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Old 06-06-2018, 09:20 AM
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The one NEGATIVE to your first positive.

Okay, you say that the champion doesn't have to wrestle every week. Fair enough. Undertaker, Ronda Rousey, Triple H and others don't wrestle on RAW either.

But Brock doesn't do all the PPVs either. There are PPVs where the title isn't defended, because he is not there.

He also doesn't show up and promote his matches most weeks, or has a long running feud.

Your point would be valid if Brock did all the PPVs. But he doesn't. My problem with him is that he shows up when he feels like it.
They are using the UFC way of booking with him and i found it refreshing. In the UFC the Heavyweight Champion isn't fighting on every PPV. They keep him for the big shows and That's what they want to portrait with Lesnar. He's a guys that shows up for the big fights like a mania or summerslam, he's not going to show up if it's on a smaller show like a backlash. It makes the guy look like a big deal and help the championship look like a big deal because of it.

If you had Lesnar show up on every show or defend on every ppv, he would feel like a big deal anymore kinda like what's slowly happening with Ronda Rousey at the moment. She felt like a big deal going into mania but she slowly losing her luster as a special attraction because she's been on tv almost every week since she sign with the company.
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Old 06-06-2018, 10:00 AM
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Before getting into specifics, one thing WWE has is an amazing roster of talent, maybe the most overall ability of any roster in company history, but the biggest problem with it is that creativity is so restricted and formulaic due to Vince McMahon's issues as a control freak who wants to do everything remotely possible to project a very specific image of WWE. With that being said, it's become the most common thing in all of wrestling fandom to criticize WWE but a whole hell of a lot of fans are extremely slow in giving WWE any degree of credit for....well anything really because it's so fashionable to hate on WWE. WWE is the establishment and it seems that every fan, to one degree or another, wants to be anti-establishment; hell, in all the movies and TV shows, isn't it always the anti-establishment characters who're portrayed as the coolest? You know, the rebels and all that stuff? And yes, believe it or not, a lot of fans do view themselves as some sort of cool, rebellious outsider whenever they stick it to WWE.

Anyhow, as to good things going on right now:

Raw:

Seth Rollins - Rollins is really in his element as a babyface, fighting champion. It just really seems to suit him and it's something that he can really ride the wave of for a while. I just hope WWE doesn't try ending it too soon as there's a lot that can be milked from it.

Braun Strowman - While I do think WWE goes a little overboard at times, I give them credit for ultimately keeping Strowman strong. I also like that they're progressing him little by little while still keeping the core aspects of who he is and what he's about firmly in tact.

Finn Balor - Balor is someone that's a lot like Rollins in that he's a workhorse who can be counted on to provide quality matches. I do think he needs to be fleshed out more as a persona personally, but what they're doing seems to be working for a lot of fans. He consistently gets big reactions, so maybe simpler is the way to go with him. At some point, I wouldn't mind seeing him as a heel as I think he does have a cool factor about him that could be exploited well in the guise of a cocky lowlife.

Kevin Owens - Owens continues to be a real gift for WWE in my opinion. Owens is a versatile guy who can be silly & funny, a chicken shit heel and a sociopathic schemer with the result being someone who can do well in just about any situation. Quality work on the mic, easy to be invested in and can deliver quality in the ring, especially if they just let him go all out.

The B-Team - I like what they're doing with Dallas and Axel. It's just fun watching them do their thing and while it may not last, I'm getting a kick out of it for the time being.

The Deleter of Worlds - As with the B-Team, I'm just kinda digging the team. I don't know how long it'll last, but it's nice to see Bray Wyatt actually coming out on the upside of things for once. I can take or leave Hardy's Woken/Broken character, but at least it's unique.

Drew McIntyre & Dolph Ziggler - I think these two work well together, but I'm more impressed with McIntyre. I don't look for this team to last all that long but, in truth, I don't think it needs to because McIntyre doesn't need Ziggler. Ziggler has gone as far as he's going in WWE, but he can still be useful as the guy has a lot of ability. McIntyre has star written all over him and I like the direciton they're taking with him.

Elias - Elias is someone that I don't think will rise much higher than he is, but what he's got going on right now is good enough for the time being. His schtick is a lot of fun and WWE might as well milk it for all they can. At some point, maybe in another 6 to 12 months, I think Elias is gonna have to evolve into something else; if he doesn't become a mid-card champion by this time next year and he's still doing his current gimmick, then I think he's on the road to being a mid-card jobber.

205 Live - I just decided to put the Cruiserweight Division down as a whole as 205 Live has become a really fun show to watch, in my opinion. The show is well structured now, they have several different feuds going on and they make the most of the time they've got. Cedric Alexander is a solid babyface champion, Drew Gulak shines in his role as this sort of unbalanced technician who can snap at any moment, Buddy Murphy is a real workhorse, as is Mustafa Ali, who has really come a long way as a persona due to some extremely well done sit-down interview segments.

Alexa Bliss - Alexa Bliss is just great at what she does. She's a fun, charismatic heel who knows how to tell a story and can get the crowd to strongly dislike her. She's been a strong champion and has done a lot to keep the women's movement in WWE moving forward.

The Riott Squad - I see the Riott Squad as three gals who're slowly and steadily improving as things go on and that's a good thing. I don't think Ruby Riott necessarily needs them, she's clearly the most talented among them and Logan & Morgan are eventually gonna have to sink or swim. But, for now, I like what's going on.

Sasha Banks & Bayley - I dig the slow burn they're going for in terms of this program. A heel turn for Banks seems to be looming jus tover the horizon. Sasha is at her best when she's a heel and Bayley is at her best as a sweet, sympathetic, underdog babyface. They're not rushing into this and I like how they're playing the whole "will they or won't they" type of strategy as they sometimes highlight their tension while downplaying it at others, but always keeping said tension there.

Ronda Rousey - I honestly figured that Rousey would disappear after WrestleMania, but I like that she pops up on a more regular basis. I think she's genuinely committed and is doing a good job of establishing that instead of showing up every few months like Brock Lesnar.

SmackDown:

AJ Styles - They're keeping Styles as a straight forward, scrappy babyface and it's the best way to play him as a babyface. Styles has been a strong WWE Champion and I'm glad to see that WWE has made the most out of having him. He's solid on the mic, he's easy to invest in and he's genuinely among the top in-ring guys in wrestling and has been for over a decade now.

Shinsuke Nakamura - I dig Nakamura's heel persona as he comes off as such an irreverant dick, but in a different way. His strange, mocking mannerisms along with his facial expressions, body language and no shortage of nut shots are fun to dislike. I mean, you've gotta be an asshole to hit somebody in the balls as much as he's done to poor AJ Styles; if Styles ever has another kid, poor little bastard will probably be born crosseyed.

The Miz - Miz continues to do what he does best in that he's a total dick. Miz has also been doing the best work of his career for the past 2 to 2.5 years. His feud with Daniel Bryan is looming on the horizon and it should be a lot of fun as Miz is so good at making babyfaces look sympathetic.

Daniel Bryan - Bryan is being the sort of "every man" type of guy and it works for him because it feels genuine. Fans know what works with Bryan and WWE seems to as well in that they're not trying to jam Bryan into a role/persona that's just not him. I also like that they're not moving too quickly with him because it's the smart thing to do for both themselves and Bryan himself. I know a lot of fans want Bryan moved up the card as quickly as possible, I'd say WWE officials do as well but Bryan has to show he can remain healthy.

Samoa Joe - Samoa Joe is just fun. He's fun in the ring and he portrays being a badass so smoothly and easily that you can't help but shake your head and wonder why WWE doesn't try doing this same thing with several other talents on the roster. We all know who they are, a few of them are quite obvious. Joe effortlessly exudes a menacing presence and it just works for him. He's in his element.

Big Cass - I might be in the minority, but I like Cass' character. He comes off as a confident, cocky heel who happens to be a bully that looks down his nose at everyone. He's solid on the mic and he's decent in the ring.

Andrade Cien Almas & Zelina Vega - If utilized correctly, this guy could potentially be the Hispanic star WWE has wanted for years now. He was killing it in NXT the last 8 or 9 months he was there and Zelina Vega's gift of gab on the mic did wonders for his overall game. She's a fantastic hype woman and mouthpiece and I like that they haven't rushed into things with Almas yet. He's just hit the main roster during a time when he could easily have been lost in the shuffle so waiting until MITB is finished until they really show some of what they can do was a smart choice.

Rusev Day - I don't know exactly why this has gotten over, but WWE's right to run with it. I'd like to see Rusev go back to his roots at some point, but this is fine for right now.

The Usos - As with New Day, the Usos are a couple of guys who can be counted on to deliver quality in the tag team division. I like that they've sorta taken a bit of a step out of the spotlight for the time being, but still have a strong presence.

New Day - I can do without all the pancake silliness, but once you get by that, New Day continues to be a fun, fresh feeling tag team loaded with charisma that delivers quality matches whenever the opportunity arises. Xavier Woods has been impressive the past few months and I'd like to see him branch out a bit.

The Bludgeon Brothers - Just meat and potatoes but it works. They're two big, rough, tough, hairy backwoods brawlers and that's all they need to be. WWE doesn't need to try reinventing the wheel with these two as they're working out just fine.

Anderson & Gallows - Karl Anderson & Luke Gallows have momentum on the blue brand and they're being consistently booked. I still think these guys are overrated, but at least they're coming off as a consistently solid team on SmackDown.

Charlotte Flair - Charlotte is infinitely better as a heel, but you can't argue with what she brings to the game. She's a strong presence who can be counted on to deliver quality and that's what she's done.

Becky Lynch - I hope what we're seeing out of Becky Lynch is something WWE plans to sustain. Becky is highly talented and she's gotten lost on the shuffle for well over a year now. She's a scrappy, plucky babyface who can deliver and I hope what we've been seeing for the past month or so is a return to a more prominent spot on the roster and not just being dome for MITB.

Asuka - Asuka's streak is over, but she's still a badass. She's still the charismatic badass in the ring that she's always been and I'm happy that WWE has kept with that.

Carmella - I don't care what some might say, I dig Carmella. She's a personality driven heel who's fun in her current role and it works for her. In my opinion, what Carmella is missing is an enforcer, someone to sorta take up the slack a bit considering that Carmella's chief weakness is that she doesn't come off as a "serious" threat.

I decided to leave out NXT and just focus on the main roster.
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Old 06-06-2018, 08:36 PM
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Back when I started watching Professional Sports Wrestling Entertainment, Hulk Hogan never had a match on WWF Wrestling Challenge or WWF SuperStars of Wrestling. Things did change when Ultimate Warrior won the Winged Eagle Belt and continued to have squash matches against jobbers, but can you even picture Hogan wrestling a jobber on a Saturday morning, which was then replayed on Sunday afternoon on WWF Wrestling Spotlight??
He did, at least once, but yes, it was exceedingly rare. This would have been around the time of the original WrestleMania (can't place it as to whether before or after, though), and it was Hogan against AJ Petruzzi, a jobber of the day. Of course, it was the usual Hogan match, with even the jobber getting in more offence than he would in his normal televised match against JYD or Superfly or Tito Santana, followed by Hulking up, no selling, leg drop, and a three count.

That's the exception that proves the rule. That's the only one I can think of ever having happened. The only other time I can think of a match with Hogan on the Saturday show in the day was teaming with Orndorff against Studd and Bundy when Orndorff turned on him again, but that was later.
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Old 06-08-2018, 10:42 PM
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there are many positives (most on smackdown).....i will say a few then get to my favorite....1) Rollins' wrestling....2) Daniel Bryan in the ring....3) nice tag team work on smackdown....3) the US title picture lately.....4) calling up Almas....5) Braun Strowman....6) Owens and Zayn's in ring work (not booking, just in the ring). 7) Miz's booking

but to me the BEST thing WWE has done positively is their booking of Samoa Joe. on RAW he was at best a 4th best monster type wrestler. he could've moved up the card and held the Universial title, now on Smackdown he's the dominate guy who can cut promos, but isnt overused with his promos. Samoa Joe has the potential to a great WWE World Champion and i hope he holds this title multiple times in his career, that's how much of a fan i have became of his and it's clear that TNA really screwed up with his booking.
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Best 3 Things they're doing

1) Smackdown Live - They definitely got the better of Raw in the Shakeup and have so many different directions they can go with the singles and tag division. Women's division is solid to with Carmella, Charlotte, Asuka, Becky, etc...
2) Allowing Rollins to shine and not keeping him under Reigns. Rollins has exploded lately and they haven't held him back so that is nice to see.
3) Women's division as a whole. Both brands have solid storylines and solid matches. The Female Revolution is alive and well in the WWE!!!
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Old 06-11-2018, 09:51 AM
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1) Smackdown Live - They definitely got the better of Raw in the Shakeup and have so many different directions they can go with the singles and tag division. Women's division is solid to with Carmella, Charlotte, Asuka, Becky, etc...
Agree here....mostly though with the main event scene and midcard and tag team.

The women's division needs work, mostly because Carmella (while a great talker) needs MAJOR work in the ring, however Charlotte is great, Asuka is always amazing and Becky is great in the ring, but needs a heel turn in the worst way. turn her heel and see her face Charlotte and Asuka and that would be greatness in the ring...in fact, i'd have Asuka beat Carmella...then have a re-match with Charlotte and Asuka where Becky gets involved and cashes in the case on Asuka....now i doubt that'll happen, but it would be instant heat to interrupt a great match like that.

the main event scene has so much complelling and interesting things happening. will Nakamura win the world title...if he doesnt, does he chase Hardy for the US title?? if AJ retains, will Joe cash in a case on him that night?? when will Samoa Joe be the world champion and how awesome will he and his matches as champion be....Bryan vs. Miz will be great when it's time to go that route. Almas will likely dominate the midcard and eventually chase or win the us title. and i havent gotten to the tag teams.

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Sasha Banks & Bayley - I dig the slow burn they're going for in terms of this program. A heel turn for Banks seems to be looming jus tover the horizon. Sasha is at her best when she's a heel and Bayley is at her best as a sweet, sympathetic, underdog babyface. They're not rushing into this and I like how they're playing the whole "will they or won't they" type of strategy as they sometimes highlight their tension while downplaying it at others, but always keeping said tension there.
Dude, this feud is over and it's known as the worst feud of the year so far... WWE needs more fans like you who are entertained over anything.. There was never a slow burn, they just didn't know where the fuck this feud was headed so they dropped it.
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Branding themselves and making stock holders happy. That's pretty much it sadly, at times, its at the expense of the actual wrestling product.
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