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Old 03-28-2011, 07:21 AM
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Michael Cole went to far with this and the way it is read sounded homophobic. Then you read that if it wasnt for WM and the focus on him he would have been fired i find this wrong Cole is a nobody really and i dont even think he is needed in the WWE and with a comment like that and WWE partnership with GLAAD it is a bit of a tricky spot .

One way to solve it know King v Cole Loser gets fired and they need to burry cole and show them that Homophobic comments will not go unpunished in the WWE

I have a few both male and female friends that are gay and i know how much comments can hurt and cause problems with confidence and just feel that the way its been handled due to his WM involvement is more of a slap on the wrist and sets no example for anyone about using these kind of comments

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I say this as a person who had a gay best friend growing up: calling someone a faggot does not make you a homophobe. It highly depends on the context and the person who is being called it. If Josh Matthews is indeed gay and Cole knew that, then yes, he was being homophobic. But I called my brother (and my gay friend) faggot all the time as a kid, and I didn't mean it in a homophobic way at all. It's just a substitute word for "prick, a**hole, punk, etc." for many of us. It's the same as calling someone retarded -- you would never call a retarded person that.

However, I do think society is starting to realize that it's a huge sensitivity issue. Saying it to your friends when you're kidding around is OK, but if you throw the word out in public, you risk hurting innocent bystanders with a "drive-by" insult. I believe GLAAD's partnership with WWE is to promote awareness, and I do think Cole has to be taught that awareness. I don't think he should be fired on the spot, as he wasn't calling a gay person that, but he shouldn't be allowed to say it again.

Also, formal matters aside, I find it laughable that you think Michael Cole is a nobody. He's one of WWE's top heels at the moment. He gets about as much heat as Vickie Guerrero, and is tied into the general manager angle and is the biggest promoter of the current WWE champion. I truly hate him, not just as a character, but as a person as well. Which is good... it makes for interesting TV. I will enjoy seeing his comeuppance come at Mania.

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Ok look, I have absolutely no problem with homosexuals. If they want to be equal then that's all fine and dandy... But here's the problem with being equals.

It's not limited to just positive reactions. Sometimes, just like we in the African American community, you're going to find some people who just don't like you. And to be honest, that's all THEIR RIGHT just like it's YOUR RIGHT to be gay. Seriously, if they want to be equals then they should be prepared when the negative side of that equality comes up into society.

As for the Michael Cole situation, I don't find what he said to be anything too serious. It's just one guy and his honest to God opinion. If the GLAAD community has a problem with FREEDOM OF SPEECH then maybe it's THEM who needs to be sued.
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Old 03-28-2011, 08:27 AM
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Getting fired for this is drastic in my opinion.

Michael Cole is a human being. I think the problem here is that he is forgetting about how many people read his comments. It is a bit daft though when you see his announce booth / 'cole mine' with his twitter address across the front! Obviously everyone who watches RAW knows his twitter address because we have been seeing it advertised for the past few weeks! I find that the funniest thing, he advertises us to go there and he just calls Josh a faggot! Not good!

However, it will be interesting to see if he has his twitter address advertised tonight!

Personally, I think WWE stars having twitter is ridiculous. It's just setting yourself up for trouble. They need some sort of social network training, or someone to monitor their posts before they go live.
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Old 03-28-2011, 08:27 AM
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Normally, this wouldn't have been such a big deal. A bit of negative press, Micheal Cole in the dog house for a few weeks. The problem is that less then 2 weeks ago, WWE and GLAAD partnered together to stop this behavior, only for Cole to go make a comment like that. The timing couldn't be worse for WWE because Cole/Lawler is one of the top draws at Mania iMO. This puts WWE in a very tough spot, and although I don't know what will be done, I doubt we'll see Cole next week on RAW, or for a while after that.
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The part that sucks the most about all of this is the fact that Cole is the best heel on RAW right now and that his match with Jerry Lawler was all set to be a fun damn sight to watch, and NOW, nobody in their right mind thinks Cole will go over in any way, shape or form. King is going to squash him, Austin is going to help, and Cole is going to either be humiliated, fired, or both.

I just don't get it. How do these people CONTINUE to let pushes go too far? What is it that's so tough about keeping things even keel when you're a major focal point?

Normally I'd take issue with GLAAD getting involved, but after that Rutgers kid killed himself over being broadcast on the net for being gay and with all of the middle-school, high school, and even college-aged bullying of gays turning so ugly so often, you'd have to be such a naive liberal not to realize that its a problem. Questions like "why is GLAAD making such a big deal about it?" are foolish questions. It's a big deal because it's a massive problem in our society and it's leading to murders and suicides. So they're trying to curtail it...
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Old 03-28-2011, 08:38 AM
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Michael Cole should consider himself very, very lucky that the match for WrestleMania was made before he said what he said on Twitter. As per the article on WZ's home page, it seemed quite clear that if it wasn't for the WrestleMania match then Cole would be fired.

IC, you bring up the point of Michael Cole being squashed and Austin getting involved. Before this happened, that's how I saw it going down anyway. Cole had no chance of actually winning this, not with Steve Austin as the guest referee. I think that regardless of this event, the match result still would have been the same.

Michael Cole, as a grown man and with the recent Cena/GLAAD issue, should have really known better than to call Mathews what he called him. He's an idiot for thinking it would be ok.
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You know, when I read about this, the first thing I thought was that Cole was going all Ultimate Warrior and the lines between his character and his real life were breaking down. Who knows, maybe he is a petty, neurotic megalomaniac in real life. He's been portraying his role quite convincingly. I mean, this almost makes sense in a fucked up way. He's really become virtually intolerable, and this is coming from someone who loves good heel work. I thought interrupting the diva's match was kin to kicking a three legged dog: Eve and Maryse may not be particularly enthralling in the ring, but that was just uncomfortable. Speaking of uncomfortable, seeing Cole talk shit about Lawler's dead parents right to his face was pretty hard to watch, too. I doubt that Cole came up with the idea himself, I mean Lawler had to sign off on it, right? But didn't it seem to come easier from Cole the second time as opposed to when he first brought it up?


I'm just kind of riffing here to figure out why hell such a high profile personality pulls this kind of a boner right before 'Mania. I think IC25 has pointed out the heart of the matter, I would agree that all of this focus could very well have warped him in some way, just like when Jim Hellwig did batshit crazy promos for so long that he began to literally believe that he was the Ultimate Warrior. I think Cole was trying to be downright vile, as he has been, and overstepped a boundary he either didn't see at all or underestimated.
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Old 03-28-2011, 08:55 AM
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Michael Cole should consider himself very, very lucky that the match for WrestleMania was made before he said what he said on Twitter. As per the article on WZ's home page, it seemed quite clear that if it wasn't for the WrestleMania match then Cole would be fired.

IC, you bring up the point of Michael Cole being squashed and Austin getting involved. Before this happened, that's how I saw it going down anyway. Cole had no chance of actually winning this, not with Steve Austin as the guest referee. I think that regardless of this event, the match result still would have been the same.

Michael Cole, as a grown man and with the recent Cena/GLAAD issue, should have really known better than to call Mathews what he called him. He's an idiot for thinking it would be ok.
EXACTLY. This is a mature, realistic response. Most get on their high horse because this paints wrestling in a negative light at the moment. Its like kicking a dying cat while it tries to get some water.

Cole, knew better than this. People can bring up the tired ''Freedom of speech'' stuff. But if I dropped the words N*gger, to speak about Booker T, or anything like that, I would be outed instantly by this forum. (Mind you, this is an EXAMPLE, therefore will be anyone judging me, will be ignored for not paying attention to the point)

Prejudice is NOT okay in ANYWAY. There were hundreds of insults that Cole could have said, He could have even called him a prick, Its a negative insult, but NOT connected to any group at all.

When in the public eye, alot of the regular freedoms are NOT there, bottom line, its the way its always been. But...the thing is, we should NOT have the freedom to say things like that. People hold onto the freedom of speech more for negative things than positive (See Eminem, Micheal richardson, Howard stern) Thats when people want to use that EXCUSE, is when they feel they can say whatever they want, even if it bothers people, its a immature stance most of the time. You never hear people get pissed off when someone says ''I want world peace'', they don't need to bring up freedom of speech, because they know in their heart of hearts, It did NOT insult ANY group of humans at all. Yet people, who refuse to grow up, use that excuse EVERYTIME they say something they KNOW served NO purpose, and only said it to anger people. Its childish.

Everyone bashing GLAAD, and such, should really look at themselves, and just wonder if they are really protectors of the ''Freedom of speech'' or if they are just homophobic. And its completely on you, If your homophobic, Im not here to judge you, as Im married to a woman, Im not gay at all, BUT I do support ALL humans and their choices in life, but stop acting like Marks, feeling you have to support Cole, he fucked up, Bottom line. Let him take his lashes and move on.
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Old 03-28-2011, 09:01 AM
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I agree with Straight Line Stitch. If people want to be equal then they have to learn to deal with the negative comments that will come. People are WAY to sensitive now a days and it seems like almost ANYTHING can "hurt someone's feelings." Hell, even in schools you can get in trouble by a teacher for calling someone (even just a friend) a "retard". BIG DEAL! People need to grow up and stop whining about any and every little thing! As far as I am concerned, Cole was just adding heat to his heel character which is perfectly fine. If people are going to have a problem with certain things, DON'T READ IT, OR DON'T WATCH IT! WHATEVER!
To sum it all up, PEOPLE NEED TO QUIT THEIR BITCHING! About EVERYTHING and ANYTHING!
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