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Old 06-11-2018, 09:25 PM
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Default Is Lesnar's title reign longer to snub CM Punk?

Maybe it's just conspiracy type thinking here but I'm wondering if all this time Lesnar continuing this long title reign is to go over Punk's long title reign so if anything in the future is brought up on long title reigns they can include Lesnar's and not have to mention Punk's? Because in reality Lesnar should've dropped that title a long time ago. Honestly back when Punk had it, they let him continue to have it so they could drop it to the Rock which they had planned since that summer of 2012. Anyways just some thought...
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Old 06-12-2018, 02:43 AM
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You know, I was thinking the exact same thing. They did it with AJ Lee and now Punk. I liked punk's reign till he was feuding with Jericho after that it was just horrible. Lesner's few appearances have been better than his reign post Jericho. But it ain't good enough to stretch it for over a year. WWE is definitely doing it to snub Punk and hurting themselves in the process.
Lesner needs to be a regular on raw or drop the belt to RR.
There's so much potential on raw and all of it is being wasted in absence of a regular champ.
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Old 06-12-2018, 06:25 AM
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It wouldn't be the first time WWE did this (heck the most recent example is New Day breaking Demolition's record) so I wouldn't be surprised if that was a factor in WWE's decision to let Lesnar hold on to the strap much longer.
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Old 06-12-2018, 07:07 AM
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Couldn't be, they're different titles. I think that's what a lot of people seem to forget. He can't technically break the record for longest WWE Championship reign in the last 30 years, because he hasn't held the WWE Titles since 2015. That title reign only lasted a few months.
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Old 06-12-2018, 07:24 AM
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If you want to bet 100% technical about it, then Punk still has the longest WWE Championship run of the last 30 years as the Universal Championship is a title with its own lineage and history. However, WWE's own technical perspective is that Lesnar's run is the longest of any World Championship in WWE during the last 30 years.

I don't know if it's a snub or not but the timing is suspicious but, then again, you're going to have some who'll say it'd be suspicious no matter what. Let's face it, a lot of internet fans love to create conspiracy theories regarding WWE whether there's any justification for it or not, so it really doesn't matter to many of them one way or the other. At the same time, records are made to be broken and there doesn't have to be a sinister, ulterior motive behind it. For instance, if New Day was a team who was undeserving of having the longest single Tag Team Championship run in company history, then I'd be more inclined to believe conspiracy theories that it was all just a big middle finger to Demolition. In my opinion, however, New Day's a better team and a more entertaining team than Demolition ever was. As for Lesnar, I, like many, have not been a fan of Lesnar being a World Champion given the format of his WWE deals; he's lazy, he's completely uncommitted to the company and his lack of entertaining 1 on 1 matches as champion only reinforce any negative feelings I have about the whole situation. I'm not hating on Lesnar because he gets so much from WWE for so few appearances, Vince is the asshole dumb enough to pay because he loves any and all mainstream attention from the media and Lesnar does deliver that. I'm just tired of Lesnar, I'm tired of the formula for his booking, I'm tired of the lack of entertaining feuds, I'm not at all interested in Roman Reigns taking the title from him, etc.. It's just been one big mess overall and it's hard for me to care when a champion can't deliver entertaining 1 on 1 matches and defends the title once in a blue moon. If Lesnar's 1 on 1 matches were genuinely must see due to their high quality, I'd be okay with him only defending the title once every handful of months but that's not the case.I
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Old 06-12-2018, 08:20 AM
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If you want to bet 100% technical about it, then Punk still has the longest WWE Championship run of the last 30 years as the Universal Championship is a title with its own lineage and history. However, WWE's own technical perspective is that Lesnar's run is the longest of any World Championship in WWE during the last 30 years.

I don't know if it's a snub or not but the timing is suspicious but, then again, you're going to have some who'll say it'd be suspicious no matter what. Let's face it, a lot of internet fans love to create conspiracy theories regarding WWE whether there's any justification for it or not, so it really doesn't matter to many of them one way or the other. At the same time, records are made to be broken and there doesn't have to be a sinister, ulterior motive behind it. For instance, if New Day was a team who was undeserving of having the longest single Tag Team Championship run in company history, then I'd be more inclined to believe conspiracy theories that it was all just a big middle finger to Demolition. In my opinion, however, New Day's a better team and a more entertaining team than Demolition ever was. As for Lesnar, I, like many, have not been a fan of Lesnar being a World Champion given the format of his WWE deals; he's lazy, he's completely uncommitted to the company and his lack of entertaining 1 on 1 matches as champion only reinforce any negative feelings I have about the whole situation. I'm not hating on Lesnar because he gets so much from WWE for so few appearances, Vince is the asshole dumb enough to pay because he loves any and all mainstream attention from the media and Lesnar does deliver that. I'm just tired of Lesnar, I'm tired of the formula for his booking, I'm tired of the lack of entertaining feuds, I'm not at all interested in Roman Reigns taking the title from him, etc.. It's just been one big mess overall and it's hard for me to care when a champion can't deliver entertaining 1 on 1 matches and defends the title once in a blue moon. If Lesnar's 1 on 1 matches were genuinely must see due to their high quality, I'd be okay with him only defending the title once every handful of months but that's not the case.I
i am usually suspicious of WWE breaking records only due to the circumstances surrounding it before and after.

Both Nikki Bella and The New Day broke the Women's and Tag Team title records whose previous record holder had somewhat of a flimsy relationship. Only to drop the title less than a month after breaking it.

New Day was especially suspicious because they pretty much lost all their non-title PPV matches and lost title matches via DQ despite being babyfaces.


Orton broke Lesnar's record to become the youngest World Champion only to drop the title a month later and only regained the World Title 3 years later.
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Old 06-12-2018, 07:37 AM
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Maybe it's just conspiracy type thinking here but I'm wondering if all this time Lesnar continuing this long title reign is to go over Punk's long title reign so if anything in the future is brought up on long title reigns they can include Lesnar's and not have to mention Punk's? Because in reality Lesnar should've dropped that title a long time ago. Honestly back when Punk had it, they let him continue to have it so they could drop it to the Rock which they had planned since that summer of 2012. Anyways just some thought...
You make an interesting point.

If Brock gets the longest reign, to spite Punk, it is ironic, in that Randy Orton won his first WWE belt when he did, so that he would be younger than Brock, who was the previous youngest champion of all time, and Brock had left the company. So, Vince's pettiness might have stuck again.

At least Punk defended it every month.
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Pretty obvious here....

Nikki Bella breaks AJ Lee's record

Brock Lesnar breaks CM Punk's record

Do the math WWE wants there names nowhere near the top of record books.
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Based on what others have pointed out, now that Brock has surpassed Punk he can now drop the title shortly. Unfortunately it will be to Reigns.
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Pretty obvious here....

Nikki Bella breaks AJ Lee's record

Brock Lesnar breaks CM Punk's record

Do the math WWE wants there names nowhere near the top of record books.
The math is Nikki is about to get Brock smashed.
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