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Do you think we will see any "Goodbye Ceremony" for any other star?
If your answer to this question is yes, post who you think will and why. I can only think of three who it could possibly happen for: The Undertaker, Shawn Michaels, and Triple H. The Undertaker - This guy has been with the WWE for so long and has constantly been a top draw. He also has that undefeated streak at WrestleMania and is one of the most decorated stars in WWE history. Shawn Michaels - HBK has given his blood, sweat, and tears for the WWE. He performs the hell out of any match he is in and took four years off only to come back and still be able to outperform most of the locker room. He is arguable the best performer in WWE history. Triple H - He is arguably the most dedicated wrestler to the business. You can clearly see that he loves wrestling and busts his ass to come back from injuries so he can perform again. He rarely takes time off and has stayed on top since late 1999/early 2000. |
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GREAT THREAD! I was thinking about this the other day.
Taker, Michaels, and HHH will, but HBK's will be the biggest. His will be the only one to rival Flairs, just out of the love affair the fans have with him. I think it runs deeper than that of Taker and HHH. Hogan and Foley ruined theirs with the "on-again, off-again" stuff. They'd have to return full-time for a few years to even think about it. I doubt Cena will, Edge is an outside possibility. Nobody is going to go for 30+ years again.
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I think those three will get one, but I can't imagine them being the same kind. Flair's had been built up for a long time as we knew his career was coming to an end months ago. The biggest problem with having another one like Flair's is while those 3 have definitely had outstanding careers and have more accalades than almost anyone, I don't think any of them will ever have the impact that Flair had. Think about this. Flair wrestled for let's say 30 years. Taker has been around in wwe longer than anybody. He would need over twelve more years to reach that point. He's just over halfway to what Flair was around for and relevant for. Flair may have dropped from the spotlight, but he always hit the big time once in awhile. There will be other sendoffs, but they won't be as grand as the one Flair had.
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No other superstar will get a send off like Flair did.
The ones that will get send offs of good proportion, will probably be only HHH and HBK. The reason I don't think the Undetaker will get one, is because his gimmick doesn fit everyone saying thank you to him and appreciating his owrk in the WWE. HHH's will be a decent sized one for the business. Probably pretty big and not that emotional. HHH will of course go out on top. HBK's will be big, bigger the Trip's even. But I don't think it will come that close to the one of Ric Flair. Though it will still be very emotional, and a big ceremony. EDIT : My 100th Post. ![]()
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I don't think so, and really hope not. It made sense for Flair since he has been around for nearly 40 years in the business. With all the talk on here of eras in pro wrestling, Ric Flair saw it all from the territories, the 80's boom, Attitude, and the current product. For all the wrestlers that performed, lived, and died in all of those eras, Flair is the only one left standing who until Wrestlemania was also still performing at a high level on a big stage such as WWE.
I have nothing against anyone else in the business or their respective contributions. However, aside from a select few, not many men have had as big an impact on the wrestling industry or the current crop of talent than Ric Flair. I have never been the biggest fan of Flair's in ring style, but I have always found him entertaining, and his longevity speaks for itself. There will never be another Ric Flair, and the wrestling send offs need to be kept to a minimum. |
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I agree with HBK, Taker and HHH. Its way to early in careers to say anyone else will.
I think HBK will have the biggest send off of all for reasons mentioned above. His will be much like Flairs...very emotional esp from HBK and it will have alot of people coming into the ring to hug him and what not. I think everyone "important" will be in the ring that has shaped his career...not sure who leads the ceremonies maybe Jericho. We have guys in ring and the llocker room emties into the entrance ramp and some song starts playing and everyone is clapping for him. Then all of a sudden HHH's music hits and the place goes nuts and all superstars in the isle part to let him get to the ring. He gets in the ring and him and Shawn stare at each other for a moment then an emotional embrace between the two occurs and the place goes nuts. The Game then cuts a promo saying how they are best buddies went up and down the road together says all what shawn is i.e. The Icon..then goes onto say that Shawn is hands down the greatest in ring performer of all time and he dares anyone to challenge that. Then goes onto say there is a few others who are here and its Shawns wife and kids they embrace in the ring music hits and everyone gives him the respect he deserves. Undertakers wont be like that i think the lockerrroom will all come out maybe a few in the ring to shake hands but i dont seeing it being this huge emotion and hug fest just cause of the Undertaker persona and image. And i havent really thought much about HHH's but he will be around the longest out of the three.
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The Undertaker - Unfortunately, he won't get one. He DEFINITELY deserves one, but he'll choose not to. Undertaker will, instead, be built around an angle where he'll "rest in peace" and just never be seen again. I'd like to have an honor for the guy, as he's done so much for the business, but I can't see it happening, sadly.
Triple H - He'll have a huge one. This is Triple H we're talking about. He's selfish enough that he'd probably threaten people into crying their eyes out and committing suicide lol. He doesn't deserve a huge one, but he deserves a little tribute. HBK - Man, does he deserve something big. I don't think it'll have as much of a feel as Flair's, due to Flair being involved in tons of different promotions for an extra few years in comparison (cause I don't see HBK lasting to 60 or whatever). However, Michaels is definitely one of the greatest wrestlers ever so he should be honored as such. The only thing I think might hurt the build of a ceremony for him would be the fact that some people still think he's arrogant and conceited. We sure as hell won't be seeing Bret Hart shaking his hands, but I'd be utterly shocked if we didn't see Hall, Nash, Waltman, and others from over the years. As for anybody else...I don't really see it happening yet. Austin, Foley, and the Rock aren't applicable as the first two aren't currently on the roster and still do guest appearances, and the Rock is out on a totally different career and not looking backwards (plus I don't think he'll have influenced enough people to warrant such a thing). Hogan, as previously stated, is too out of the game for such to happen as well. The younger guys like Cena and Edge...we'll have to see. Noteworthy...although I don't see any tributes being anywhere near the level Flair's was presented as...Jim Ross and Jerry Lawler should receive some sort of proper send-off.
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The thing that creates a huge problem is because its not like the Ric Flair farewell tribute is something that can be done every time any specific big named Superstar retires. To tell you the truth, I don't even think Triple H. would get one, simply because while hes making a solid case to be one of the elite and very best.. he still has a LONG way to go before ever eclipsing one half of what Ric Flair has done in this sport, for this sport.
I think it'd be hard pressed to even give send-offs to the Undertaker or Shawn Michaels, however I do believe if anyone else gets them, it'll be those two for the biggest reason of all being because neither guy left the W.W.F/E. during their stint. Both men made their mark in the W.W.F/E. and stayed there. Triple H. made his debut in W.C.W., and while he didn't get half of the build, he was still remotely known from there. Shawn Michaels: The problem with Shawn getting a proper send-off is because it wasn't but 10 years ago that the guy "retired" due to a "career threatening/ending" injury. Only to return 4 years later. That being said, hes only been back on (for the most part, minus I'd say about over a year collectively with new injuries) for roughly 5-6 years. (depending on taking out that rough year for new injuries.) Shawn has definately made his mark at being a Hall of Famer, and has done arguably everything in the sport from winning every Championship available to him during the initial run, to back to back Royal Rumbles, to Main Eventing multiple Wrestlemanias and winning at them. He is everything he claims to be. Icon, Show-Stopper, Main Event, everything. So because of that, I'd say he'll be the next guy to get a Ric Flair send off, if not far better of one. As far as the Undertaker goes.. the thing that hurts his credibility for a send off or farewell is depending on how they truly wanna embellish his career and character. If they want to focus on the overall character, then it'd look kinda sad to give him a retirement send off. However if they wanna focus on the man, not the character, then absolutely he'll get one. The only reason I'm not sold on Undertaker getting one is because lets face it. Ric Flair, Shawn Michaels.. they'll breakdown into mounds of tears. Can anyone truly see the Undertaker breaking down into tears because hes remembered and loved so much..
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If it was just him out of character whos to know how Mark the man would react.
But Undertaker and Tripple H are the 2 main ones i could see, Shawn is a strong case to but he has retired once before, and there was nothing, but he hasn't really added to much to his career since hes gotten back in terms of major accomplishmeant(outside of retiering Ric Flair if you want to call that one). mostly all his big memorable moments are pre first retiermeant. now hes more so a vetrean presence it seems. there for the one big moment every now and then since the company can trust him to bring it. That being said, he is more then deserving of a send off, but in all honesty no one truley deserves the kind of send off Ric got. 30 years of revoultionizing a sport in every way, and in every place. |
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yes because if you consider Shawn main eventing three of the Wrestlemanias he has been in since being back one against Cena one against Benoit and HHH and one against McMahon, and then have the match of the night at three others one against Jericho, one against Kurt and one against Flair, I guess your right Shawn has not added much to his resume after coming back from a broken freaking back and being as good as he was when he left. Then of course their are the career elevating feuds with Edge, Orton, and soon Batista. Main eventing house shows raws and countless PPV's and generally proving that though he may have been a complete dick in the past in some ways he only wants to give back the industry that made him who he is. though that is noting worthy to give him a send off. |
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