Why are certain talent still employed?

[The Mark of Zur-En-Arrh]

I've always wondered why the WWE has kept certain talent employed for so long while dropping other up and coming talent for no reason.

I recently read a post by Vito where he stated that he did everything that Creative asked of him like wearing a dress all the time, and they suddenly released him with no warning or decent explanation.

So why are we still watching Hardcore Holly and Mark Henry on WWE TV? These two superstars for example have been injured more times than a bunch of other guys put together, Henry himself also caused a bunch of injuries in 2006, and these two haven't had a decent angle since the 90's! So why are they still on WWE TV when plenty of better talent have come and gone instead? And why is nothing ever done with these guys? Do you have any idea what could be done with them? Your thoughts?

[I_Like_All_Wrestling]

Hardcore Holly I could see, as a basics teacher for younger guys. While it sucks that Vito was released, I didn't see much that he had to offer.

He's a list of mine:

Mark Henry: is terrible and serves no purpose really. He's just another big guy, but 1 or 2 are enough.
Jim Duggan: I personally think you see him too much for his role, nostalgia is fine but I always thought he was retarded, in the literal sense of he was a poorly mentally developed individual, now that hes 50 something it looks worse
Charlie Haas: I think Haas is a great wrestler, but without being in a tag team with Benjmin he's stale, I don't think he'll ever be over on his talent alone
Snitsky: not entertaining at all, I'll change the channel
Deuce and Domino: generic tag team with nothing to offer
Jesse and Festus: stupid tag team gimmick, the new godwins, I hate Jesse's look but I think he's got something to him
Hornswoggle: a joke as a wrestler, I get that big heels beat him up to make them more of a heel, but some on
Chuck Palumbo: juts a big guy, no charisma, brings nothing to the table
Kenny Dykstra: some people are high on him, but I find him completely boring with a generic style, look and personality
Mike Knox: really what does he offer, he's just another big body
Big Daddy V: I don't see any upside to him whatsoever, and I never have
The Boogeyman: I don't think he brings anything, maybe if you want to keep him for a kid factor
Colin Delaney: really?
ECW: is dead. I like that the originals have a job (esp Dreamer), but I don't think they need Richards, Nunzio, Balls or Dreamer

A lot of people would say Khali, but I see their point from a business standpoint, he's a draw to the huge Indian market. And at least he's not a big fat giant.

I also personally hate the Miz. I know he's there because of his Real World/Road Rules affiliation and for some reason women think he's attractive, but I don't think he brings anything and if he left there would be no problem. I don't hate the guy in a heel manner, I hate the guy as in I change the channel and am done with the show due to disinterest.

[The Mark of Zur-En-Arrh]

LOL, you dislike all the guys i dislike. 2 points coming from yours I_Like_All_Wrestling.

1. I personally think that Festus has potential, his match with Taker the other week wasn't terrible. However, i've seen nothing about Jesse that impresses me. It's always Festus getting the win in their matches and i haven't seen Jesse in a singles match. IMO he's only good for getting Festus' gimmick over really. Would b much better as Festus' manager than his tag partner.
2. Big Daddy V is a shame because he's one of the few KOTR winners that DIDN'T get the guaranteed push that KOTR winners get. He, Mr. Ass and Ken Shamrock got nothing for winning, but it marked the beginning of Bret Hart, HHH, Austin, Lesnar, Booker T, Kurt Angle and Edge's rise to the top of the food chain.
3. Totally forgot about Palumbo (which isn't surprising bcoz i've never liked him). This guy is even more of an anomally bcoz he doesn't keep get injured and coming back, or sent to Development, he actually gets RELEASED and re-hired. Why, for the love of God why?

[IrishEnglishman24]

Jesse's actually not bad. because Festus is the power wrestler out of the two, though Jesse's probably the better in the ring.

as for Billy Gunn's KOTR push, he was in a programme with the rock and it was dropped because he was genuinely awful.

as for the other talent mentioned, they're there because no company can survive with just the top names, it needs jobbers and filler, otherwise you have guys who are good with nothing to compare them too.
other guys are there because they're loyal. mark henry being the prime example. He's good as a big guy and has been there a while

[PsxMeUP]

I agree with Polley:wanna_cracker.

You can't just get rid of guys you don't feel any attachment to. Paul Dysktra is a young wrestler. Reminds me of Orton a bit. Snitzky and Mark Henry are upper-card jobbers. Who's gonna make The Undertaker look good, Jamie Noble? Once the Festus gimmick gets old both might fade away or Jessey could turn into an Owen Heart type character. Mike Knox is a good technical wrestler, for his size. You rarely see guys that big doing that many suplexes. Hardcore Holly can turn into a major heel (which might happen soon) with the right story. But I agree with some of the older guys. Get rid of the following:

Funaki
Val Venis
Hacksaw Jim Duggan
Nunzio
Stevie Richards

Every time I see them I'm surprised they're still around.

Most of them are just used to job to midcarders. When was the last time Mark Henry, Snitsky, Hacksaw, Great Khali, or Big Daddy V beat anyone other then some no-name jobber? Like polley said, some are just very loyal to the company so they still have a job (Henry, Holly) while others are to put over Midcarders.

[IrishEnglishman24]

Originally Posted by PsxMeUP

I agree with Polley:wanna_cracker.

You can't just get rid of guys you don't feel any attachment to. Paul Dysktra is a young wrestler. Reminds me of Orton a bit. Snitzky and Mark Henry are upper-card jobbers. Who's gonna make The Undertaker look good, Jamie Noble? Once the Festus gimmick gets old both might fade away or Jessey could turn into an Owen Heart type character. Mike Knox is a good technical wrestler, for his size. You rarely see guys that big doing that many suplexes. Hardcore Holly can turn into a major heel (which might happen soon) with the right story. But I agree with some of the older guys. Get rid of the following:

Funaki
Val Venis
Hacksaw Jim Duggan
Nunzio
Stevie Richards

Every time I see them I'm surprised they're still around.

you just named 5 examples of the loyal ones. funaki's a road agent i think so he won't go. and he's happy as a jobber. Duggan would go before the rest go i think. but they all serve jobbing purposes...richards has made a career out of being a jobber

RKO - the big guys serve their purpose (except snitsky). simply having them as monster heels is a guaranteed storyline, and they can make the likes of Kane, Taker and Show look vulnerable. let's face it, that's a pretty hard thing to do because they're big guys in themselves. however, Khali's one of the few guys show looks a normal size beside.

[AnthonyMango/NoFate007]

As stated above, most guys do serve a purpose, albeit a lot of the time its just to job.

To keep myself from making this an extremely long post, like most of mine are, I'll just say a note that the following list is the group of guys that I really would just let go if I were in charge, as opposed to listing that plus the guys that I think could be used in different ways (like having Knox in a tag team).

So without further ado, the people I see no point in keeping anymore are as follows:


1. Hacksaw Jim Duggan - I smile when I hear "hooooooo!", but not because I ever thought he was a great wrestler or anything. He's basically just a jobber, but he can't handle himself in the ring anymore to sell things better than any other type of jobber, so he's only good for nostalgia. Guys that are only good for nostalgia, use them like they use Sergeant Slaughter, not in the ring.

2. Vickie Guerrero - Yeah, its a shame Eddie died, but as mean as it sounds, get over it. Vickie isn't good at anything she does, in my opinion, and her role could easily be filled by someone who is natural on the mic. If they really want to give her some sort of a paycheck, put it backstage somewhere like catering or something lol.

3. Balls Mahoney/Nunzio/Richards - We don't need all three jobbers. Richards is the best suited to stay, I'd say, though, so I wouldn't mind keeping him as ECW's Val Venis, in a way. Balls and Nunzio, though, they might be put to better use as road agents or trainees or something. Start jobbing out some new kids like that James Curtis guy that never gets a 1-count lol.

4. Mike Adamle - This is, of course, unless he starts improving. If he stays the way he's been, they should just 86 the guy.

[wzf2]

It's funny how val venus is still around. They should have gave up on that guy a long time ago. His career has not budged one mm for ten years. Yet he is always on the roster and some how seems to just pop up out of nowhere some times to put on a few matches for a few episodes of raw/smackdown and then just leaves. Until he pops up again.

Well, yeah there have been lots of guys who have disapeared. Nathan Jones is a good example. There was a lot of hype about him and then he was gone just as quickly as he left. Let's also not forget about heinreik. They let him go for no reason.

As for vito, I thought he was sooo funny. That whole skirt and dress thing was the best. People were going to start to get tired of that though. And it looks like that was the extent of what he could do in terms of funny level. They need to get real writers to write the shows.

[The Mark of Zur-En-Arrh]

Well Nate Jones decided to leave because he couldn't handle being on the road all the time (what did he expect?).

I can understand these guys talent for jobbing, but they could still be used in a storyline every now and again. Both HH and Henry have had world title shots in the past, and then nothing else since. When ECW was still semi-extreme Holly was actually used properly with RVD, then came back to Raw and became a nobody again. He's only a tag champ at the mo to make Rhodes look good (and i can see Carlito/Santino getting the straps soon.)

10 years ago they had Brooklyn Brawler and the Mean Street Posse a the company jobbers. That's four guys. Since then the number has multiplied and once again wwe creative is at the heart of that problem IMO.