right now is Mark Henry, maybe henry can lead them and let Ron Simmons not go back and keep his DAMN going on (because lets face it, he cant be a heel again. hes too funny) like say, instead of HBK going back, maybe let Triple H bring up new stars and Henry do the same. maybe, after HBK retires, because i know that Triple H will still be there in the long run. then it could make sense. i mean, new stars in a new nation/dx thing would be great and triple h and henry could be like, mentors but still wrestle?

New Generation DX:
1. Triple H (top dog)
2. CM Punk to take Pac's place (mid-card)
3. Michelle McCool or Mickie James as the chick (womens champ)
4. Cody Rhodes and Colin Delaney as the tag team (tag champs)

New Generation Nation Of Domination
1. Mark Henry (top dog)
2. Shelton Benjamin or MVP or even both (mid carder, although MVP seems like a top dog)
3. Layla as maybe to even up with DX (womens champ)
4. Crime Tyme. simply because RAW has done nothing with them yet. (tag team champs)

I know this looks stupid but its still an idea. i mean, what the hell has WWE actually done good lately? besides the black out, the walk out and the title ablaze? tell me what you all think. is it changeable? yes, no maybe so?

[slimmshady]

You could call La Familia a stable but truth be told its not a proper stable if you know what I mean. Compare it to DX, Evolution, NWO and the four horsemen and you get only one decent wrestler and that is Edge. But even he is becoming too predictable as every time he faces the undertaker, either the edgeheads interfere or vicky does something to cause the undertaker to lose the title again. Personally, I wouldn't call this a true stable as decent stables tend not to rely on the help of their gm. Mind you the undertaker has had only one proper stable and that was with kane. Also there needs to be some new stables, not resurrecting DX and adding a few new members because that would ruin the reputation of the old DX. Fare enough if they bring DX together again, but only the wrestlers that normally belonged to the stable should only be able to join. I mean can you imagine what it would be like if another member decides to join the brothers of destruction, say someone like big show. It just doesn't work out unless it is a brand new, unique stable.

[AnthonyMango/NoFate007]

Stables seem to be primarily used to get over the midcard and tag team talent whilst pushing the leader into a secure main event slot.

Thusly, I don't think we really have too many choices for a big stable. Too many wrestlers that are going to be pushed to the main event soon don't have the character personality that would warrant having a group of close friends. Guys like MVP, Cena, Orton, Kennedy...would they really have a successful stable? I doubt it.

Because of that, and how we've seen Corporation 100x over, I think instead of having a giant stable, we could have some mini-stables that help get over some talent but not by overshadowing the rest of the rosters.

For instance, once La Familia is over with, we'll have Edge + Ryder + Hawkins. Edge is already a main event talent and once they stop booking Ryder/Hawkins to look like jobbers, they could be a solid tag team much along the lines of Edge/Christian. I once heard the term "Rated R-my" which I really liked, but "Rated R-Entourage" is still ok.

Other possibilities:

Morrison (Main Event) + The Miz + Kenny Dykstra, and maybe someone for muscle. You could tag team two of the 3 outside of Morrison and use the other one for a midcard title chase. To keep with the whole "there are winners and there are losers", the "palace of wisdom", all that such, just call them The In Crowd and continue that gimmick.

Regal + Burchill + Katie Lea. Regal for main event, Burchill for midcard, Katie for the women's title obviously.

D.H. Smith + T.J. Wilson + Natalya Neidhart Again, not much of a stable per say, but if they brought Wilson up, he and Smith could be a solid tag team and Natalya could go for the women's title. Naturally, if Teddy Hart wasn't such an idiot, this could reform the Hart Foundation, but that probably won't be happening.

Hell, if you really wanted to start making some stables to get over the tag team division whilst keeping the stars as jobbers and such, why not have an ECW stable? Tommy Dreamer, Stevie Richards, Nunzio, uh...I don't know, who cares? Lol.


Anyway, my point is, I don't think having a giant stable running the WWE is the right thing to do right now as most of the guys that we/they want in the main event are already on their own receiving those pushes. Just for fun, though, they should have some mini-stables and tag teams to help bring some unity.