Originally Posted by LSN80
First off, let me say that Im the last one to defend some of the actions off the court of basketball players. But are you serious about hockey players being "good guys?" Hockey is my favorite sport, but this is ludicrous. Each of the 32 teams in the NHL employs an "enforcer", a glorified goon whose only job is to fight the other teams enforcer. They possess limited skill and athletic ability, unless throwing rights and lefts count.
Being well rounded off the playing surface and being a tough guy on it are two completely different things. Sean Avery may be a goon on the ice, but he's well rounded off of it. He's an aspiring fashion designer for goodness sakes.
To add to this, hockey players are no better, if not worse, then basketball players. Was the Vancouver Canucks Brad May being an "all around great guy" when he put a "physical bounty" on Steve Moore of the Colorado Avalanche? Todd Bertuzzi "cashed in" on said bounty when he ended Moore's career by punching him, blindsided in the head, breaking his neck in the process. You can read the article here.
Then there's perennial all-star forward and sniper Danny Healtey of the San Jose Sharks, formerly of the Ottawa Senators and began his NHL career with the Altalnta Thrashers. This "good guy" drove his car 130 miles an hour in a 35 zone after drinking. As a result, passenger and fellow teammate Dan Snyder died due to massive head trauma when Heatley wrecklesslhy ran his car off a road and into a brick wall. Heatley only avoided jail time because Snyder's family begged the jude to do so. You can read this story here.
There's certainly more, as I saved my most recent and laughable example for last. NHL 10 coverboy Patrick Kane and his cousin decided it was appropriate to assault a taxi cab driver because he didn't have a 20 cents in change from $15.00. Yes, you read that right, 20 cents! Not only did they assault the taxi-cab driver, but they stole the $15.00 back as well! A multi-millionaire cover boy commits assault, and he's a good guy? Gimme a break. You can read the article here.
Yes, these are some isolated incidents. But I have some stats for NBA players that may blow you away. These are a few years old, but still, extrememly significant. According to this article (http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t137906/
) 40% of NBA players have criminal records. 40%!
You listed a bunch of specific examples, but off the top of my head I can give you Delonte West and his gun charges along with fighting with teammates this year, OJ Mayo and Tony Allen getting in a brawl over gambling, Artest attacking the crowd in Detroit, one of the NBA's premier players was involved in a serious rape trial a few years ago, ect and whatnot. Sure there are instances in every sport, but in pro basketball there seems to be an ungodly amount.
As for on the court stuff, that happens in any sport and the heat of battle. I don't think you can blame people as much for that. But still, if you want some bad stuff out of the NBA, here it is. The infamous Kermit Washington punch.
As far as the physical side, hockey players have to be quick, strong, tough, durable, and skilled to be good players. Skating while controlling a small puck and getting an accurate shot on a relatively small net is a pretty damn diffiicult thing to do.
As for the tennis arguments, I don't really get it. Sure you have to be in pretty good shape, but it's more of less the same thing each and every time out there. And not to mention no tennis player has much more than 5 or 6 quality years in them. I just don't get it.