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View Poll Results: Who Wins This Match?
Chris Benoit 19 54.29%
Sid Vicious 16 45.71%
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Old 03-20-2017, 02:21 PM
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Vote against Chris if you must, but dont make a hypocrite of yourself by ignoring the same criteria later on.
I promise a consistent stand on voting against child killers.

For those of you arguing that out-of-ring factors should not influence how people are perceived as a professional wrestler, let us bear in mind that this is a scripted performance with the object of bringing in money. The WWE's stock nose-dived in the immediate aftermath of Chris Benoit murdering his wife and child.

Another thing Chris Benoit can be directly thankful is a strong revamp of the Wellness Policy, as well as the prohibition on moves targeting the head- including people's beloved chair shots to the face. If you find these to be good things (and in and of themself, they are), then you find yourself trying to argue the upside of a child murder.
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Old 03-20-2017, 03:14 PM
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Bottom line is that Sid, while not the best in the ring or on the mic, was a consistent top draw in wrestling during the early and mid 90s.
I don't think Sid was ever a top draw. He was a guy who promoters liked to build into big spots due to his look, but ultimately it was all to eventually put over other more talented guys. Sid didn't sell main events, his more popular and talented opponents did.
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Also, the type of performers that he beat were the Benoit type of performers. Like Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels.
While Sid did have a very solid record against Bret(though most of his wins were by DQ or in gimmick matches), he was pretty much Shawn's bitch- only defeating him once, and losing to him on multiple occasions. Benoit on the other had a far better record against HBK and won multiple world title main events in which they shared the ring. He also has plenty of victories against guys like Flair, The Rock, Triple H, Cena, Angle, Eddy, Jericho, Edge, Orton etc. who were far bigger stars than Sid; as well as plenty of victories against Sid-like characters like Bigelow, Big Show, Batista, Kane, and Rhyno. Benoit has made Cena, Big Show, Kane, and Orton all tap out. No other man in the history of the business can make that claim about all of those competitors.
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Yes Benoit could wrestle circles around Sid, but honestly, that's about all Benoit had on Sid.
That's all Benoit had on Sid, well aside from more PPV main event appearances, a wrestling observer Hall of Fame spot, a PWI wrestler of the year award and a number one ranking in their yearly PWI 500, arguably more overall championship success, far more high profile victories against a better list of opponents, a World title victory in the main event of WrestleMania(a main event spot Sid recieved and lost in twice), and a World Title victory against Sid himself. But you're right, aside from that, what does Benoit really have on Sid?

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Going by that, how could you not vote for Sid?
Easily. Vote for Benoit.
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Old 03-20-2017, 03:37 PM
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I like Sid. He should be in the WWE HOF, but he probably jumped around a little to much for Vince's liking. He was a very good heel for any promotion he was in. Yeah, Benoit went over, but that was a desperate attempt to get Benoit to stick around.

The highlight of Benoit's career was winning a world title at Wrestlemania, as a bit player in the larger Shawn/Trips feud. He didn't even hold the title long before dropping it in lackluster fashion to Orton.

Sid may have fumbled a few words to hilarious effect a few times, but he was a bonifide main event star, something Benoit really never was.

Go with Sid.
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Old 03-20-2017, 07:07 PM
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I promise a consistent stand on voting against child killers.

For those of you arguing that out-of-ring factors should not influence how people are perceived as a professional wrestler, let us bear in mind that this is a scripted performance with the object of bringing in money. The WWE's stock nose-dived in the immediate aftermath of Chris Benoit murdering his wife and child.

Another thing Chris Benoit can be directly thankful is a strong revamp of the Wellness Policy, as well as the prohibition on moves targeting the head- including people's beloved chair shots to the face. If you find these to be good things (and in and of themself, they are), then you find yourself trying to argue the upside of a child murder.
While the impact of those outside actions do change business, they do not change what the person accomplished or how they wrestled. The statement wasnt really directed at you, more at the non level headed bunch who ignore the same terrible behavior when voting for others. Not going to open this can of worms further as this tends to devolve from a discussion about wrestling, to only being about one tragic day.
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Old 03-20-2017, 08:04 PM
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I'm going to be voting against Chris Benoit for wrestling reasons. Sid was consistently on top of whatever promotion he was in, Benoit was occasionally placed there in desperate times, and then went back down or out the door again. Chris Benoit, from a wrestling perspective at least, was a safe pair of hands, but a promotion full of Chris Benoits wouldn't get out of high school gyms.
My thoughts exactly, Tasty.

Sid was a good performer. Everything that Benoit excelled at Sid did too. Particularly his body language, which was a huge part of Benoit's charm. Sid may not have had Nash's charisma or Undertaker's athleticism, but he possessed a solid mixture of both. He could play the good or bad roles naturally, and was a popular main eventer for a much longer period of time than Benoit.

Benoit was a great hand. A solid mid carder. He just didn't have the right tools to be a top notch main eventer. Sid wasn't exactly top tier either, but he certainly excelled past anything Benoit did.

Vote Sid.
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Old 03-20-2017, 09:31 PM
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I'm not going to penalize Benoit for being better at murder than Sid. It's not his fault that Sid failed to get the job done.

Voting for Benoit because he was a better pro wrestler than Sid.
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Old 03-21-2017, 11:19 AM
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It's sad that Sid Vicious is remembered now for being a blundering dolt. He was a lot better on the microphone than Benoit ever was. He was also on top longer, and was featured much more prominently in respective promotions than Benoit was. Vicious had much more range of personality than Chris ever showed, too, and I like voting for the individual who had the better character.

Vote Vicious. He stays in character even when a guy with a bedazzled Stormtrooper helmet trips through his debut.
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A big part of Benoit's legacy (to me at least) is his ability to out wrestle and out last his bigger opponent and wear them down enough to slap on that crossface and I don't see that changing here.

When you've beaten Triple H and HBK in the main event of one of the biggest Wrestlmanias of all time for the World Title then is it that much of a stretch to think he could Sycho Sid? Sid is exactly the kind of giant Benoit would be booked to go over.

Vote for Benoit.
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This is easy. Benoit is one of the best ever while Sid was very overrated. He's apart of the worst Mania event in history.

This isn't about what they did outside the ring. Benoit the wrestler over Sid any day of the week.
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At one point I dug Sid, but once I witnessed how good Benoit was, I was hooked. The way I see if, Chris could last in a 20-30 minute bout and still look good. Sid, not so much. And don't even get me started on the Benoit vs Kevin Sullivan wars.

Benoit all the way here.
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