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Old 01-22-2008, 11:30 PM
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In this thread discuss which type of wrestler you prefer state at least four to six (3 Heels, 3 Faces 2 heels 2 Faces) and give reason why you think they are the best of the best. they can be from this day and age or from way back when ever you like.

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Triple H: one of the most hated wrestlers in WWE history he played the sicko heel always beating on people the fans admired crushing the faces in front of the adoring fans. After he married Stephine and started the "McMahon/Helmsly" Era the fans never booed louder Triple H was at his prime heel time.

Triple H is one of the best heels to date because of the way he talks and does things when he was on the mic as a heel it used to send chills down your spine for example a lot of the promos he did while feuding with "Stone Cold Steve Austin" were real sick his catchphrases just proved of what an arse he was like "I am the Game, I am that damn good" Triple is indeed the King of Kings.

Edge: The Rated R superstar is indeed Rated R he plays the scared heel but for a while in 2004 to 2005 he played the psychotic scared heel while feuding with the likes of Kane. Edge made a real big Heel name for himself when he won the very first Money In The Bank Ladder Match at WrestleMania 21 he won by hitting Chris Benoit with a chair in his injured arm just before Benoit was about to reach the Briefcase hanging above the ring. In the present day Edge plays the scared heel hiding behind Curt Hawkins and Zach Ryder (Formally known as the Major Brothers) they dress as Edge and usually help him out of tight spots.

Edge is a great heel he'll do almost anything to get the fans to hate him and really believe his character, Cena fans despise him and even some of the more mature fans get a bit peeved at the rated R superstar as well. Edge has this thing about him that makes you want to reach through your TV and give him the biggest smashing of a life time he has the ability to start a riot and this is why he is one of my favorite superstars.

Steve Austin Steve Austin played the psychotic heel this all started at WrestleMania X7 when Austin betrayed the fans and himself by joining forces with the man he hated the most The chairmen of the board Vince McMahon. After X7 he had won the title to then go on and fued with people like the Undertaker, Austin made up a fake story about Undertakers wife Sara been in a car accident and went through great lengths the make the accident seam real Austin then confessed to Undertaker that he made up the story and thats what started the Fued.

Austin is a great heel because of the fans reaction I think a lot of peoples Jaws dropped off when Austin did what he did at X7 and some of the things he said to promote the fact he was a Heel. Austin had some of the biggest heat during a lot of his feuds while he was a heel.

Honorable Mentions: J.B.L. and Shawn Michaels

Faces.

The Rock: The Rock is an all time great in the WWE but a lot of his time wrestling he was a face. The Rock had that many face accomplishments I don't know where to begin. He fought Austin through Austins heel time, The Rock Saved Team WWF/WWE at Survivor Series from the WCW/ECW invasion. The Rock Played the all round Face everything he did was good he was funny charismatic and just down right electrifying!

The Rock is a great Face because when he came out to the ring everybody would just go mad I don't see anyone do this with the current superstars on the Roster, when I was little I even got my mum to admit the Rock was great. His pie segments and all his other Promos are amazing and his in ring ability is one of a kind there is not one time where in a match that the Rock is participating in that people are sitting down the Rock is truly the Peoples Champ.

The Undertaker: The Deadman is one of the most unique Faces in WWE history he acts like a monster heel (Dark Evil Psychotic) but is classed as a Face and He is unique because I can't put my figure on what kind of face. Undertaker has fought the best and beaten the best alot of his time as a face involved his feuds with Vince in 2003 another feud was against Triple H at Wrestlemania X7, Kane on countless occasions and many more.

Undertaker is one of the best faces of all time because of the fact he is so unique, there has never been a character like him and I don't think there will be again.

Shawn Michaels: one of the best all rounders in the WWE today. Michaels came back after he broke his back bigger and better than ever The Heart Break Kid literally broke his back for us loyal fans and only to come back as a face. Shawn Michaels feuded with the likes of Triple H Ric Flair Randy Orton and always put on the best show he possibly could. Michaels plays the "Never Back Down Never Quit" Face which John Cena has some what ruined, Michaels made a name for himself on many occasions like when he glided in from the rooftops or put Bret Hart in the Sharp Shooter.

Shawn is a great face because he truly does never quit he is true to his character he must have spent those four years in agony trying to get back in the ring. When Shawn came back everyone went mad. the show stopper has arrived.

After all this I much rather prefer the Heel character because when ever some one is given a heel character they play it better than there face.
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Old 01-23-2008, 01:22 PM
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Personally, I think the "tweener" category is much more interesting overall. They're the anti-heroes of the wrestling community as opposed to literature in itself. I'm a writer, myself, so this might end up turning into a lesson on literature, and if it does, forgive me, lol. Anyway, the appeal of the tweener or antihero is that they can successfully be both villain and hero at the same time, playing off both emotions, but they don't necessarily need to stick to one aspect of it for long enough that it gets boring. Cena's latest face run was boring the hell out of everyone because for a year straight (or even longer) he was simply "the good guy who gets kicked when he's down, but fights back against all odds, even though you knew he would win", which isn't exciting. The original DX was a perfect example of tweener royalty. Against the Hart Foundation, HBK and HHH were the top of the hero worship tower. Against Ken Shamrock at the time, they were the bottom of the rung, scum of the earth.

HBK and HHH are the masters of the tweener character, but there are others that do it extremely well, even if its with a massive amount of subtlety. First, you have the Undertaker, who, although he's clearly a solid face in the company, can successfully attack ANYBODY in the WWE and it'll still make the fans cheer without turning him heel. Stone Cold Steve Austin was a solid heel that was so over that it turned him face, equalizing into a tweener. Kane, though I feel he's better as a heel, is a tweener now. If Kennedy were to get back to the hierarchy rise that he was at around the draft of last year, he'd be a solid tweener right now instead of a heel.

Giving someone the tweener role, if they're good at it, results usually in the best of all options. Anybody who has acted will tell you that its much more fun to play the villain than the hero, because as the antagonist of the story, you're not limited by moral compasses and politically correct mapping. Superman is boring to some because he's always the boy scout, but Batman has that edge to him, and that's why he's even more popular nowadays. Conflict is what makes good storytelling, so if you have some friction, it keeps you up on your toes, whether you're the villain that has a hindered good side to them, or you're a hero with a dark side.

Overall, I feel the best route in the WWE seems to be this:
1. Start off as a babyface. The crowd cheers you simply because you're the good guy and that's who they're supposed to cheer when they don't know you.
2. This act gets boring after a while. They start disliking you.
3. Turn heel. This gives them a reaction. They're the cause, you're the effect.
4. Build up a heel reputation. You do it well enough, they'll start to like you.
5. When the time is right, turn face. Now they're in the palm of your hands.

Its working for Santino right now, isn't it? Lol
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Old 01-23-2008, 02:10 PM
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As long as guys performa well i dont care be they Heel or Face.

Tweeners are great tho i actually like them more.

I have to be honest here i think that as long as character and ability are balaced i like both heels and faces.
For instance i like Greggory Helms who is a heel but i like Shawn Micheals who is currently a face, i like Y2J who is a face but i also like Orton.

AS long as they perform well i cheer for them.
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me personally Ive always been more entertained by the Heels, partially because theirs characters IMO are more interesting but also because of usual shitty face booking, Ive always been a huge Edge and HHH fan, love Edge as a heel and always though HHH was so much better as a heel. heel characters IMO are just more versatile theres more you can do to make the crowd hate you while as a face you basically overcome the odds at all times, at least WWE style faces. my favorite wrestlers have always been heels because Ive never been a fan of John Cena and his "heart and determination" thats boring Heels are what make wrestling interesting at least IMO
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I'd prefer to watch a heel, as a character, but a face as a wrestler.

A heel in ring, slows down his moves, so them seem more powerful, and uses the headlock more to slow down the match, an example of this for me, would be Randy Orton, I'm not a huge fan of Randy Orton, but his wrestling style perfectly suits a heel wrestler.
Where as for example, you have the face wrestler, such as Jeff Hardy who will speed up his wrestling and use 'risky' moves, as this gets over with the fans.

I feel there are two people who come to mind for the best heels, and strangely, they are Triple H and HBK.
Triple H can play many 'sides' of his character, but he is at his best when he is a heel, his wrestling style suits more of a heel character, and he can also work as different 'heels', for example, a funnier heel, when he was with Stephanie in early 2000, and he can work as a serious heel, which many people fail at and become boring with.
HBK should in my opinion, always be a heel, much like I said with Triple H, he plays the 'funny heel' far better than anyone else, it has to be said.
I'd also like to mention the Undertaker in there too.

As for faces, I haven't always been a huge fan of the big faces such as The Rock, or Stone Cold, I know they are good at being 'face', the crowd really responded to them, but like I said, I have never been a big fan or the 'face wrestler'.
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Im half and half i love watching heels promos and faces win.

My top fav heels-

3. Randy Orton- when he first came up i was like man i hate this guy but for some reason i found out he was from stl(my hometown) i was like ooo cool so i paid attention and it definately paid off well when he got the legend killer gimmick i was ecstatic and hes been this badass guy/and wimp which is what i like

2. Eric Bishcoff- MAN i hated this guy soo much no matter what he did it pissed everyone off the man is a genius and i hope to one day see him return to replace the boring vickie mcmahon

1. Eddie Guerrero- call him a face but his tactics were all heel the guy could get a crowd behind him for cheating definately cool to see i took a looong break from wrestling after his death and didnt come back to watch until september this year

Faces-

3. The Undertaker- He gets crowds on their feet without even talking hardly which is hard to do. And also how hes managed to carry this gimmick for a long time and still get crowds hyped.unlike cena

2.Steve Austin- dude can get a crowd off their feet just by hearing the first second of his music. he also pushed the bar but always made a crowd happy and ratings up

1.The Rock- The great one is not only my favorite face but my favorite wrestler face or heel wwe or hollywood ill always say the rock . he had crowds laughing he had us asking for more but sadly he went on to hollywood to make movies that never make me happy other than the first couple. I dont want to rant and rave but i think that he may be the best in ring performer and best promo guy even in ahead of hbk and flair IMO but mainly because im one of the MILLIONS
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Right now seriously the best two heels are Edge and Orton cause they really do alot of smack talking also they are great performers inside the ring.Im a huge fan of the heels of the business cause if you have really good heels then your product doesn't suffer.
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I love heels, While Cena ruined mainly ruined faces for me forever, I just love the actions you get from heels. Plus I love to root for the guy no one wants to win. Im the same way when it comes to sports.
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I love heels too. But they have to be good, not some person just cutting stupid promos. He actually has to feel the promo. Ric Flair=Great HEel, Austin made a great heel, Angle makes a great heel, etc.

People like CArlito and Umaga don't fit a heel. Although Carlito has stated that he prefers heel than face it just doesn't work out.
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Heels:
Edge: Obviously, the coward character he's playing now pisses the hell outta u, which makes him an amazing heel. Amazing at cutting promo's and gaining heat throughout.

HHH: Well i'll say i cant STAND him now as a face, he's just meant to be a heel. Go back in time and remake the HHH of old!

HBK: Can pull em both off, love how he's one of the most popular wrestlers when suddenly SUPERKICK to one of the top faces changes that in the matter of seconds!

Extra mention : JBL. His mickwork is just sooo bull and pisses people right off! can't stand it which makes him an amazing heel character. Soo fulla himself. Don't care too much for his wrestling though.

Faces:
Undertaker: My favorite, no matter what he does people will cheer for him. He's been around so long he has the respect of everyone, pretty much the same gimmick but keeps it fresh. Love how he can get a crowd going crazy by just the sound of a *gong*

The Rock: Simply the face of all faces, just can't beat this guy! Promos, in-ring work the guy was just so enthusiastic (till he started movies) he could entertain like no other!

Hulk Hogan!: How can anyone argue against this? The guy can get the crowd into matches like no other even with his lack of wrestling skills.

Basically, to me it doesn't matter what they are as long as they play what they do best and not try and do the opposite (when WWE makes them do some face/heel turn and they basically ruin the character completely).
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