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Old 02-14-2017, 01:17 PM
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I'm currently watching In Your House on the WWE Network and one thing that struck me is the Davey Boy got quite a few title shots at these shows against 3 different people. At IYH 4 it was Diesel, IYH 5 it was his brother in law and at IYH 8 it was Shawn Michaels.




Now I'm of the opinion that Bulldog would have been a pretty good champion and antone of these shows would have been a great time to give him the title even if it's not for very long. He had the look Vince drools over and while not the best talker he had Jim Cornette as a manager so that wasn't a big deal.


Now my question for all of you is this: If they had decided to give Bulldog the title at one of these which one would have been the best time to do it?

Having seen all of them I think they should have had him go over Bret Hart at IYH 5. The Story is there with Bret having lost his IC title back at SummerSlam 1992 to Bulldog. They played that up pretty much the entire match and having Bulldog win would have set everything up nicely for an even bigger moment at the Royal Rumble the next month with Bret finally beating Davey Boy and regaining his title.
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Old 02-14-2017, 01:57 PM
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IF they had to choose one it would probably be IYH 5 with Bret. The point of having Bret defeat Diesel at Survivor Series 1995 was to turn Diesel back heel with a post match attack. It wouldn't have been the same with Bulldog (a much larger man) in place of Bret.

There is no way he is defeating Shawn just months into his run as WWF Champion. So it would have the Bret by default. But in all honesty that wouldn't have made sense either as Bret as JUST defeated Diesel and they were building him towards a match with Shawn at WM 12

All that being said Bulldog was a solid performer in 1995 and I would've liked to see a series of matches with Bret. Bulldog definitely deserved a run with the title at some point but the question is could he connect with the American audience and could he headline a major PPV?
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Old 02-14-2017, 02:26 PM
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I would have liked to have seen him win it here, as he would have become the first Grand Slam Champion, once he won the European Championship in 97, plus the Hardcore Title later. All other things going on as they did of course..
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Old 02-14-2017, 02:31 PM
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Probably against Bret, if they had to choose one. Bret was a transitional champion then, and as long as he won it back at Royal Rumble so he could lose it to Shawn at WrestleMania, everything would have worked out reasonably well.
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I would loved to have seen him have a world title run, I had never seen anyone over so much as the Bulldog was at Summerslam 92, I know that was his home country but his match did headline the show that had the biggest Summerslam attendance of all time and could have easily been for a world title instead of the IC title and he has main evented several sucessful PPVS in the US both in WWE and WCW for the world title and he always put on a great match so I think he would have had more than enough capability to win it.

I heard rumours that he had a reputation for drug use perhaps that is what held him back and prevented the people in charge having faith or trust to put the title on him another problem was he was around at a time when there was so much other talent around to compete with and also in an era where the world title didn't change hands as often as it does now, Also the bad timing of the steriod scandal hitting right at his peak straight after Summerslam 92 where if it didn't happen he may have gotten a bigger push,
I'm betting if he was around now he would be a multi time champion.

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I just don't think that IYH 5 was the time. Building to WM12 with the Shawn/Bret storyline revolving around who is the best, I don't think Bret should have dropped the belt for a transitional run.

I think the best time for Bulldog to get the belt would have been from Shawn Michaels at Survivor Series 96 and dropping it back at the rumble. It was clearly a transitional run for Sid and I think Bulldog would have been better suited. Shawn and Bulldog always worked so well together. Everything is still in line to play out as it did and Sid still gets his 97 run.
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I think Vince toyed with the idea of giving Davey a title run given the number of title shots he had on PPV 1995-96.

Had it happened he would have been a caretaker champ.... being heel at the time, I would have him take the belt from Diesel and then have Davey lose it to Bret at Survivor Series.

As mentioned above Davey would have been no worse than Sid holding the title for a short transitional period
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I'm glad Davey wasn't WWF champion for one reason. This would have cemented what so many people already think;that Davey was better than the Dynamite Kid. He was good but he wasn't nearly as good and Dynamite. History, for most, says that Davey was better because Dyamite never had a singles run and given the time to shine. I get that his career was bascally over when the bulldogs left the WWF in 1988 so he never had the chance to show how good he was. But the fact remains that he was a better wrestler than Davey Boy so far too people realize it.
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I think the best time for Bulldog to get the belt would have been from Shawn Michaels at Survivor Series 96 and dropping it back at the rumble. It was clearly a transitional run for Sid and I think Bulldog would have been better suited. Shawn and Bulldog always worked so well together. Everything is still in line to play out as it did and Sid still gets his 97 run.
The only question here is they still needed Sid to draw for house shows as champion. Sid was a proven draw as a main event in the U.S. Davey was much more of a question mark. Shawn and Davey also had already feuded in mid-'96 and headlined two PPV's so to extend that feud into '97 would have been stretch
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I'm glad Davey wasn't WWF champion for one reason. This would have cemented what so many people already think;that Davey was better than the Dynamite Kid. He was good but he wasn't nearly as good and Dynamite. History, for most, says that Davey was better because Dyamite never had a singles run and given the time to shine. I get that his career was bascally over when the bulldogs left the WWF in 1988 so he never had the chance to show how good he was. But the fact remains that he was a better wrestler than Davey Boy so far too people realize it.
This is the kind of opinion that really annoys me...

One wasn't "better" than the other... they were both top drawer wrestlers. The difference is that Davey was able to parlay his career into a more successful singles career than Tommy could...even when they were in the UK.

It was Davey who was headlining World of Sport teaming with Big Daddy at 15... not Dynamite... It was Davey who won at Wembley and got WWF Title matches... Injury isn't the issue with Dynamite, his attitude was. It stunk to the point few even liked him enough to want to work him. Davey was a loveable goof who was under a "bad influence" in Tommy, but as they were family he got a pass. So few people speak badly of Davey, even now... they talk of his ribbing, personality and not "just cos he's dead". Of course THAT guy is gonna do better than the jerk who bullies all the talents in the back slightly above him, so no one really wants to work him too.

Davey's behaviour wasn't brilliant either and arguably it cost him the WWF title. Interestingly I recently saw the Sunny Youshoot where she claims she was banging Davey after Shawn... so it makes sense timing wise and perhaps explains better than anything why Davey didn't win the title from Shawn when it made perfect sense for him to be in that role rather than Sid. He also smashed that Cody Light kid's skull in a bar fight... but he did help Shawn with the Marines... so on balance in Vince's eyes his good karma outweighed his bad. Davey perhaps got more "chances" than most and even at the time of his death was on his way back to the WWE by all accounts, with Harry in tow.

Davey was looked at as a potential 3rd main eventer and was all over merch as far back as 1990 when they signed him... They already had their eye on the UK and Europe as their major goal to conquer and having Davey, who had a unique look and popularity helped them. In a year they went from "Battle Royal at The Albert Hall" to Summerslam at Wembley and Davey headlined both shows... he was popular in the US too.

Sadly his best opportunity was after Summerslam 92... If he HADN'T been fired, he v Bret would have happened at least twice more for the World title... I'm also pretty certain that had that timeline followed, Mania 11 would have been at Wembley or in the UK.
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