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Old 04-28-2011, 07:21 AM
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I got a huge complain.
Why in the world are the writers letting the miz have a long run with the belt? No, he is not awesome. Yes, he sucks at wrestling. And No, his mic work is not the best. I understand that the WWE doesn't want to be known as a "wrestling" company, which it all started from the complaints of the miz being the design of what a champ in the WWE should look like. The miz is nothing more but the Justin Bieber of the WWE where as nobody exactly knows the specifics of why the he is on top but the new fans of this "Entertainment" industry they now call the WWE. This is what makes me hate the WWE as to time the miz ran with the belt, so did the WWE got away with removing what once was the base of the company, wrestling and the left over fans. I don't normally watch RAW anymore on TV on Mondays, I just download the torrent and watch it on my spare time to catch up. This allows me to use my viewing rating privileged to something more worth my viewing time.

Now another thing: I hate the writers! Did I mention that? I hate how they wrote Jack Swaggers run with the WHC belt. I hate how Ziggler had a good approach to the WHC belt against Edge, then got knocked back down to the bottom of the treehouse. Now Ziggler is on RAW and what kind of potential moves can he have? He might start getting used like Zack Ryder.

My new hope now is, Sin Cara. This guy is fun to watch and has lots of history in other countries as a high flyer. I hope that Sin Cara can be used correctly and have a good feud with other high flyers but knowing the staff writers on SD, Sin Cara will probably not even make the PPV cards, if he does, might be a dark match.

By the way, if CM Punk doesn't get his vacation time (like what he means), I'm sure Punk will go to ROH and that will pretty much do it for me to quit on the WWE.
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Old 04-28-2011, 07:49 AM
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Complaint #1: MICHAEL COLE!!!!! His presence is bad enough that sometimes I don't even want to watch the show. He's getting the wrong kind of heat and to make it worse he's on both shows!!! Please WWE just fire him and move on. He's wasting valuable time in the ring with Lawler and JR of all people!!! This brings me to:

Complaint #2: Bad time management! A lot more of the shows in the last few years are horrible filler that can easily be used to either build better feuds or more in ring action.

Complaint #3: The RAW GM has been anonymous for far too long now. Please finally introduce him as someone legitimate that will be on the show, and while you're at it replace Teddy Long as well.

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Old 04-28-2011, 07:51 AM
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I got a huge complain.
Why in the world are the writers letting the miz have a long run with the belt?
Well I highly doubt that was the original plan, but thanks to all of his hard work and the fact that he's the most over heel in the WWE right now, he's earned it.

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No, he is not awesome. Yes, he sucks at wrestling. And No, his mic work is not the best.
The opinion of the few is way outnumbered by the opinions of the many. Most people who watch wrestling may hate Miz, but not enough to the point where they're turning off the TV. Miz has done an exceptional job so far and he deserves his spot on the card.

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I understand that the WWE doesn't want to be known as a "wrestling" company, which it all started from the complaints of the miz being the design of what a champ in the WWE should look like.
Wh What? Where the hell are you getting this from? Where has it been said that The Miz is the new standard of what a Champion should look like? If that's the case, why are Christian and Del Rio having a match for the WHC? Neither of them look like The Miz.

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The miz is nothing more but the Justin Bieber of the WWE where as nobody exactly knows the specifics of why the he is on top but the new fans of this "Entertainment" industry they now call the WWE.
Really? Because I have been watching wrestling for years and I understand why he is on top. It's simple, he has done his job better than anyone else and has garnered more heat than any of the other heels. But how is he relate-able to Justin Bieber? The kids hate The Miz, they want Cena to gain the world title. Your comparison is ridiculous.

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This is what makes me hate the WWE as to time the miz ran with the belt, so did the WWE got away with removing what once was the base of the company, wrestling and the left over fans.
You're joking right? The Attitude Era nor the 80's Boom were popular as a result of good wrestling, they were popular because of the characters at the main event level. They have strayed away from that a bit in the mid card, but they still do have a few compelling characters and frankly, the wrestling in the main events of PPVs now is a lot better than it was in the past.

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I don't normally watch RAW anymore on TV on Mondays, I just download the torrent and watch it on my spare time to catch up. This allows me to use my viewing rating privileged to something more worth my viewing time.
Well I ask you this, if someone is just going to illegally download their product, why the hell would they pander to what you wish to see? Apparently they are doing just fine with the business model that they're using now, why would they change it to attract fans who believe that illegally acquiring their product is acceptable? They already have an established audience and pandering to your kind will do them no favors.
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Old 04-28-2011, 08:55 AM
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Complaint One - Entrance Music

There's something really grinding about how blatantly the mythos of the competitor(s) are within the first lines of some of the songs;
Dolph Ziggler's 'I am perfection'
The Corre's 'I've had enough'* (actually, are they still using that?)
Cody Rhodes' pre-'Phantom' turn music was horrible but the remix is quite cool
That, my friend, is called the Three Second Rule, and it's an important part of every entrance music. Entrance music is a vital part of a character and should both fit the gimmick and be instantly recognizable within the first three seconds. If Stone Cold walked out to the strains of Obsession by Animotion, he wouldn't have seemed like the badass he was. Or hell, if they cut out the recognizable hook - the glass shattering - there's no way he would have been quite so over.

While I agree that the WWE isn't creative enough with their entrance music (And when they try to be creative like giving Bryan classical music, it just doesn't fly). you can't hate on them for having themes that fit the three second rule and fit characters.
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Old 04-28-2011, 09:10 AM
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That, my friend, is called the Three Second Rule, and it's an important part of every entrance music. Entrance music is a vital part of a character and should both fit the gimmick and be instantly recognizable within the first three seconds. If Stone Cold walked out to the strains of Obsession by Animotion, he wouldn't have seemed like the badass he was. Or hell, if they cut out the recognizable hook - the glass shattering - there's no way he would have been quite so over.

While I agree that the WWE isn't creative enough with their entrance music (And when they try to be creative like giving Bryan classical music, it just doesn't fly). you can't hate on them for having themes that fit the three second rule and fit characters.
Yeh I understand the hook that the rule plays, I just don't think they are as good as they used to be. As you mentioned, the shattering glass was amazing, as was Jericho's countdown clock, as was Kane's pyro, as was Rock's 'If ya smell' etc.

The difference I feel is that these examples were iconic but not as obvious as the one's currently, as they related to the performers character by insinuating what they were about.

For example, if instead of using fire shooting out of the stage and ringposts to signify the hellacious nature of Kane they had a line that was along the lines of, 'I'm from hell and angry!' it would be poor.

Mind you, Drew McIntyre's original full entrance video was fantastic so they have had some successes too.
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Old 04-28-2011, 10:07 AM
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I hate the "WWE style" of wrestling (sorry sports entertaining). I just feel like they restrict the guys movesets so much, that they make every match seem bland and generic. It just seems like every match has the same 10 basic moves and each person has 2 moves that they exclusively use.

its to the point where i literally can't watch a WWE match without getting bored and pissed off. there are literally only 2 people in all of WWE that I can actually watch their match's and thats Daniel Brian (I really like people who are very technical but manage to mix it up and be entertaining) and Sin Cara (because he's one of the only wrestlers that seems to do moves that are difficult to execute).

Another thing that pisses me off is the pg era. Im not necessarily pissed of that its pg, but more with how its executed. The humor in WWE is so fucking corny I feel like a douche even watching it. I feel like the comedic segments belong on Icarly not a wrestling program.

For example, Mark Henry and The great Khali come out for a match with the uso brothers, cole gets an email from the gm that says since the match won't even be close, that they are to have a dance contest instead. they then proceed to have a five minute dance off that completely buries the uso's and makes me embarrassed to have even be watching raw. Now some people will point out that TNA had a fist pumping contest between jay lethal and robbie E. the major difference (other than fist pumping is actually being relevent to one of the characters, while the dance contest was absolutely irrelevant to anything) is that the contest lasted literally 15 seconds and led directly into a match, while the WWE dance contest accomplished nothing but burying the uso's.
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Old 04-28-2011, 10:22 AM
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The corny humor has been part of WWE's style for years. In fact, even in the Attitude Era, there was a lot of corny humor. Just because it was "edgy" or whatever doesn't mean it wasn't corny. Mae Young giving birth to a hand is the classic example. It was done for the lulz and to be edgy, but failed at both and simply ended up being terrible.

Nowadays, I find myself laughing at a lot of the WWE's lighthearted humor. Call me immature if you want, but there's something funny to me about a jolly old fat man and a seven foot tall dude dancing. Also, Santino is the funniest guy in WWE today (outside of Michael Cole, of course) and like one report said, he really hits whatever WWE gives him out of the park.
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"It was done for the lulz and to be edgy, but failed at both and simply ended up being terrible."

I disagree I actually thought it succeeded in both of those things cuz i found that hilarious (if not funny, then pretty damn creative) and shocking because i don't think anybody called that. It may have been corny but it was still original and pretty damn entertaining.

Even if you completely hated it there's one thing no one can argue and that is that it was memorable.
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Complaint One - Entrance Music

There's something really grinding about how blatantly the mythos of the competitor(s) are within the first lines of some of the songs;
Dolph Ziggler's 'I am perfection'
The Corre's 'I've had enough'* (actually, are they still using that?)
Cody Rhodes' pre-'Phantom' turn music was horrible but the remix is quite cool

There are some others I can't quite recall now but the general genericised nature of the music of mid/under-carders is one thing I just can't stand.
Sorry man, but the entrance music for the WWE superstars is spot on and its actually one of the things the WWE are best at choosing. Have you seen the entrance music for the wrestlers in TNA? Jim Johnstone is, in my opinion, a genius.

Anyway, the WWE only has 2 real problems. The lack of women wrestlers and the lack of tag teams! Yeah, you can argue that their storylines arent original but to be fair, every single storyline there ever could be has probably been used!
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What happened to gimmicks? Gimmicks are great in prowrestling. Hell, what's worse, gimmicks or all of the corny theatrics that we see now? It seems that fighters in the UFC have more character--and they're not even suppose to. Likewise, whatever happened to that unbeatable, indestructable nemesis and that one courageous heroe who rises up to topple that nemesis? Everyone seems like a jobber nowadays.

And what's with all of the soft talk and idle threats? What happened the loud, vicious, spitting threats? What happened to good guys getting jumped and their allies running out to aid? And you're telling me that in this modern age we can't create steel chairs that's not really steel so that we can see head shots? I don't understand. Vince doesn't care about the fans anymore; we're like kids; we don't get choice for dinner; we're just suppose to eat what's on our plates.
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